Do nice girls finish last?

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My fiancée gave me an interesting perspective on this illogic. When it comes to nice guys, women feel that a nice guy is a “nice” to any woman so it isn’t special or true love. Versus an a-hole, they feel if they can get him to treat them like a simp then they equate that to “true love”. I repeat, it’s illogical but :yeshrug:.
Most people operate like that though. They assume if you do it for me too early, you must do it with nearly everyone.
 

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A nice girl to me is a woman who goes out of her way (and usually to her own detriment) to please others and allows her nice behaviour to get used and abused... similarly to what nice guys do and just like nice guys... nice girls never finish first.

Also mentioned is that nice girls and guys tend to think that just by being nice, helpful, pleasant and other gooey goody traits is enough to warrant a relationship when in reality these traits are usually secondary/tertiary to what people desire in a spouse
 

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please go deeper :patrice:
As some other posters mentioned in this thread, “niceness” isn’t as critical of a quality in attraction as a lot of people want it to be. Sure you don’t want someone who kicks kittens, but there’s a lot of other variables that factor in. You can be nice but irresponsible or stupid or naive or judgmental, or prudish, or incompatible.
There has to be more than a person just being cool to build a relationship. So when nice people become bitter thinking that their niceness should seal the deal it’s unreasonable.
From a dude’s perspective, what it’s shes sweet but looks like Grimace in the face. Or what if she is kind but has zero situational awareness so she always in the middle of some shyt and got u damn near losing ur life every time you go out. What if she is sweet but likes some ultra freaky shyt u just can’t even wrap ur head around.
Niceness by itself isn’t enough of a selling point when you are considering whether u want to spend large parts of ur life with someone. Same thing goes with women.
 

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And This is why I have no horror stories nor any ill will towards any of the women I've dealt with. I actually took time to vet who I was dealing with before hoping into anything serious.
  • How do you currently move in your daily life
  • How did you move in your daily life before I ever met you
  • How do you treat people
  • How do you treat yourself
  • What's your relationship like with your family
  • What are you working towards in life
  • What do you do with your free time
  • How does she treat me. (while this & a persons past can be faked for awhile ....unless she a superspy or some shyt, the above are not likely to be faked just for me)
Now these aren't explicitly asked questions, these are the type of things I observe before deciding what type of role she will play in my life.
You have folks skipping these things, getting burned, then showing up on youtube and the larger web shytting on the opposite sex.


CONCESSION:
  1. How folks act in divorce situations can be completely left of anything expected or shown prior.
  2. Depending on how young the person is they may not have a solid idea yet of what traits to (look for / avoid) in mates.










I was under the impression that their gripe was typically that folks complain about not finding a "nice" person to date ....then "ignoring" actually nice people they could date.
I.E. If folks never said "were are all the nice [insert opposite sex here] at" I don't think they would have the same gripes. (basically they are saying "if your looking for me I'm right here")
Now with that said that speaks to another of your points; that being nice alone won't cut it. Yes they want a "nice" person but in addition to other things.


Actually I'd expand on that "nice alone won't cut it" idea a different way.

I know girls who basically get up, goto work, goto lunch, maybe stop by the grocery store on the way home, then they are done for the day. Perfectly "nice" girls but you would never run into them.
The whole "night life" thing is only for a subset of people. Folks who operate outside of that type of rubric have a harder time finding mates.

I've advocated in the past for having multiple lanes.
  • "Night life"/online dating lane - For those folks who go out and actively pursue relationships
  • Family Arrangement dating lane - For folks who want relationships but don't want to deal with all the games of folks in the "Night life"/online dating lane.(community apparatus for families with adult children who've asked to be paired up)
  • College Marriages - For folks who want to marry people of a similar age and life path. (once out of school your dating pool is drastically reduced do to the age, work relation, and marital status of folks your typically around)
  • etc lane - For some other possible configuration.
So damn intelligent.:wow::ohlawd:
 

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Nice girls usually end up getting taken advantage of by grimy dudes, they're seen as easy prey.

Nope, the vast majority of women do not have morality as a criterion so a 'grimy dude' can commit all ills just as long as he does not do it to them
 

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There a a shockingly high number of women out there who have never had an orgasm. And all of their partners think they’re killing it.

I blame them for being liars.
I do too. Although there are a lot of dudes unreceptive and uncooperative when it comes to tips on how to please chicks in the bed. They come equipped with their porno moves and get offended if a chick ain’t magically wet with no foreplay for a dude who feels she should just take dikk and be happy.
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What those women should do is stop and put them out at the first sign of sexual wackness. But some of them trying to fukk their way into these dudes hearts, so they take them boring strokes hoping that him nutting=relationship. Goofiest shyt ever. :mjlol:
 

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Nice girls usually end up getting taken advantage of by grimy dudes, they're seen as easy prey.
Yeah I’ve seen this happen too. People mistake being nice for being stupid. You can be kind without being a doormat.

“No” is the most important word in a woman’s vocabulary.

“Come on baby just the tip”
:ufdup:NOPE.

“lemme hit it raw!”
:ufdup:NOPE
”Dats why u gon be alone!”
:ufdup:STILL NOPE
“You don’t love me?”
:ufdup:NOPE!
“You bitter!”
:ufdup:Still NOPE!

Nice girls only finish last when they care too much about what other people think about them and base their life decisions on those reactions.

“If I have sex they gon call me a hoe!”:sadbron:
“If I don’t have sex they not gon like me!”:sadbron:
“I gotta get married!”:sadbron:
“If I don’t do it another chick will!”:sadbron:
“He gon leave!”:sadbron:
“If I say no he gon think I’m bitter!”:sadbron:
It’s a mental trap. Girl, be careful, and do what u need to do to pursue ur own happiness instead of worrying about trying to please everybody. And you can do all of this without having a nasty attitude.:yeshrug: It’s all about choices.
 

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Nope, the vast majority of women do not have morality as a criterion so a 'grimy dude' can commit all ills just as long as he does not do it to them
Who said the vast majority of women were "nice girls"?
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Yeah I’ve seen this happen too. People mistake being nice for being stupid. You can be kind without being a doormat.

“No” is the most important word in a woman’s vocabulary.

"Nice girl" = submissive girl to the vast majority of men. Being too submissive to the wrong man can have disastrous results, and unfortunately for women, most men are the wrong man.

It's the same for "nice guys" willing to do anything for a woman, he's gonna be food to the vast majority of women because most women aren't "nice girls".

Kindness alone will only lead to failure.
 
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