Do you agree with ESPN's Pound for Pound rankings?

[Master Teacher]

What the fukk are you talking about?

Who the fukk said P4P is just the top guys by weight class?
You have any fukking idea how stupid that logic is?

That assumes that each division is equal to the other.
What you're saying is that if you have a stacked Welterweight division, but a weak Flyweight division, by definition the Top Flyweight would rank higher than the 2nd best Welterweight in a P4P ranking.

Good lord you're a fukking idiot.

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Listen you fukking moron

p4p was created to rank fighters who are in different weight classes who can't fight each other because of weight

It started with Sugar Ray Robinson you casual ass fakkit go watch espn

 

[Master Teacher]

Hey.. who was the last noteworthy opponent at 168 that Ward been in the ring with?

World is the best fighter at 168 he has no equal and is undefeated
he's already beat all the notheworthy opponents

Manny isn't the best in any division and doesn't even have a title

they aren't in the same convesation

 

[krackdagawd]

Hey.. who was the last noteworthy opponent at 168 that Ward been in the ring with?

beat lineal p4p Dawson via stoppage and holds the only un avenged W over Froch who was ranked p4p before he retired.

Also undefeated unlike Manny Pac who is now 3-3 in his last 6 fights


#SOGGang :sog:

 

[Manny Pac]

World is the best fighter at 168 he has no equal and is undefeated
he's already beat all the notheworthy opponents

Manny isn't the best in any division and doesn't even have a title

they aren't in the same convesation

168 is a shyt division compared to 147. Being the best in that division doesn't mean shyt really.The last legit fighter Ward fought at 168 was Froch and the was 4 years ago.And hes only fought 4 times since then

Manny is the 2nd best in the strongest and most competitive division in boxing

 

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168 is a shyt division compared to 147. Being the best in that division doesn't mean shyt really.The last legit fighter Ward fought at 168 was Froch and the was 4 years ago.And hes only fought 4 times since then

Manny is the 2nd best in the strongest and most competitive division in boxing

I would agree that 147 is clearly a better division than 168.

But Andre Ward deserves credit for being as good as he has been.

 

[Manny Pac]

I would agree that 147 is clearly a better division than 168.

But Andre Ward deserves credit for being as good as he has been.

i was responding to the idiot that criticized me saying I hadn't fought anyone noteworthy and don't belong on the list yet posts Ward at #2 when Ward hadn't fought a legit 168 fighter since Froch 4 years ago

 

[Manny Pac]

beat lineal p4p Dawson via stoppage and holds the only un avenged W over Froch who was ranked p4p before he retired.

Also undefeated unlike Manny Pac who is now 3-3 in his last 6 fights


#SOGGang :sog:

I like Ward bu you're living in the past.
Ward was dropped from the list (for good reason) and hasn't done shyt to be #2 since. He has to work his way back up. Talk to me when he beats a GGG or Kovalev aka REAL COMPETITION


As far as Manny
Bradley(1st fight) was a clear robbery that was avenged

Marquez was beaten 3 times already and ran from the 5th fight opportunity

Last fight. shoulder injury *** but Floyd still gets credit.

Easily Top 5 p4p

 

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i was responding to the idiot that criticized me saying I hadn't fought anyone noteworthy and don't belong on the list yet posts Ward at #2 when Ward hadn't fought a legit 168 fighter since Froch 4 years ago

Yes, but it's not like Ward is ducking anyone at 168. You know what I mean?

Maybe he'll fight DeGale. Or down the line he could try the Dirrell brothers.
Him fighting GGG was a pipe dream.

Maybe at Ward's age though, he doesn't stick at 168 for much longer and goes up and takes on Stevenson/Kovalev/Pascal.
Open up that division by beating Fonfara? Maybe that's the easiest way to acclimate himself?

@krackdagawd

 

[Manny Pac]

Yes, but it's not like Ward is ducking anyone at 168. You know what I mean?

Maybe he'll fight DeGale. Or down the line he could try the Dirrell brothers.
Him fighting GGG was a pipe dream.

Maybe at Ward's age though, he doesn't stick at 168 for much longer and goes up and takes on Stevenson/Kovalev/Pascal.
Open up that division by beating Fonfara? Maybe that's the easiest way to acclimate himself?

@krackdagawd

He aint ducking cause there's nobody there to duck

 

[krackdagawd]

I like Ward bu you're living in the past.
Ward was dropped from the list (for good reason) and hasn't done shyt to be #2 since. He has to work his way back up. Talk to me when he beats a GGG or Kovalev aka REAL COMPETITION


As far as Manny
Bradley(1st fight) was a clear robbery that was avenged

Marquez was beaten 3 times already and ran from the 5th fight opportunity

Last fight. shoulder injury *** but Floyd still gets credit.

Easily Top 5 p4p

at ggg being real competition when his best win is Gaele or Murray

All I'm seeing is a bunch of excuses. The irony of you telling me I'm living in the past Ward is above Manny, hell an argument can be made for having him at the lower side of the rankings or not even at all due to him getting slept. How many p4p guys got the bushes after getting ktfo

 

[krackdagawd]

Yes, but it's not like Ward is ducking anyone at 168. You know what I mean?

Maybe he'll fight DeGale. Or down the line he could try the Dirrell brothers.
Him fighting GGG was a pipe dream.

Maybe at Ward's age though, he doesn't stick at 168 for much longer and goes up and takes on Stevenson/Kovalev/Pascal.
Open up that division by beating Fonfara? Maybe that's the easiest way to acclimate himself?

@krackdagawd

Rocnation already discussed a kkkov fight for next year w Kov promoter.

 

[Manny Pac]

All I'm seeing is a bunch of excuses. The irony of you telling me I'm living in the past Ward is above Manny, he'll an argument can be made for having him at the lower side of the rankings or not even at all due to him getting slept. How many p4p guys got the bushes after getting ktfo

It would be an argument had I not bouned back, 12-0d Rios, beat Tim Bradley, Beat a very good boxer named Zack, and won 4 rounds against Floyd Mayweather best of this era.with a broke shoulder what has Ward done lately my nikka.. Ward not even on the list. nor should he be until he can beat a top 10 opponent in any division

 

[krackdagawd]

It would be an argument had I not bouned back, 12-0d Rios, beat Tim Bradley, Beat a very good boxer named Zack, and won 4 rounds against Floyd Mayweather best of this era.with a broke shoulder what has Ward done lately my nikka..l Ward not even on the list. nor should he be until he can beat a top 10 opponent in any division

Oh you mean the guy who didn't even do as good as Maidana who YOU have said is a trash fighter?

His only good win is Bradley that's it and that doesnt automatically erase getting knocked out.

Ward ranked higher than Manny and guess what you can do about it?













NOTHING. :sog:

 

[Manny Pac]

Rocnation already discussed a kkkov fight for next year w Kov promoter.

Next year? Damn so we have to wait for Ward to take on 2 more tuneup fights before he steps in the ring with anyone trill? This the nikka who #2?

 

[krackdagawd]

Next year? Damn so we have to wait for Ward to take on 2 more tuneup fights before he steps in the ring with anyone trill? This the nikka who #2?

Don't worry where we ranked it will always be higher than Pacman.

Ol make up injuries because you can't take ur L like a man ass nikka