Do You Consider Yourself An Animal?

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But as human beings we are clearly several degrees above all other animals in intelligence.

For example, how many dolphins are sittin at home on the intanets right now discussing whether dolphins are animals or not?

So if I stranded you on a desert island today and gave you all the supplies to create a computer would you be able to? Stop standing upon the accomplishments of a few incredible people in human history as some sort of marker of superiority. Look at the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon or Papau New Guinea. These people are running around jungles, barely clothed, living no different than chimps or gorillas. Are they not human?

Don't mistake a fluke in genetics with great degrees in intelligence. We as humans have only accomplished what we've accomplished based on two lucky mutations. Our ability to speak and our ability to have an opposable thumb that allows us to grasp tools. If those two ability where taken away and our brains still stayed the same size, there would be no internet or any other invention. Dolphins have all the requisite intelligence to be a technology creating species. Their only problem is they have phins instead of fingers.

I think we as a species should show some humility because our place in the animal kingdom is only the way it is because of luck. There was no biological imperative for speech or an opposable thumb. It was a fluke. And because of that fluke we had a few in our species who have been able to accomplish great feats that have been able to drag the rest of us with them. I am intelligent enough to know that without those who came before us, we would still be living in the same predicament as every other animal on earth.

Ultimately my point is there is nothing special about the VAST MAJORITY of humans. We are just lucky that the few geniuses among us have the capability to transmit their thoughts into our brains and ultimately create those inventions that move us forward as a species. Most humans left to their own devices would be living lives no different than chimps or gorillas. Look at most of human history and the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and Papau New Guniea as proof.
 

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So if I stranded you on a desert island today and gave you all the supplies to create a computer would you be able to? Stop standing upon the accomplishments of a few incredible people in human history as some sort of marker of superiority. Look at the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon or Papau New Guinea. These people are running around jungles, barely clothed, living no different than chimps or gorillas. Are they not human?

Don't mistake a fluke in genetics with great degrees in intelligence. We as humans have only accomplished what we've accomplished based on two lucky mutations. Our ability to speak and our ability to have an opposable thumb that allows us to grasp tools. If those two ability where taken away and our brains still stayed the same size, there would be no internet or any other invention. Dolphins have all the requisite intelligence to be a technology creating species. Their only problem is they have phins instead of fingers.

I think we as a species should show some humility because our place in the animal kingdom is only the way it is because of luck. There was no biological imperative for speech or an opposable thumb. It was a fluke. And because of that fluke we had a few in our species who have been able to accomplish great feats that have been able to drag the rest of us with them. I am intelligent enough to know that without those who came before us, we would still be living in the same predicament as every other animal on earth.

All primates have opposable thumbs. Speech is a part of intelligence. So you agree? I'm confused.

You're a fool if you disagree that man runs this bytch. :heh:

Your whole post is just a bunch of reasons to be grateful but usually people who point these reasons out are often the least grateful for them.
 

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Science falters when observing the including. In the experiments necessary to classify and label an object, the scientist cannot be included in the results.
It doesn't matter what you think...Scientifically speaking, humans are animals...

Just because we can classify, label, imagine, entertain or create doesn't mean we are beyond being animals...

Those behaviours are just the human way of surviving everyday just to get laid...However, we have the ability to change our environment, and as we change our environment, our environment also changes our behaviours...

But that happens with all living organisms...Even bacteria...

A lot of the stuff we humans do, I believe is because of all the excess functions that our larger brains have...

We are not better than non-human animals simply for the fact that the majority of humans on this planet live under sub-standard conditions, despite the amount resources we have...

You will be hard pressed to find a wolf pack with starving members, when there is a lot of deer to be hunted and killed...

So, I personally wouldn't even call human behaviour as "refined animal behaviours" because "refined" implies that we should be making things "better," and yet, we humans are so wasteful...

We are NOT efficient...
 

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:why: so are u sayin u a plant?

its either plant, animal, or fungii my nikka......there isn't any other categories

we need to eat food to survive like every other animal.....we take shyts and piss everyday like every other animal.....we sleep for 6-8 hrs every night like every other animal........we fukk each other to reproduce like every other animal

in the grand scheme of things, we probably spend most of our lives doing the same exact shyt as a dog......the only reason we think we are any different is because we've deluded ourselves into thinking so........don't mistake the accomplishments of a few onto the rest of humanity.......we have had a few in our species who have been able to ovecome their animal instincts to accomplish great things in science and technology to move the species forward......but the VAST MAJORITY of humans are no different than any other animals.......we just have opposable thumbs that allow us to grasp things more easily.......thats it



nah i dont believe that though, i wouldnt even use sleep eating sex and shytting to gauge what is and what isnt since we obviously share those traits and these traits arent even limited to animals or humans

dont mistake the accomplishments of few? what you think 100 or so scientists for the past couple centuries are the only people who are accomplished lol :heh: so limited in your views friend. with what you are giving me id assume you dont believe in god anyway though so i wont get into that, but id for surely say we live in the kingdom of man if anything not the animal kingdom, a few tribes who live in the wild doesnt mean they arent moar advanced than filthy beasts either because lets face it, if they were they would have all been died out since humans are not the most physically strong or dynamic. we survive on will and make the things that crawl the earth our slaves because we can. animals in the wild dont even take in other animals they could easily dominate, why? because they dont know how or just see it as another meal or both. when a human touches bird eggs before they hatch and after, then try to put the newly borns back in the nest the parent rejects them and might possibly kill them. we are above lame shyt like that
 
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I do consider myself an animal, however I also consider myself to be a superior animal.
 

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nah i dont believe that though, i wouldnt even use sleep eating sex and shytting to gauge what is and what isnt since we obviously share those traits and these traits arent even limited to animals

It's not a matter of belief. Everything humans do fits within the animal sphere. Even our intelligence is a function of biological matter and genes, not religious or technological inspiration. We are in fact a super intelligent type of primate.

dont mistake the accomplishments of few? what you think 100 or so scientists for the past couple centuries are the only people who are accomplished lol :heh: so limited in your views friend. with what you are giving me id assume you dont believe in god anyway though so i wont get into that, but id for surely say we live in the kingdom of man if anything not the animal kingdom, a few tribes who live in the wild doesnt mean they arent moar advanced than filthy beasts either because lets face it, if they were they would have all been died out since humans are not the most physically strong or dynamic. we survive on will and make the things that crawl the earth our slaves because we can. other animals in the wild dont even take in other animals they could easily dominate, why? because they dont know how or just see it as another meal or both. when a human touches bird eggs before they hatch and after, then try to put the newly borns back in the nest the parent rejects them and might possibly kill them. we are above lame shyt like that

I don't believe in god either but I think his best point is that most humans spend a significant percentage of their time performing a great number of tasks which bear resemblance to what any other mammal does. Before the advent of advanced technology, which now allows humans to focus their energy on more intellectual endeavors, humanity spent the vast majority of its time doing exactly as all animals do today: looking for food, consuming food, excreting waste, playing and reproducing. The difference-maker between humans and other animals is specialized evolution and intelligence.
 
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All primates have opposable thumbs. Speech is a part of intelligence. So you agree? I'm confused.

You're a fool if you disagree that man runs this bytch. :heh:

Your whole post is just a bunch of reasons to be grateful but usually people who point these reasons out are often the least grateful for them.

without speech or something similar knowledge can't be transferred......language is considered one of the greatest difference makers in human history

my point is that you seem to be beating your chest about something that you didn't accomplish.......man only runs this bytch cause we've had a few members of our species that have been able to make incredible discoveries in science and technology to move the species forward

if you or I were stranded on an island with other animals, we would not be much better off......in fact given how modern techonology insulates us, we would probably not survive very long...........there are countless uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and Papua New Guinea who are similarly helpless......they live no different than most animals

and for most of human history we lived under the same pressures as every other animals

don't confuse the recent swell of science and techonology in modern society with inherent superiority of our entire species

without speech we would still be living in jungles and caves naked
 

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nah i dont believe that though, i wouldnt even use sleep eating sex and shytting to gauge what is and what isnt since we obviously share those traits and these traits arent even limited to animals or humans

dont mistake the accomplishments of few? what you think 100 or so scientists for the past couple centuries are the only people who are accomplished lol :heh: so limited in your views friend. with what you are giving me id assume you dont believe in god anyway though so i wont get into that, but id for surely say we live in the kingdom of man if anything not the animal kingdom, a few tribes who live in the wild doesnt mean they arent moar advanced than filthy beasts either because lets face it, if they were they would have all been died out since humans are not the most physically strong or dynamic. we survive on will and make the things that crawl the earth our slaves because we can. animals in the wild dont even take in other animals they could easily dominate, why? because they dont know how or just see it as another meal or both. when a human touches bird eggs before they hatch and after, then try to put the newly borns back in the nest the parent rejects them and might possibly kill them. we are above lame shyt like that
dont be too full of ourselves. if or when this economy is go be taken from under us you'll see a very ugly side of mankind. we just pretend to be nice cause of the laws we use to govern ourselves. *man's behavior can be worse than animals*. we already have animals amongst us. and when someone does some wacked out sh1t we say they're acting like animals.

white folks were good ppl in the 80s and 90s when they were rich. now that white folks are broke they aint nice anymore.
 
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nah i dont believe that though, i wouldnt even use sleep eating sex and shytting to gauge what is and what isnt since we obviously share those traits and these traits arent even limited to animals or humans

dont mistake the accomplishments of few? what you think 100 or so scientists for the past couple centuries are the only people who are accomplished lol :heh: so limited in your views friend. with what you are giving me id assume you dont believe in god anyway though so i wont get into that, but id for surely say we live in the kingdom of man if anything not the animal kingdom, a few tribes who live in the wild doesnt mean they arent moar advanced than filthy beasts either because lets face it, if they were they would have all been died out since humans are not the most physically strong or dynamic. we survive on will and make the things that crawl the earth our slaves because we can. animals in the wild dont even take in other animals they could easily dominate, why? because they dont know how or just see it as another meal or both. when a human touches bird eggs before they hatch and after, then try to put the newly borns back in the nest the parent rejects them and might possibly kill them. we are above lame shyt like that

why am I not surprised? you religious morons are the only ones who believe in this superiority over other animals. well hate it break it to you but for most of human history we were no different. in fact we have common descent with those same animals. science and evolution has proven the religous fantasy of special design to be false. we are evolved animals like every other creature on earth. no evidence of a creator. period

for most of human history (remember humans have been around for 200,000 years and modern technology only the last 200 years), we lived no different than the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon.....I don't think you understand how much more closesly their lives are to chimps and gorillas than us humans in the modern world.......those people only eat, sleep, shyt, and fukk.......just like animals......they don't do any of that other shyt you do everyday
 

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It's not a matter of belief. Everything humans do fits within the animal sphere. Even our intelligence is a function of biological matter and genes, not religious or technological inspiration. We are in fact a super intelligent type of primate.



I don't believe in god either but I think his point is that most humans spend a significant percentage of their time performing a great number of tasks which bear resemblance to what any other mammal does. Before the advent of advanced technology, which now allows humans to focus on their intellectual endeavors, humanity spent the vast majority of its time doing exactly as all animals do today: looking for food, consuming food, excreting waste, playing and reproducing. The difference-maker between humans and other animals is evolution.



well we are just going to have to agree to disagree on that bolded because i dont think that is true and you do :manny:.

every orgasnims "tasks" involves finding a place it can live and breed and eat so again i wouldnt classify that as strictly animal or human. before technology there was humans who focused on intellectual endeavors..how else did technology come into existance? why is it humans have been around for some of the shortest periods of time according to science but are the most advanced? im sure a few scientific heads here and irl credit it to a luck of the draw sort of thing of evolution but to me i just dont see it that way
 

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without speech or something similar knowledge can't be transferred......language is considered one of the greatest difference makers in human history

my point is that you seem to be beating your chest about something that you didn't accomplish.......man only runs this bytch cause we've had a few members of our species that have been able to make incredible discoveries in science and technology to move the species forward

if you or I were stranded on an island with other animals, we would not be much better off......in fact given how modern techonology insulates us, we would probably not survive very long...........there are countless uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and Papua New Guinea who are similarly helpless......they live no different than most animals

and for most of human history we lived under the same pressures as every other animals

don't confuse the recent swell of science and techonology in modern society with inherent superiority of our entire species

without speech we would still be living in jungles and caves naked

When did I say I accomplished anything? I never said I was responsible for mankind's intelligence. Regardless, what does that matter? The fact that we're more intelligent than all other animals is still true.

And I disagree that we wouldn't be better off than animals on an island. After all, that's essentially what we were, no? Man uses intelligence to bend other animals to his will. This is why we are able to put elephants and tigers in zoos. Obviously not by brute strength. But by intelligence.

Prey may evade it's predator with intelligence, but it takes a much higher degree of intelligence for that prey to actually become the predator, itself. So while a mouse may escape a hawk, that mouse is never going to flip the script and capture the hawk, clip it's wings and claws, put it in a cage and call it a pet.

Just because you choose not to use your gifts, doesn't mean you don't possess them.
 

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dont be too full of ourselves. if or when this economy is go be taken from under us you'll see a very ugly side of mankind. we just pretend to be nice cause of the laws we use to govern ourselves. *man's behavior can be worse than animals*. we already have animals amongst us. and when someone does some wacked out sh1t we say they're acting like animals.

white folks were good ppl in the 80s and 90s when they were rich. now that white folks are broke they aint nice anymore.


you got me laughin out loud with this bolded quote though for so many off topic reasons friend


sure there are pretenders though but there are also those who aren't, i think man being able to be worse than animals is also a testemant of our difference, but you do say they're acting like animals though, as in without generally accepted moral behavior and lacking of common sense





why am I not surprised? you religious morons are the only ones who believe in this superiority over other animals. well hate it break it to you but for most of human history we were no different. in fact we have common descent with those same animals. science and evolution has proven the religous fantasy of special design to be false. we are evolved animals like every other creature on earth. no evidence of a creator. period

for most of human history (remember humans have been around for 200,000 years and modern technology only the last 200 years), we lived no different than the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon.....I don't think you understand how much more closesly their lives are to chimps and gorillas than us humans in the modern world.......those people only eat, sleep, shyt, and fukk.......just like animals......they don't do any of that other shyt you do everyday


creation without a creator is a fallacy

you dont live with them so you wouldnt know what they do, and as basic as you make them out to be im sure you couldnt last a day in their enviroments because there is more to it than that
 
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So if I stranded you on a desert island today and gave you all the supplies to create a computer would you be able to? Stop standing upon the accomplishments of a few incredible people in human history as some sort of marker of superiority. Look at the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon or Papau New Guinea. These people are running around jungles, barely clothed, living no different than chimps or gorillas. Are they not human?

Don't mistake a fluke in genetics with great degrees in intelligence. We as humans have only accomplished what we've accomplished based on two lucky mutations. Our ability to speak and our ability to have an opposable thumb that allows us to grasp tools. If those two ability where taken away and our brains still stayed the same size, there would be no internet or any other invention. Dolphins have all the requisite intelligence to be a technology creating species. Their only problem is they have phins instead of fingers.

I think we as a species should show some humility because our place in the animal kingdom is only the way it is because of luck. There was no biological imperative for speech or an opposable thumb. It was a fluke. And because of that fluke we had a few in our species who have been able to accomplish great feats that have been able to drag the rest of us with them. I am intelligent enough to know that without those who came before us, we would still be living in the same predicament as every other animal on earth.

Ultimately my point is there is nothing special about the VAST MAJORITY of humans. We are just lucky that the few geniuses among us have the capability to transmit their thoughts into our brains and ultimately create those inventions that move us forward as a species. Most humans left to their own devices would be living lives no different than chimps or gorillas. Look at most of human history and the uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and Papau New Guniea as proof.

Dude you reaching like a motherfukker
 
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