Do White South Africans Deserve To Be Kicked Off Their Farm Land?

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A Primer of the situation from my stand point.

It not so much that THEY need to be kick off the Land, it more so that Black Africans need the Land.

The question with regard to mismanagement is non starter to me ....why because white ownership of the Land never benefitted the Black Africans hence it was being mismanage as far as being a Black South African is concern...of what good is productive land if it does not benefit the vast majority of the peoples of the Nation - if not only to see the enrichment of those who wish the destruction of Black South Africans

As for Corruption again a non issue people will cry corruption no matter how fair Land distribution is, if they do not get it their way. So then at this point the land under white ownership was of no benefit to Blacks, because whites have made decisions based on race for generations....Now is the time to give Blacks stewardship of the Land .... if only because they have no history of being racially malicious.
 

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Look at how Thomas Sankara managed socialist land reform. He nationalised all farmland then distributed it equally to the Burkinabé people. Crucially he then spent a lot of time, effort and money making sure the new farmholders were educated and supplied with all the equipment necessary to make their farms successful. Within two years Burkina Faso was entirely self-sufficient in food production, their farms were so successful they even had surplus food for export.

That's the way to do it. The trouble with socialism is you need a great and honourable man leading the movement to pull it off, somebody who is incorruptible and intelligent. Too often you get evil people who abuse the trust of the nation to enrich and empower themselves and their supporters alone.
 
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Look at how Thomas Sankara managed socialist land reform. He nationalised all farmland then distributed it equally to the Burkinabé people. Crucially he then spent a lot of time, effort and money making sure the new farmholders were educated and supplied with all the equipment necessary to make their farms successful. Within two years Burkina Faso was entirely self-sufficient in food production, their farms were so successful they even had surplus food for export.

That's the way to do it. The trouble with socialism is you need a great and honourable man leading the movement to pull it off, somebody who is incorruptible and intelligent. Too often you get evil people who abuse the trust of the nation to enrich and empower themselves and their supporters alone.
I am no supporter of socialism but it can never be stressed enough how much of a difference an honest & intelligent leader is compared to the common mentally inferior corrupt leader.
Making deals, organization requires brains & smooth negotiation skillz.
 

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The trouble with socialism is you need a great and honourable man leading the movement to pull it off, somebody who is incorruptible and intelligent.

If it requires "a great and honourable man leading the movement to pull it off," then we're not talking about socialism. A cult of personality for nationalist economics/state capitalism, maybe.

Socialism is achieved through the revolutionary self-organization of the working class for its own material interests to eliminate the control of the ruling class on society's productive means and the labor of the world's masses.
 

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If it requires "a great and honourable man leading the movement to pull it off," then we're not talking about socialism. A cult of personality for nationalist economics/state capitalism, maybe.

Socialism is achieved through the revolutionary self-organization of the working class for its own material interests to eliminate the control of the ruling class on society's productive means and the labor of the world's masses.

isn't that communism :skip:



not like any of that shyt is gonna happen
 

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I am no supporter of socialism but it can never be stressed enough how much of a difference an honest & intelligent leader is compared to the common mentally inferior corrupt leader.
Making deals, organization requires brains & smooth negotiation skillz.

Honest to an extent...

Africa needs leaders with those two qualities.. but also they need to be ruthless. Knowledgeable in how the world actually works...none of this high road moral shyt.
 
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Honest to an extent...

Africa needs leaders with those two qualities.. but also they need to be ruthless. Knowledgeable in how the world actually works...none of this high road moral shyt.
That's where the intelligence I mentioned plays a role, it will let leaders see through deceitful conmen a mile away predicting cacs/mongoloids moves.
Honesty is only for the home-front in terms of being anti-graft, anti-corruption.
 

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Taking the land wasn't the way to go in my opinion. Its highly unlikely the state will be able to produce the returns the cac farmers were seeing for some time.
I would have liked them to target the cacs profits.

The "cacs" can become employees. They claim to love SA and love living in SA. Give them a job paid better than 99.9% of the population. Problem solved.
 
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