DL Hughley accepts a challege to debate Dr Umar on whether the Democrat party is for black Americans.

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Wanting to do a debate while the school he promised to open, and took donations for, is still not up and running


Imagine if with all the energy yall spent posting about the school. What if black men pulled up to lay a few bricks. Or even pledge to pay a monthly fee. But no,not a single brick laid,and that 20$ is going to aPlanet Fitness membership fee ,but not being utilized. This is not an indictment or a comdemnation,but rather a suggestion:respect:
 

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I wouldn't give him the time of the day.

By accepting a debate on the matter, you're playing into the narrative that Black people who vote Democrat see it as the party for Black people.

That's not the position that needs to be defended. A political party isn't going to meet everyone of your objectives. Putting things simply, you vote for the party that best meets your interest.

I'd tell Umar to fukk off until he changes the name of the discussion to why are you voting Democrat over Republican.
 

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IMO it’s pretty easy. Do Dems do things SPECIFICALLY for black people? No. But what they do more than Republicans is fight for poor/middle class people. Due to 400 years of abominable treatment of people of color by America, blacks make up a disproportionate amount of the lower class so yes indirectly they do more for black people.
I’m sorry, this is BS. This “abominable treatment” isn’t exclusive to one party. It’s CACs all across the board.

The fact that we disproportionately make up the lower/poorer class should show us that these CACs are on the same page, it’s just that one does it in an insidious manner while the other is upfront.

Neither party has our best interest at heart but the goal for both of them is keep us as a permanent underclass, not empowerment.

If we collectively voted as a block as opposed to voting for the “lesser evil” every time, we wouldn’t get constantly lumped in with these other leeches, riding the coattails of our civil rights.
 

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Imagine if with all the energy yall spent posting about the school. What if black men pulled up to lay a few bricks. Or even pledge to pay a monthly fee. But no,not a single brick laid,and that 20$ is going to aPlanet Fitness membership fee ,but not being utilized. This is not an indictment or a comdemnation,but rather a suggestion:respect:


That is how he responded to an offer of help in the past, you little rapist.

He's received enough money over the years. The school not being open isn't on members of the Black community daring to spend their money on their health and entertainment.
 

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Look at this shyt. So the rubric for a successful candidate is to “get people out of their situation’.

Dudes like you just babble and make excuses for the inaction of politicians. Y'all such bootlickers that you got the nerve to say some dumb shyt like this.....i ain't even reading the rest of the bullshyt you wrote.
 

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Dudes like you just babble and make excuses for the inaction of politicians. Y'all such bootlickers that you got the nerve to say some dumb shyt like this.....i ain't even reading the rest of the bullshyt you wrote.

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Gold medal in the dapfish Olympics congrats my boy
 

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Double talk trying to finesse a bag :russ:
The only nikka on the coli you dweebs never question his motives outside maybe 3 or 4 posters
Including me
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When that weird case eventually comes out on Ultra Instinct Scammer
The deflections will be wild:dead:
Yup. This is all a case to seem more legitimate

He always does this. Scream for famous people and politicians to debate him. They usually inevitably ignore him

Steve and Dl took the bait. For Umar he is only trying to widen his audience for future sympathy donations
 
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I’m sorry, this is BS. This “abominable treatment” isn’t exclusive to one party. It’s CACs all across the board.

The fact that we disproportionately make up the lower/poorer class should show us that these CACs are on the same page, it’s just that one does it in an insidious manner while the other is upfront.

Neither party has our best interest at heart but the goal for both of them is keep us as a permanent underclass, not empowerment.

If we collectively voted as a block as opposed to voting for the “lesser evil” every time, we wouldn’t get constantly lumped in with these other leeches, riding the coattails of our civil rights.
what does voting as “a block” entail?

in the us, there are only two paths to the office of power, through the democratic party or the republican party.

one of those parties is unabashedly hostile to black empowerment, actively legislating to our community’s detriment.

the other party, while not particularly specific in addressing our grievances, legislates in a way that aids us.

:unimpressed:
 

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I’m sorry, this is BS. This “abominable treatment” isn’t exclusive to one party. It’s CACs all across the board.

The fact that we disproportionately make up the lower/poorer class should show us that these CACs are on the same page, it’s just that one does it in an insidious manner while the other is upfront.

Neither party has our best interest at heart but the goal for both of them is keep us as a permanent underclass, not empowerment.

If we collectively voted as a block as opposed to voting for the “lesser evil” every time, we wouldn’t get constantly lumped in with these other leeches, riding the coattails of our civil rights.
Read my post again. Did I attribute the abominable treatment to one party or to AMERICA?

Yes we disproportionately make up the poorer class because of what AMERICA has done.

Neither party is 10 toes down for us but it is obvious that one party cares more for the lower class than the other. NOT ENOUGH, but more than the other. Which one gave poor people Obamacare? Which one tried dozens of times to take it away? The fact is Obamacare reduced the amount of blacks without healthcare by 10%. Not enough, but something. Republicans tried to take that away and did not have an alternative plan.

Now your last paragraph I agree with. In fact, I think we should consider abandoning voting altogether in 2028. Lets tell Democrats now if you don't start fighting for reparations and other things sought by our community, we'll stay home. I'm tired of the government spitting in our faces. America has fought HARD for reparations for the Jews, but when it comes to us, nothing. Fun fact - they even went after France in 2014 for reparations for the Jews, despite the fact that France was on the side of the Allies in WWII. Something about a train in France that was used to transport Jews to concentration camps. I would have thought that was forced by the Nazis, but hey. Ended up getting $60+ million from them.

So again, neither party is fighting for blacks specifically, but at least the Dems fight more for the poor, which happens to disproportionately include us.
 

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Read my post again. Did I attribute the abominable treatment to one party or to AMERICA?

Yes we disproportionately make up the poorer class because of what AMERICA has done.

Neither party is 10 toes down for us but it is obvious that one party cares more for the lower class than the other. NOT ENOUGH, but more than the other. Which one gave poor people Obamacare? Which one tried dozens of times to take it away? The fact is Obamacare reduced the amount of blacks without healthcare by 10%. Not enough, but something. Republicans tried to take that away and did not have an alternative plan.

Now your last paragraph I agree with. In fact, I think we should consider abandoning voting altogether in 2028. Lets tell Democrats now if you don't start fighting for reparations and other things sought by our community, we'll stay home. I'm tired of the government spitting in our faces. America has fought HARD for reparations for the Jews, but when it comes to us, nothing. Fun fact - they even went after France in 2014 for reparations for the Jews, despite the fact that France was on the side of the Allies in WWII. Something about a train in France that was used to transport Jews to concentration camps. I would have thought that was forced by the Nazis, but hey. Ended up getting $60+ million from them.

So again, neither party is fighting for blacks specifically, but at least the Dems fight more for the poor, which happens to disproportionately include us.

Stop breh. Let him be dumb. He has to try and argue that Democrats and Republicans are the same so he can say in his mind "I might as well vote Republican".

We have to stop engaging with morons and just call them low information voters and move on.
 
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I wouldn't give him the time of the day.

By accepting a debate on the matter, you're playing into the narrative that Black people who vote Democrat see it as the party for Black people.

That's not the position that needs to be defended. A political party isn't going to meet everyone of your objectives. Putting things simply, you vote for the party that best meets your interest.

I'd tell Umar to fukk off until he changes the name of the discussion to why are you voting Democrat over Republican.
I wouldn't frame it that way, though. Throw it back the way all of the black-centered chatterboxes do: policy over party. That usually gives them latitude to vote however they want. Walk in there with an army of:
  • Proposed policies
  • Policies in existence that work
  • Policies in existence that should be expanded
  • Policies in existence that have been stymied by opposition
  • Policies that have been proposed but were made DOA by opposition
All of this would be public record and he can in his answers tell folks to go to Senate/House/Congress.gov and look up the exact bills he mentions. There is a lot of warranted criticism of the Democratic party but if we gonna dog em out, at least know what they are doing. It is ALL public record. Meeting minutes, the itineraries of public officials, all of it. People don't use this information when tailoring their argument so suddenly we get "so and so does everything/nothing for black people" with zero data to back it up. The problem with most political minded conversationalist personalities is that they convey and audience and the audience usually takes what they say as absolute gospel. The only person I listen to regularly regarding politics is Thom Hartmann and I fact check the shyt out of things he says and it actually makes me aware of how these things work and where to look for evidence of folks claims.
 
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