Does "infinity" exist?
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The reason why I considered Einstein a genius, is because to my knowledge, he was the first to make relativity a key. All mathematics is RELATIVE to your frame of reference. When you are walking past a moving car, in your frame of reference, you are moving, and the car is moving at the same time. But in the car driver's frame of reference, if he is going fast enough, you will appear to be stationary. and to the airplane, if it is going fast enough, the cars appear to be barely moving, although they may be driving at 100 mph. So all your mathematical formulas, limits, derivatives, etc, are all within your frame of reference. If the force and time vectors were to suddenly change within your frame of reference, your formulas would be useless, you would have to make new ones. Always remember everything is relative, and and understand that your understanding is only within your frame of reference, this is the key to nonlinear thinking, "thinking outside the box".
My theory
Infinity exists and at the same time doesn't.
You can say that's impossible, but the concept of infinity means impossible doesn't exist.
Let's say that it's impossible to pass through walls. Why? Because scientific evidence explains that right?
Well if infinity does truly exists then somewhere out there is a many value logic that we can. Ok i just confused my self. Sounded good in my head. This discussion is infinite.
Infinity exists and at the same time doesn't.
You can say that's impossible, but the concept of infinity means impossible doesn't exist.
Let's say that it's impossible to pass through walls. Why? Because scientific evidence explains that right?
Well if infinity does truly exists then somewhere out there is a many value logic that we can. Ok i just confused my self. Sounded good in my head. This discussion is infinite.
you can find infinity in anything you want. a number, any number, has an infinite amount of parts to it. there are infinitesimals in everything...particularly if you choose to believe in infinite regress.
but aside from that, if matter cannot be created or destroyed, then it has no end...and could be seen as having a infinite characteristic to it.
anything can be seen as infinity when speaking in terms of relativity, it just depends on what exactly you are comparing and what measurement or characteristic you are using to help define properties.
everything was created out of nothing, so technically there is an infinite nothingness as well as an infinite somethingness, as the infinite somethingness must move thru, or be encapsulated by 'something else', which must be nothing.
SumBlackguyz
Cacs Gonna Cac
but we've just about discovered the existence of the multiverse, breh. with all of that dark matter and dark energy node talk.
Breh, the universe is so big that the time it would take for light to reach one side to the other, it would take longer than the universe has existed.
The observable universe is 14 Trillion years old, but estimated at 93 trillion light years wide. so it would take 93 trillion years at light speed (286,000 miles per second) to go from one side to the distance it was 93 trillion years ago, and so on and so forth
so doesn't that rule out that light speed is the fastest speed possible? 
It all has to do with the foundation of math. When you start creating proofs, you need to base everything on something.
You have simplistic stuff like a + a = 2a. When you believe that and cannot refute it, then you can go on to prove infinity.
SafeForWork
Banned
Your stupidity is infinite.
It all has to do with the foundation of math. When you start creating proofs, you need to base everything on something.
You have simplistic stuff like a + a = 2a. When you believe that and cannot refute it, then you can go on to prove infinity.
You cannot get infinity from two finite quantities. One quantity must already be infinite. Infinity IMHO (I don't know for practical applications) is a relativity concept. Relative to your space time continuum vectors (how fast time and objects move in your frame of reference) decides what's can be approximated as infinity. In reality, infinity is just as conceptual as imaginary numbers. No one can prove infinity, you must have faith and accept it, the same like you must have faith and believe that Jesus walked on water. ( A lot of people don't realize parts of science require as much faith if not more than religion 
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but we've just about discovered the existence of the multiverse, breh. with all of that dark matter and dark energy node talk.
Breh, the universe is so big that the time it would take for light to reach one side to the other, it would take longer than the universe has existed.
The observable universe is 14 Trillion years old, but estimated at 93 trillion light years wide. so it would take 93 trillion years at light speed (286,000 miles per second) to go from one side to the distance it was 93 trillion years ago, and so on and so forth
so doesn't that rule out that light speed is the fastest speed possible?
In my astronomy class I asked my professor that very question. He responded that when the universe expanded, it expanded faster than the speed of light. But I was always told no objects with mass can travel faster than the speed of light
In my astronomy class I asked my professor that very question. He responded that when the universe expanded, it expanded faster than the speed of light. But I was always told no objects with mass can travel faster than the speed of light
possible explanation
when the universe first expanded, it wasnt just matter, but it was also anti matter simultaneously, so i would assume it expanded initially at at least twice light speed, perhaps with anti matter dispersing in one direction and matter dispersing in the other..
random sidenote
SumBlackguyz
Cacs Gonna Cac
I guess this is true since the majority of the universe is made of something we know nothing about; dark matter.In my astronomy class I asked my professor that very question. He responded that when the universe expanded, it expanded faster than the speed of light. But I was always told no objects with mass can travel faster than the speed of light
Mountain
All Star
No, because the "state" of infinity contradicts the foundation of reality as we know it.
Reality (or existence) is a conceptual framework derived from our capacity to perceive, which is finite. The state of infinity is infinite, therefore we cannot perceive infinity as we do not have the capacity to do so, hence why infinity can not exist to us.
Reality (or existence) is a conceptual framework derived from our capacity to perceive, which is finite. The state of infinity is infinite, therefore we cannot perceive infinity as we do not have the capacity to do so, hence why infinity can not exist to us.
theoretic
All Star
if we can't perceive it, then how did the concept arise in the first place
your argument is based in human arrogance/linguistics as well. its flawed. how can you, on one hand, say that we cannot perceive it, yet then, on the other hand, use underlying assumptions that are based on our perception when referencing the definition of it to use as justification for denying it's existence...there is just as much of a chance that infinity is improperly defined as there is the chance that we do not have the capacity to perceive it.
if you had amended your argument and said it contradicts the current establishment rationalism based on flawed understanding of the human mind, which then produces our perceptions of reality, then sure. but to outright say it contradicts reality itself, or that we are incapable, is short sighted and backwards.
one could just as easily say that the state of reality is infinite and infinity is reality itself.