Do Black Intellectuals Need to Talk About Race?

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

The first problem is the black intellectuals abandoned their communities once integration was implemented. They fled their own community and allowed foreigners to enter and exploit their people. They missed out on building a strong economic base which would have allowed for US to have more economic and political equity.

They thought they'd achieved Dr. King's Dream, but they definitely did not. And we still have not, regardless of how much the media attempts to pretend we have. Dr. King did not just want us to be able to vote and live next to massa.

Also, our idea of an intellectual has become skewed. There is a whole lot of bullshyt masquerading as intellectualism.

Isnt it the responsibility of the people within a community to build its economic base

Why is that task only assigned to a small % of the community

 

[ogc163]

 

[The Real]

Black Intellectual in the 21st Century.mov - YouTube

I was with him until he said that race was a "relic" in the 21st century. That's just absurd. Appiah's critique has nothing to do with the validity of race as a general concept. I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, because I know Loury doesn't usually make such simplistic and ham-handed remarks, so maybe the rest of the video this was culled from can clear it up.

 

[ogc163]

I was with him until he said that race was a "relic" in the 21st century. That's just absurd.

Knowing Loury's work I highly doubt he said meant it in a manner to trivialize race issues.

 

[The Real]

Knowing Loury's work I highly doubt he said meant it in a manner to trivialize race issues.

I'm aware of his work, too, but every now and then he goes off the rails, so I'm not sure. On one hand, he'll say that he has some affinity for Black Nationalism. On the other, he'll say that Black people "are not a people" without qualifying it beyond the absolutely general terms that could apply to every "people"- a very difficult argument to make, sociologically or anthropologically. Maybe it's just his conservative and liberal tendencies at war inside his own head.

 

[ogc163]

I'm aware of his work, too, but every now and then he goes off the rails, so I'm not sure. On one hand, he'll say that he has some affinity for Black Nationalism. On the other, he'll say that Black people "are not a people" without qualifying it beyond the absolutely general terms that could apply to every "people"- a very difficult argument to make, sociologically or anthropologically. Maybe it's just his conservative and liberal tendencies at war inside his own head.

When has he said/showcased an affinity for Black Nationalism? When I have seen him discuss racial issues he tends to focus on the larger issue versus how the issue specifically affects Black people, an example being his speeches and writings on the war on drugs or Affirmative Action. He wouldn't deny the racial aspects but he wouldn't place as much emphasis on race as it relates to AA compared to someone like a Kimberle Crenshaw,he would focus more on an efficacy argument instead of a "social justice" form of argument.

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Black people lost.

 

[The Real]

When has he said/showcased an affinity for Black Nationalism? When I have seen him discuss racial issues he tends to focus on the larger issue versus how the issue specifically affects Black people, an example being his speeches and writings on the war on drugs or Affirmative Action. He wouldn't deny the racial aspects but he wouldn't place as much emphasis on race as it relates to AA compared to someone like a Kimberle Crenshaw,he would focus more on an efficacy argument instead of a "social justice" form of argument.

"I have a certain affinity to the principles of black nationalism, like the mutual obligation of African-Americans to bond together."

This is a quote from an interview with him from the mid or late 90s. If I find an online link, I'll post it.

Here's one I did find online, which is post-Obama:

Glenn Loury Won
"I even flirted a little bit with sort of Black Nationalism. I mean, I had more than a kind word to say about the minister, Louis Farrakhan. I once wrote a piece about the Million Man March, 1995 Million Man March, Washington D.C., Louis Farrakhan, which is remembered, I think nowadays, mostly because Farrakhan gave a very odd and rambling, and in places incoherent and in other places kind of weird, speech. It went on for 90 minutes, or something like that, at this Million Man March. But the thing that I remember was one million, more or less, African-American men, assembled in one place, emphasizing communal uplift, responsibility, and a positive agenda. And I was very much taken by that. And I guess that still lingers in me to some degree. "


Also, his work on the state of modern prisons is very much race-centric and even Black-specific. In it, he argues directly that prisons enforce racial inequality by discriminating against Black people in a way that recalls critical race theory and structure-oriented sociology much more than it does more conservative approaches to the issue.

 

[Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson]

i have neva herd any bla dat i wood call an intaletshual etcep fuh ward conely. i guess if you bla all u have to due is be a marksiss, use big wurds and hate whies and da librul meedia will call u an intaletshual.

 

[ogc163]

Loury and John Mchwhorter...

Bloggingheads.tv

 

[KodeBlue]

Another problem I have with these neo-negro "black intellectuals."

They have no problem using big words to get their point across.
It's like they're trying to prove a point to their peers. "Hey, I'm smart! Look how many syllables I used in this sentence."

Sesquipedalianism.

 

[theworldismine13]

Loury and John Mchwhorter...

Bloggingheads.tv

Good stuff