DMX Was Definitely Telling The Truth About Jay-Z. Irv Gotti Confirms How Def Jam,
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bro Irv is just a guy salty because he lost.
There are a lot of stories about Jay being a "user" because he's the one that won in all of this.
Salty dudes are always going to be down to tell a story about the one that won.
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and guess when I heard that? When I was Back Home!
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Brooklyn not London broI'm comfortable dawg, from London to Rome
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You don't want to talk numbers if it's Vol 2 vs 400 Degreez.
He had the number one album in the country for 5 weeks in a row with Vol 2. Went 4 times platinum in like 6 months. Ended up doing 5. Numbers wise, he had his moment and he was bigger than X.
It gets complicated because X then went and dropped another album that sold like 600k out the gate
African Peasant
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98-99 X WAS a bigger force.
No YOU'RE on crack. I can't be mad at your rebuttal favoring X, I can't front at all. However, Juve wasn't hotter than Jay, who had the best tour that year. It's not saying that Juve wasn't hot at all, he wasn't hotter than Jay then. And comparing 400 to HNL is okay, I felt HNL was better and the whole wave connected to Jay was bigger than anything Juve had. X? I won't fight you on that, but Juve?
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What? Jay was never the best at any point in his career??? And @jadillac you said that I'M on crack???
Jay was running rap are you kidding me? Are you forgetting the days of the Roc??? He was setting trends where the sheep would follow, he had dudes changing clothes
DeuceZ
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I was listening to vol 2 and 3 yesterday and 
Aged quite horribly..the highs are high but the lows
definitely rode the ruff ryders sound heavy
Aged quite horribly..the highs are high but the lows
definitely rode the ruff ryders sound heavy
They were never that great in the first place. Especially Vol 3. That's where Jay lost me.I was listening to vol 2 and 3 yesterday and
Aged quite horribly..the highs are high but the lows
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What? Jay was never the best at any point in his career??? And @jadillac you said that I'M on crack???
The Roc was a movement but, Jay was never the best rapper.
You see how Drake is clearly running this rap shyt right now even if you don't like him.
Jay never had that kinda popularity. He always just had longevity. He was just good for a long, long time.
It's artists like DMX, Ja, Nelly and 50 Cent who were absolute superstars. But they came and went.
X was like that. Him crossing over into movies for a little bit only shows how big he was.
I think that its fair to say that maybe for the beginning part of 98 when X's album came out and did numbers. But then Jay was also bubbling with Money Aint A Thing, then Can I Get A and Hard Knock Life. Once Jay dropped end of September and was Number 1 for 5 straight weeks, he was without a doubt bigger than X.
Like I said already, it gets complicated b/c X then drops a second album right at the end of the year and is number one for 3 straight weeks into 99.
Overall - I'd say Jay had 98 although it is a close call and I can see how people would pick X.
X clearly takes 99.
What? Jay was never the best at any point in his career??? And @jadillac you said that I'M on crack???
breh, but NONE of that happened until around late 2000, into 2001. 2001 is really where Jay began explode nationally. That's when the Roc movement really became a movement. Cam, Jay, Dame, etc.
Before that he was putting out dope singles, but subpar albums. Go back and listen to HL2 and 3. They're awful production-wise, outside of the hit singles. And THAT is why I say 400 Degreez is better. It's still hot today.