Do you believe? Ret. US Army SGT: US Govt. Has Over 50 Species Of Aliens Cataloged, Wanted To Testify Before Congress:

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I seen 3 moving in formation like 3 years ago. They appear almost the same size as the stars but dissapeared right in front of my eyes. and appear



Well the USA been more open compared to other countries. Mexico America are the only ones that report to the news now. China and Russia aint saying shyt



Yeah dude legit he is actually in the Smithsonian museum and probably the most legit person to ever come out.

I saw the 3 in formation in croatia around 2010
 

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I could believe this. Low key our technology has gone through huge leaps since the 60's to where the pre 60's world is almost unrecognizable. I don't think that is coincidence or purely the result of human ingenuity.


There isn't any single "huge leap" in technology that isn't easily explained by the science that predated it for decades. In fact the pace of advancement in the hard sciences over the last 60 years is downright boring.

Take for instance the advancement of the semiconductor, which is the single most important piece of technology which enables our modern world. Development in the field was fairly consistent since WW2 (where like most wars the drastic needs of the moment spurred more desperate work towards new technologies) up through the late 1960s. While breakthroughs and improvements have continued to be made continuously since then, for the most part the ground-breaking physics breakthroughs that enabled the computer age had already been made before 1970 and everything after that was just a whole lot of experimentation and application.

 

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Humans are arrogant as fukk to believe they are the ONLY forms of intelligent life in this vast universe.

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That's so fascinating to me and is pretty hard to grasp which mask it even more amazing.

I'm not sure why posters are so skeptical when it comes to life on other planets, I find it very hard to believe that earth is the only planet with intelligent life given how vast the universe is.
Is it really a stretch to imagine other forms of intelligent life exist in a vast largely uncharted universe?


The question isn't whether other forms of life exist. It's about whether they have crossed thousands or millions of light years (completely impossible by all known physics) in order to reach our planet and then somehow appear to millions of people yet while having actual proof appear to not a single person who can show it to others.

There could be intelligent life all over the universe, just so fukking far apart that they never have a chance in hell of visiting each other. I mean look at us - we just invented spaceflight 60 years ago and yet we look like we're on the verge of destroying our own civilization. Why do we think ANY intelligence civilization will keep advancing forever and not just destroy itself within a few centuries? What evidence is there that any intelligent beings will expand beyond their own solar system, let alone their own galaxy?
 

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The government just did a conference on ufo’s, I think it’s more real than fake
Well your government believes UFO’s are real and that’s why congress is making legislation to get all the info out.



By "the government" did you actually mean, "a few members of Congress"? And to be clear, we're talking the same body of people which has members who believe in White Genocide, Jewish Space Lasers, and paying for child prostitutes on Venmo?

Having a few horribly ignorant senators saying they want to look into something doesn't tell us jack shyt. They are as ignorant on this as they are on most topics. 90% of their hype is based off the same grainy-ass videos with easy explanations that the rest of us have seen.

Also, if you want to cite a source use a better one than the "Liberation Times".



You putting your standards on light travel on them who to say that their travel capabilities across distance is the same for them. I mean the military release footage of a flying object going from 20k to below sea level in less than 1 second.

There is not any footage that shows this, at all. Just some people who do a really bad job of understanding perspective when looking at poor-resolution video.
 

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yall still believe in UFOs even though every mofo has a camera in their pockets these days and still no one has shown a clear UFO video that didn't look it was recorded on a potato.


For the exact same reason that Bigfoot sightings have decreased the more people have carried high-quality cameras into the forest - if think you saw something indeterminate and don't have a camera, then you can believe you saw it but might not tell anyone. If you think you saw something indeterminate and take a grainy-ass terrible photo or video, then you might be confident enough to show your shytty video to other people and try to convince them you saw something weird. But if you see something indeterminate and take a GREAT photo or video.....then you look at the photo/video and see it's just some normal ass shyt.

We get better and better and better technology, yet still keep producing the SAME shytty-ass images of Bigfoot. The SAME shytty-ass images of UFOs. Because whenever the photos/video actually come out well, the object looks normal as fukk and its not a story.


I mean some random guy off the street can get footage like this with a personal camera, but the the entire planet's global private, commercial, scientific, and military resources still can't get a picture of an alien craft that doesn't look like it could have been a screenshot of PONG?

220px-Pong_Game_Test2.gif






And for those who think it's a government conspiracy to hide "the good images" or "the real craft" or "the alien bodies", what kind of magical government conspiracy somehow covers the ENTIRE planet with NO exceptions over ALL time? For example:

1. Why hasn't a single guy with a nice camera like the one in that video captured a decent photo? Millions of high-zoom cameras with 4k capability are distributed across the world, and yet not ONE person has been in position at the right time? Why people with shytty-ass low-capacity cameras are always right in position?

2. Scientists and engineers use extremely precise sensory equipment all over the world to example all sorts of phenomena in the skies. Why the fukk is not a single scientist anywhere in the world getting definitive data showing alien spacecraft, but a few uneducated pilots fukking around keep getting the info on rudimentary-ass on-board sensory systems?

3. How would "the government" be able to reach every crashed spacecraft anywhere in the world before anyone else had found it and publicized it? Like if it happened today that shyt would be all over social media before the feds got within 100 miles of it, and that's just in the USA - that shyt could crash anywhere. And if the crash happened in the days before radar was common, then how would the government even know about it until word of mouth reached them, meaning thousands and thousands of people would already know about be all over that shyt.

4. Why hasn't a random person ever dug up shyt that crashed before? Weren't alien spacecraft crashing on Earth throughout its history? So shouldn't their remains be everywhere?
 

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The question isn't whether other forms of life exist. It's about whether they have crossed thousands or millions of light years (completely impossible by all  known physics) in order to reach our planet and then somehow appear to millions of people yet while having actual proof appear to not a single person who can show it to others.

There could be intelligent life all over the universe, just so fukking far apart that they never have a chance in hell of visiting each other. I mean look at us - we just invented spaceflight 60 years ago and yet we look like we're on the verge of destroying our own civilization. Why do we think ANY intelligence civilization will keep advancing forever and not just destroy itself within a few centuries? What evidence is there that any intelligent beings will expand beyond their own solar system, let alone their own galaxy?
Keyword bolded. So many variables we may be oblivious to. Aside from advanced technology, there is always the possibility of UNIQUE technology, designed of minerals and/or elements we could only dream of that only exists in some far out galaxy in the bumblefukk nebula a billion lightyears west of planet namek. Wormholes, time and space bending psychic waves...hell these "ufo's themselves could be some floating Godlike organic entity that evolved to swim through the fabric of space time like an eel floating in the ocean.

The possibilities are inconceivably endless. And as the saying goes, the absence of evidence isnt the evidence of absence. But personally i wouldnt presume to believe these sightings couldnt possibly just be some top secret man made phenomena, i was just making an informed speculation that life of any kind is most likely not unique to this floating blue marble we call home. :manny:


Just seems like more human hubris to me.
 
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no, you're actually the one that is behind here, considering I actually acknowledged your attempt at making the distinction lol hence me saying the alternative perspective is so low probability based upon common sense, that this need for the "hard evidence" take is relatively asinine. especially considering attaining hard evidence is currently beyond our technological grasp.

it's borderline in "we don't truly know if Jesus is the son of god" territory lol since there's no "hard evidence" to refute it.

you didn't really absorb the concept that I just think you statement was alittle silly. you aren't going to get 'hard evidence' before you die. similar to how you won't get hard evidence of Jesus not being the son of god before you die.

it's also similar to saying "there's a high probability that there's undiscovered species in the Marianas trench, or there's a high probability that there is other undiscovered galaxies but I need hard evidence first." asinine. Different than someone saying "I need evidence that there is multiple universes" which would be fair, because there isn't any indication of ridiculously high mathematical probability, with very little to observe as a derivative .

it's very annoying when you predict that someone is going to assume you didn't understand their post, so you convey that you did through wording, and they still come back with the same predicted response lol

This is a lot of word salad. First, I don't believe there is hard evidence to support Jesus Christ as the son of God existing, and therefore I don't believe it. Just like I don't believe Zeus, or Bast or whoever else existed. It's folk tales told by people thousands of years ago to try to explain their existence and give it meaning.

Secondly, I can believe there is undiscovered life in the Mariana's trench or undiscovered galaxies because we continue to discover deep sea life, and we have the technology to have captured thousands of galaxies on film. Even then, hard evidence of life there, and undiscovered galaxies is needed to confirm the high probability of these things. To date, we have had exactly zero hard evidence of life elsewhere in the universe. All we've had is testimonials from others, and grainy footage of UFOs, with no ability to examine them up close to see exactly what they are. It all boils down to "I want to believe this to be true, therefore it is". I need more than that to reach a final, satisfactory determination even if, once again, I think it's probable that life exists elsewhere. You, of course, are entitled to believe whatever you like.

You keep saying things like asinine and stupid to rebut points, which I haven't done to you despite the fact that I think your arguments are asinine. You can disagree if you like, but using these out of place descriptors here indicate an emotional response, as opposed to a clinical one. It denotes being offended that I would dare challenge the idea that life existing elsewhere in the universe has so far had no hard evidence to support it, which is odd because, well, there isn't any yet. A body or a ship seems pretty reasonable. *shrug*
 
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Keyword bolded. So many variables we may be oblivious to. Aside from advanced technology, there is always the possibility of UNIQUE technology, designed of minerals and/or elements we could only dream of that only exists in some far out galaxy in the bumblefukk nebula a billion lightyears west of planet namek. Wormholes, time and space bending psychic waves...hell these "ufo's themselves could be some floating Godlike organic entity that evolved to swim through the fabric of space time like an eel floating in the ocean.

I differentiate between limitations in science and limitations in technology. The issue with FTL travel is not a technological problem but a problem with fundamental reality. As a teen I used to imagine all sorts of amazing scenarios with wormholes and such, but as our understanding of the universe has advanced it has become more and more apparent that the universe is basically flat (in a 3D sense), and thus shortcuts are not just undiscovered but theoretically impossible.




The possibilities are inconceivably endless. And as the saying goes, the absence of evidence isnt the evidence of absence. But personally i wouldnt presume to believe these sightings couldnt possibly just be some top secret man made phenomena, i was just making an informed speculation that life of any kind is most likely not unique to this floating blue marble we call home. :manny:


Just seems like more human hubris to me.

On the basic level I agree that life almost certainly exists on other planets and quite likely has advanced to our level of intelligence and greater on some of them. I dispute whether we can be certain at all that such civilizations last without imploding on themselves, or ever find a way to travel to distant stars.



And of course when you move from "possibility" to "evidence", I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that wasn't far more easily explained by natural Earth-based shyt than by invoking aliens.
 

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For the exact same reason that Bigfoot sightings have decreased the more people have carried high-quality cameras into the forest - if think you saw something indeterminate and don't have a camera, then you can believe you saw it but might not tell anyone. If you think you saw something indeterminate and take a grainy-ass terrible photo or video, then you might be confident enough to show your shytty video to other people and try to convince them you saw something weird. But if you see something indeterminate and take a GREAT photo or video.....then you look at the photo/video and see it's just some normal ass shyt.

We get better and better and better technology, yet still keep producing the SAME shytty-ass images of Bigfoot. The SAME shytty-ass images of UFOs. Because whenever the photos/video actually come out well, the object looks normal as fukk and its not a story.


I mean some random guy off the street can get footage like this with a personal camera, but the the entire planet's global private, commercial, scientific, and military resources still can't get a picture of an alien craft that doesn't look like it could have been a screenshot of PONG?

220px-Pong_Game_Test2.gif






And for those who think it's a government conspiracy to hide "the good images" or "the real craft" or "the alien bodies", what kind of magical government conspiracy somehow covers the ENTIRE planet with NO exceptions over ALL time? For example:

1. Why hasn't a single guy with a nice camera like the one in that video captured a decent photo? Millions of high-zoom cameras with 4k capability are distributed across the world, and yet not ONE person has been in position at the right time? Why people with shytty-ass low-capacity cameras are always right in position?

2. Scientists and engineers use extremely precise sensory equipment all over the world to example all sorts of phenomena in the skies. Why the fukk is not a single scientist anywhere in the world getting definitive data showing alien spacecraft, but a few uneducated pilots fukking around keep getting the info on rudimentary-ass on-board sensory systems?

3. How would "the government" be able to reach every crashed spacecraft anywhere in the world before anyone else had found it and publicized it? Like if it happened today that shyt would be all over social media before the feds got within 100 miles of it, and that's just in the USA - that shyt could crash anywhere. And if the crash happened in the days before radar was common, then how would the government even know about it until word of mouth reached them, meaning thousands and thousands of people would already know about be all over that shyt.

4. Why hasn't a random person ever dug up shyt that crashed before? Weren't alien spacecraft crashing on Earth throughout its history? So shouldn't their remains be everywhere?


There are actual videos but high def videos will be owned by the government because they are in the air and control the bases that these ufos monitor.

I mean it's videos of UFOs creating crop circles like this:


There is even one that is not on YouTube and I can't find it with a black helicopter flowing over one the orbs. Dude it's a lot out here.

You have to also think that the reason it's convert around the entire world is due to religion bro. Religion is the main reason why this won't be known for a while. I don't think people are ready yet.

Found the helicopter ufo video

 

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There are actual videos but high def videos will be owned by the government because they are in the air and control the bases that these ufos monitor.

I mean it's videos of UFOs creating crop circles like this:


There is even one that is not on YouTube and I can't find it with a black helicopter flowing over one the orbs. Dude it's a lot out here.

You have to also think that the reason it's convert around the entire world is due to religion bro. Religion is the main reason why this won't be known for a while. I don't think people are ready yet.

Found the helicopter ufo video


if you Google john wabe - crop circles. that shyt fake. theres interviews and he made a video himself saying he faked it.

crop circles are funny, alien brehs travel lightyears, just to make shapes in some grass :dead:

i'm not anti-alien or anything, i just find crop circles to be comedy

but i guess the government coulda paid a fake john wabe to confess to making a fake video :manny:
 

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I differentiate between limitations in science and limitations in technology. The issue with FTL travel is not a technological problem but a problem with fundamental reality. As a teen I used to imagine all sorts of amazing scenarios with wormholes and such, but as our understanding of the universe has advanced it has become more and more apparent that the universe is basically flat (in a 3D sense), and thus shortcuts are not just undiscovered but theoretically impossible.






On the basic level I agree that life almost certainly exists on other planets and quite likely has advanced to our level of intelligence and greater on some of them. I dispute whether we can be certain at all that such civilizations last without imploding on themselves, or ever find a way to travel to distant stars.



And of course when you move from "possibility" to "evidence", I have yet to see a single piece of evidence that wasn't far more easily explained by natural Earth-based shyt than by invoking aliens.
A lot of people seem to have the inability to distinguish "You have the hubris to believe we're all there is!! I tell you some people are so arrogant as to believe with the infinite number of stars/planets there are in the galaxy that we're the only "intelligent" life in the universe!!" with "I think it's likely and probable that life, and even intelligent life exists elsewhere but there is a difference between belief and proof."
 

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Fukk no.

The sooner people realize this is a scam the better. People like former senator Harry Reid have funneled millions into “ufo research” programs which are conveniently ran by his friends; they’re all just a giant sham aimed at fleecing taxpayers.

Scientific research is one thing, but trusting the US government when they’re clearly scaremongering is a joke.
 

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If aliens are here wouldn’t that mean they’re here to colonize? Because to go from one star system to another is essentially time travel and their home probably won’t exist by the time they’re here
 

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nikka what , a alien popped up in your room?

Man if you don't get all the way the fukk out of here lmao.

You had sleep paralysis.

I’ve know what sleep paralysis is and I know the difference between being asleep and feeling/seeing a “shadow” and being awake and seeing a full being the same way you see any other. Your feminine babbling is unnecessary, next time keep scrolling when you see something on the internet you don’t believe.
 
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