DO YOU THINK JAMES HARDEN WILL LEAVE OKC? OR IS HE ACTUALLY WORTH THE MAX CONTRACT?

[iamduval]

they won't have money to re-sign him. He wants to come to chicago, a bigger market, best PG in basketball, great coach, solid supporting case.

no hes not. no one wants to play with a crippled pg

 

[Lakers Offseason]

Keep Harden somehow. Dude is a money player and compliments Durant better than Westbrook. I swear Westbrook was trying to lose that game last night. Dude would not pass to Durant and just dribble possessions away.

 

[Malta]

shyt's comedy, dudes dont know nothing about basketball contracts; talking figures that dont even make financial sense coming off of a rookie contract. besides that i doubt he even gets anywhere near 4 years 60 more like 4 years 50 presti about to lock him up at the end of the season anyway. Ibaka can get traded all i care, his worth is overrated anyway i wouldn't be surprised if he himself realizes this and takes a 4 years 40 .

They aren't winning this series without Ibaka, and why would he take 4 years $40 million when DeAndre Jordan just got 4 years and $43 million, and Jordan got that contract before he became a fulltime starter.


Presti can offer Harden an extra year over anyone else, that isn't the point of all this, it's wondering if the Thunder can keep all 4 of their best players together.

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

As long as the owner is cool with it, they should just go into the luxury. That core group should be able to make it to the finals as long as they're together. Doesn't really matter who else is on that squad.

 

[Primetime21]

Whoever gives Harden a max contract assures their franchise ceiling is the Hawks

 

[Loose]

They aren't winning this series without Ibaka, and why would he take 4 years $40 million when DeAndre Jordan just got 4 years and $43 million, and Jordan got that contract before he became a fulltime starter.


Presti can offer Harden an extra year over anyone else, that isn't the point of all this, it's wondering if the Thunder can keep all 4 of their best players together.

No it's not read the thread title, it says nothing about ibaka or his future has no indication of ibaka's name at all. DJ got that contract because of the warriors bidding on him , that wasn't the initial offer from the clippers.

As long as the owner is cool with it, they should just go into the luxury. That core group should be able to make it to the finals as long as they're together. Doesn't really matter who else is on that squad.

luxury for repeat offender rise quickly and can damn near kill a franchise not worth it. you keep your core three and rotate around them you can actually get some great pieces for ibaka if he's unwillingly to sign.

 

[Malta]

As long as the owner is cool with it, they should just go into the luxury. That core group should be able to make it to the finals as long as they're together.

The luxury is a lot more serious now.


Before teams paid dollar for dollar over the luxury, now it increases in increments based on just how much you're over, or if you're a repeat offender.

If the new system were in place, the Lakers would be paying $65 million in tax

 

[Malta]

No it's not read the thread title, it says nothing about ibaka or his future has no indication of ibaka's name at all. DJ got that contract because of the warriors bidding on him , that wasn't the initial offer from the clippers.

Harden and Ibaka are directly linked though, sign one and you have to wonder about if they will sign the other.


Fam, teams are going to bid on Ibaka and Harden if they don't sign extensions. Ibaka has more value than Jordan and is now proving himself in the playoffs, if there's one thing old white men love more than money, it's athletic 6"10 nikkas that block shots and can make them more money, that is their second weakness.

 

[YBE]

20 million - KD
14 million - Russy
14 million - Harden (can't they use Larry Bird rights here? )
9 or 10 million - Ibaka
rest for the bench

Thabo can stay. Perkins has to go though.

i think that makes sense

 

[Malta]

20 million - KD
14 million - Russy
14 million - Harden (can't they use Larry Bird rights here? )
9 or 10 million - Ibaka
rest for the bench

Thabo can stay. Perkins has to go though.

i think that makes sense

For the record, I think they'll re-sign Harden to an extension, Im not as sure about Ibaka.


And, the Bird rights allow you to match an offer from another team even if you're over the cap.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Is he worth a max deal? No.
Will he get a max deal? Yes.
Will he get it in OKC? Yes.

 

[Primetime21]

Is he worth a max deal? No.
Will he get a max deal? Yes.
Will he get it in OKC? Yes.

Say OKC doesn't win the championship this year, how do you justify giving someone a max deal coming off the bench who wasnt a championship winning piece.

 

[Malta]

Say OKC doesn't win the championship this year, how do you justify giving someone a max deal coming off the bench who wasnt a championship winning piece.

You justify it this way, someone else will give him the contract.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Say OKC doesn't win the championship this year, how do you justify giving someone a max deal coming off the bench who wasnt a championship winning piece.

their window of opportunity doesn't close this year. A re-signed Harden = a legit 4 year window to win it all before Durant is due for a new deal again

 

[TheNig]

He plays a thin position, and somebody out there will offer him max or very close to it because of that. It could be a Joe Johnson situation all over again, except unlike the Suns the Thunder know just how good Harden is and want to keep him but might not be able to afford it.

i would never give a guy who can only go one direction (left) a max contract. just aint worth it.