Does the coli still believe planes brought down the towers on 9/11?

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ok well if you aren't bringing anything into the thread except your ignorance and arrogance then just bounce. I've probably done more research than you on this. I don't need anything to be spoon-fed but you are bringing nothing to the conversation so like I said just shut the fukk up.
The amount of time you spend researching bad information really doesn't matter

What's the point of bringing info to people with their head in the sand?

Look at the jet fuel debate from a page ago.

The conspiracy nuts brought that up. I explained why and how that's wrong.

Someone then shows proof of how and why that's wrong.

Their response was to ignore it

The conspiracy nuts won't acknowledge info during an online argument

You need to go take an honest look at everything on your own and set your bias aside.

I 100% was all in on the 9/11 conspiracy until I read something that completely contradicted what I believed. That made me go examine the other side.

Anyone who honestly does that can't come to any conclusion other than the only possible conspiracy is that they allowed the attack to happen.

I don't even think that but I acknowledge that there's a very credible argument for it

You guys are too locked in to your belief and aren't gonna listen to or objectively look at anything I bring you
 
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You realize the building was filled with transformers and hundreds of things that are gonna blow the fukk up in a giant fire that's inside of a building that's in the process of having floors pancake on each other right ?

This is exactly what I've been saying. You're just repeating dumb shyt you've heard instead of taking any sort of serious look at it

i went back and watched loose change the other night and couldn’t stop laughing at them showing footage of people mentioning explosions. I’m like of course there are gonna be explosions with all the fire, heat and different types of electric components.
 

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i went back and watched loose change the other night and couldn’t stop laughing at them showing footage of people mentioning explosions. I’m like of course there are gonna be explosions with all the fire, heat and different types of electric components.
I forget what it was on but one of the loose change kids did a debate with someone from i think popular mechanics and got hilariously destroyed.
 

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Still haven't seen any explanation for
:jbhmm:The video of the "plane" hitting the pentagon and then disappearing after.
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Believe Cac:duck:brehs.
 

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If anybody on the coli lost someone in the 9/11 tragedy, my condolences.

One of the most fukked up events of all time.

I admit, i used to be idiotic and made light of the shyt, then I sat and thought "what if a loved one was on that plane, unsuspecting of what is about to happen?"

I havent watched videos of the planes crashing into those towers in a cpl yrs for that reason alone
 

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Danny Jowenko was an expert in controlled demolition from The Netherlands. He testified that the WTC7 collapse could only be due to controlled demolition.

Danny then died in a suspicious car crash in the village of Serooskerke, the Netherlands, on 16th July 2011.
 

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On a side note, listen to the sound at 1:57 when the 2nd plane hits the tower :merchant:



All the home video from that day are just unreal to watch. There’s another video of some girls recording right across from it when the second plane hit. They are going insane.
 

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as soon as the announcement came that the U.S was headed to Iraq it was obvious Bush & them were full of shyt....

if you believe the official story you're a complete moron....
This has always been at the top of the list for the stupidest shyt conspiracy ppl point to

So you're telling me the US government orchestrated and faked an attack on itself to go to war with Iraq

And to accomplish this they blamed it on Saudi Arabians ? One of their closest allies in the middle East?

Why the fukk wouldn't they say the hijackers were from Iraq.

How the fukk does that make any sense or seem like a good argument for a conspiracy ?


Look at the beating they took image wise for using 9/11 as a reason to invade Iraq

They're clever enough to pull off the biggest con in the history of the world but not clever enough to think "blaming this thing on Saudis to invade Iraq doesn't make sense " ?
 

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Jefferson Jackson said:
if you believe the official story you're a complete moron....

:sas1:

Conspiracy theories in general, and the "n% of people doubt the story" claims in particular, also appeal to a sense of rebellion in people.

As Wikipedia puts it, "a rebellion is, in the most general sense, a refusal to accept authority."

People don't want to be sheep who are patronized by authority and told what they have to do and how they have to think. People usually distrust authorities and many believe that authorities are selfish and abuse people for their own benefit. This is an extremely fertile ground for conspiracy theories.

This is so ingrained in people that a sentence like "the official story" has basically become a synonym for "a coverup/lie". Whenever "the official story" is mentioned, it immediately makes people think that it's some kind of coverup, something not true.

Conspiracy theorists are masters at abusing this psyhcological phenomenon for their advantage. They basically insinuate that "if you believe the official story then you are gullible because you are being lied to". They want to make it feel that doubting the original story is a sign of intelligence and logical thinking. However, believing a conspiracy theory usually shows, quite ironically, a great lack of logical thinking.

:sas2:

 

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mykey said:
Danny Jowenko was an expert in controlled demolition from The Netherlands. He testified that the WTC7 collapse could only be due to controlled demolition.

Danny was wrong......​

This report is authored by Brent Blanchard, Senior Editor for Implosionworld.com and Director of Field Operations at Protec Documentation Services, Inc. (www.protecservices.com), Rancocas, New Jersey. Additional contributions and research assistance was provided by Protec employees Earl Gardner, Gary McGeever, Michael Golden and John Golden.

Protec is one of the world’s most knowledgeable independent authorities on explosive demolition, having performed engineering studies, structure analysis, vibration/air overpressure monitoring and photographic services on well over 1,000 structure blasting events in more than 30 countries. These include the current world record-holders for largest, tallest and most buildings demolished with explosives. Protec regularly documents the work of more than 20 explosives contractors who perform structure blasting as a primary source of revenue (including extensive experience with every American company) as well as dozens more who blast structures in a part-time capacity.

Beyond the above, Protec possesses several additional types of data and experience that place the firm in a unique position to analyze and comment on this event:

  1. Protec technicians were operating portable field seismographs at several construction sites in Manhattan on 9/11. These seismographs recorded the events at Ground Zero, including the collapse of all three structures. These measurements, combined with seismic and airblast data recorded by other independent entities, provide an unfiltered, purely scientific view of each event.
  2. In the weeks following 9/11, several Protec building inspectors and staff photographers, including this author, were contracted by demolition teams to document the deconstruction and debris removal processes at Ground Zero. These processes included the mechanical pull-down of the remains of the U.S. Customs Building (WTC 6) and various other activities occurring simultaneously throughout the site. Our teams took thousands of photographs and personally examined untold amounts of debris, including countless structural elements from WTC 1 and 2. While these photographs and video recordings were not originally intended to specifically prove or disprove evidence of explosive demolition, they do provide substantial visual evidence that relates directly to this analysis and place us in a position to speak first-hand of conditions on site rather than relying on outside testimony or hearsay.
  3. Protec has been given access to thousands of personal photographs taken by laborers and site foremen employed by the demolition companies responsible for deconstructing the Ground Zero site. The companies include Tully Construction, D.H. Griffin Wrecking, Mazzocchi Wrecking, Yannuzzi Demolition, Gateway Demolition and Manafort Brothers. (Any other demolition company claiming to have worked on the Ground Zero site either worked under the supervision of one of these firms or is misrepresenting their participation.) In addition, Protec documented the only public discussion of the 9/11 clean-up attended by all of the demolition teams (National Demolition Association Convention, Orlando, Florida, 4/22/03). While the original intent of Protec’s two-hour video was to archive the unprecedented challenges faced by these teams, various questions and commentary from the speakers are relevant to this analysis.
  4. Because building implosions are often promoted as live news events, Protec’s offices are equipped to record multiple television broadcasts at all times. Our company’s archived recordings of original news broadcasts from the morning of 9/11 begin well prior to the collapse of the first tower and continue uninterrupted beyond the collapse of WTC 7. These original unedited recordings have allowed us to compare and scrutinize the collapse of all three structures free from any possibility of image tampering or modification. In addition, we have examined dozens of freelance and amateur video recordings incorporated into various documentary programs chronicling 9/11 and studied countless ground-based and aerial images captured by private, press and government-contracted photographers.
Protec and its employees have not been paid or hired by anyone to analyze this event, nor do we possess any political affiliations or contribute to any political party or individuals. We have undertaken this endeavor entirely at our own expense, with the singular goal of facilitating constructive dialog and providing a factual voice of reason to our friends and associates who were affected by the attack.
 
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