Does Charles Barkley realize he was small?

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well that would work lovely for the offense... if the defender of that stretch big stays under to grab rebounds.. you will have a free player on the stretch ready to make open shots.

its a pick your poison situation.
you really think that perimeter defenders can't rebound?

why?

thats a big part of what makes the best defenders/rebounders as important as they are. you think kawhi doesn't rebound? PG?

You think LBJ got all those boards not playing perimeter D? Green?
 

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lets do some simple imagery here, if dray shoots the 3 and rodman is guarding him - who is closer to the rim?

:lupe::lupe::lupe:

and the warriors best line up is 4 out with green in the middle

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the other low post players.. who can then boxe rodman out...

this is all basic basketball plays...even curry would box rodman out.. you dont need to stop him.. just slow him down...

he runs over curry.. offensive foul...
 

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you really think that perimeter defenders can't rebound?

why?

thats a big part of what makes the best defenders/rebounders as important as they are. you think kawhi doesn't rebound? PG?

You think LBJ got all those boards not playing perimeter D? Green?
they wont grab 14 RPG.. and kahwhi plays 2-3.....
 

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so we're just down to being obtuse now? ok
i could throw it right back at you...

i dont think you understand the advantage of a stretch big..

its like you dont understand his purpose is to move the other big out of his positional advantage and to put them where they are useless.


i am starting to think this whole site is made of people with poor analyst skills who relies on hearsay to form an opinion..


i am not saying draymond is a better basketball player than rodman..

i am saying draymond is a match up problem to rodman as he takes him out of his position.
 

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i could throw it right back at you...

i dont think you understand the advantage of a stretch big..

its like you dont understand his purpose is to move the other big out of his positional advantage and to put them where they are useless.


i am starting to think this whole site is made of people with poor analyst skills who relies on hearsay to form an opinion..


i am not saying draymond is a better basketball player than rodman..

i am saying draymond is a match up problem to rodman as he takes him out of his position.
on defense

its got nothing to do with rebounding. nothing.

and you can tie the coming of small ball and stretch bigs to the league-wide transition away from offensive rebounding as well but you ain't even trying to hear shyt
 

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on defense

its got nothing to do with rebounding. nothing.

and you can tie the coming of small ball and stretch bigs to the league-wide transition away from offensive rebounding as well but you ain't even trying to hear shyt
yes it does.. he wont be physically in the paint...


he will only have acess to long rebounds and steph drives doesnt give long rebounds..

his rebounds would be down by a lot..

or.. he can leave draymond open to go grab rebounds...see how that works for him.
 

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on defense

its got nothing to do with rebounding. nothing.

and you can tie the coming of small ball and stretch bigs to the league-wide transition away from offensive rebounding as well but you ain't even trying to hear shyt
also the league is switching to stretch 4 because in two Olympics (or world tournaments, cant remember ) back to back they got embarrassed by the European stretch 4-5 offense.. which... and this is really redundant my friend....


would take their big out of the paint and force them to guard the big man on the perimeter or suffer the 3 ball..

when the american way failed.. they joined the euro basket way and switch to stretch 4 to regain the gold medals.
 

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its not like jordan did super great all those games man.. like everyone.. his FG% went way down..

heck.. for the knicks and piston, it WORKED...

piston beat jordan 2 times and knicks took them into game 7.. saved by that rebounding guy (grant?)

and yes it would all be flagrant..

but players are also not as stupid as to let someone walk in the paint like that either... the defensive schemes changed.


I feel you...
The premise of the point by Barkley is that players have more freedom to move because of no hand checking. Hard fouls have nothing to do with that. Jordan went to the line plenty back in the day. Barkley saying otherwise is revisionist history. Acting like fouls weren't called at all back then and shyt.



Half the players in the NBA today would think twice about driving in for a layup in an important game, if Oakley is down in the paint waiting to elbow you in your jugular - with no repercussions of a flagrant.
 

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stretch offenses have nothing to do with rebounding. like.... i don't even know what to tell dude. :heh:

this is like when people argue against the corner 3 or say that rondo is a good pg on a playoff team
 

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so your saying he would get the ball on the 3 line and woulndt shoot it?

Rodman would have no problem guarding Draymond on the perimeter. Rodman has guarded a myriad of players in his career from shooting guards to centers...he and Pippen are the most versatile defenders in NBA history. So no, Draymond shooting 3's wouldn't be a problem.
 

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stretch offenses have nothing to do with rebounding. like.... i don't even know what to tell dude. :heh:

this is like when people argue against the corner 3 or say that rondo is a good pg on a playoff team

you do understand.. when the stretch 4 is on offense.. rodman is on defense.. where he takes the BULK of his rebounds by having great position and timing...

you do understand.. if he has to chill between the 3 line and the free throw line he loses those advantage...right?


he either has to switch on the ball handler.. or stay on the stretch 4..

if he goes for the ball handler.. yes.. his rebounds stays the same but.. draymond will light him up with 3s..

i am not sure what's so hard to understand... and you better believe most teams chose to sacrifice rebound for defense on open shots.
 
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