Do you think the industry conspired against Dame Dash?

Was Dame Blackballed? (pause)

  • Yes

    Votes: 19 32.8%
  • No

    Votes: 39 67.2%

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Harry B

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They did.

And they've admitted it, lol.

People who aren't in the industry don't understand. It's all relationships. Dame spent the better part of his career protecting people, and supporting people against the machine, but never got the same treatment in return. He doesn't play "the game". And anyone who's ever done business in music, knows if you don’t play the game, people will try to get you out. A lot of people turned their backs on dude because they needed to feed their families. Not because he did anyone dirty.

I remember being in meetings at Def Jam where people were literally joking about how they could get him out of the label. We also have to remember who's running these companies. It's not people from around the way, or even people from the culture. Erick Sermon said it best, he said he learned back in the 90's not to ever piss the wrong people off in the music business, because "even if you're right, they'll make you look wrong and make you the bad guy". Erick said Dreamworks tried to treat him like Dame Dash because he was yelling at white executives. They told him he couldn't come to the office anymore. Lyor and Doug both admitted that they felt Dame should be "moved out" of the business. Stoute said in interviews that he felt the same. This is what they do. Industry Rule # 4080.
Lyor was not even with Universal/Def Jam when Dame left.
He still did the DD music group after Def Jam.

And screaming at your partners and bosses, not attending meetings, being a self-admitted a$$hole doesn't mean that someone is conspiring against you.
It just means that perhaps they don't want to work with you because of you behaving badly. It's like pulling up to work like Dame and getting fired, and saying that the company conspired against you.

Dame was with Def Jam for years not playing game, nobody got rid of him cause he (or Jay really) made them a lot of money. When Jay-z didn't wanna be associated with him, he still had Cam and Beans, but when Cam left Def Jam. He was over, since he didn't bring in any money.

The music industry, like all industries, tolerate shyt when you bring in a lot of money.
 

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I have zero sympathy for Dame

His artists were making commercial music. The objective for them was to make the most money possible. Not to teach community, not to uplift community, not to send some positive message, but to make the most money possible.

And he fukked that up completely.

Don't crawl back to the underground, claiming you were the real nikka all this time, when you were just another sellout who failed at that. You know like that Eminem song says: "cause opportunity comes once in a lifetime".
 

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There’s a way that u can do that without burning bridges
So the black ceo that’s representing the label that’s actually making the money round there is the one who need to pipe down and act accordingly. Who he think he is wanting the respect him and his company deserve and not going for that bs. Better shut up and dribble. :mjpls:
 

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So the black ceo that’s representing the label that’s actually making the money round there is the one who need to pipe down and act accordingly. Who he think he is wanting the respect him and his company deserve and not going for that bs. Better shut up and dribble. :mjpls:
He owned 16.6% of Roc-a-fella, Def Jam owned 50 %.
 

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I’ll never forget the MTV cribs episode where he said he never wore the same white tee twice and would toss them after a wear… that coupled with the collapses of RocaFella with his subsequent downfall just seemed like no big surprise.

Or when he brehsplained how a million dollars ain't shyt cause you gotta get a nice car and look out for everybody on your block and have $20 thousand bills to pay every day.



 
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The stories I hear he was a bully that treated everyone like shyt
 

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Dame set fire to every bridge he walked across. He don’t seem like the type to admit it or apologize either. I don’t know for certain, but it seems like Dame eliminated himself from being entertained.
 

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Jay didn’t jump ship tho. It’s like having a girl who you constantly disrespect, undermine, use her money to buy shyt without her permission, stuff y’all suppose to be partners on you take no input from her. Her family you openly disrespectful to them, but in reality she’s the one with the more secure job, stronger friendships and brighter future .

And then she leaves you and then you talk bout being betrayed and how she jumped ship lol
Choke beans bleek irv and so many others said dame was doing this!!!

taking money without telling the other 2

hiring and firing

signing artist without appoval


Jay seen ODB and was like hell no and guess what Dame signed him anyway and guess what it ended with RZA suing dame saying dirty was not stable

RZA and GZA are legit family members


look at it this way on the roster was

beans in and out of jail

the rest of state prop besides freeway and the young gunz the rest was in jail

Dame signed a dame spice girl!



how long was jay supposed to just take all that plus biggs dealing with weed before the break up when it was illegal


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