DL Hughley accepts a challege to debate Dr Umar on whether the Democrat party is for black Americans.

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Sooooooo....you don't want Black folks with different political views if you only get the people on the panel that are easily digestible to you. And this is in no way me putting on the cape for the bolded.
I personally feel like those people don’t have the best interest in mind for black people

Ultimately it should lead to improvement for our people and those people don’t seem like they care for that
 

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This wouldn't be a good debate cause it will be about "policy" in a round-about way.

"They are not for black people" with no specifics mentioned. I have seen DL quote laws and initatives (Umar as well) but this wouldn't be productive.

Blanket statements are bad. "Democrats are not for black people" ignores the people in the party trying to do right and bundles their efforts with those who don't care. I may be disappointed with national Dems but very pleased at my city council, my treasurer, and Mayor, etc. These conversations turn into a buncha nothing. If they aren't quoting bills, shyt that unfortunately the majority of people don't care to look at (see the California CalHFA Dreams for ALL threads), then its just emotions.

To this day we hear people talk about what other people get, including the "Asian hate crime bill", but the same people bringing them up don't know the text or that they are temporary and given the very same bills for us, they would call them symbolic.

Everyone is allowed to have an opinion but unfortunately no one is tasked with making sure it is an informed opinion.
 

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I think there's a very good chance Umar gets cooked. I think DL is just a better speaker than Umar. The idea that either of these two bufoons might be considered legitimate spokespeople for the black community is disheartening.

I’d rather, no lie, watch Charleston White and Amanda Seales debate.

Though I wouldn’t mind a black republican that’s not a complete c00n might be rare to find though :jbhmm:
I question whether such a thing ever existed, but I know in 2024 it definitely does not exist. Questioning the Dems paternalistic treatment of Black america is not enough justification to completely overlook the outright hostility provided by the Republcians.
 

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DL is joking, but if he agrees to an actual debate...He's about to get obliterated. :mjgrin:

You can tell there’s a generational gap on here, bc I’m older and I know for sure DL is going to mop the floor with dude :what:

Two totally different weight classes. Yall young nggas used to ‘takes’ and skits and winning off buffoonery. DL is educated on his shyt and just so happens to make it sound funny. DL does satire which is a higher level of intellect. DL could debate a legit political pundit.

And on top of that in true young ngga fashion dudes see old heads (or in this case, dude who got on back in the day), and think they ain’t with the modern shyts. Man DL came up off roasting nggas he got that in the toolbox too

Umar, like many modern viral internet folk , aint even technically funny, he’s a ngga we find funny. There’s a difference :hhh:
 

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Umar Johnson: "Give me proof that the Democrats are for black folks in Amerca"

DL Hughley gonna respond like a coli agent: "What the republicans/Trump doing for black folks" and deflect all debate.

It will be a slam dunk from the start for Dr. Umar.......i would watch it :unimpressed:

If that’s what you’re relying on your mans gettin washed. Bc that’s where DL being in the political arena by trade helps him. He will easily be able to pull the stats and give some ‘tangibles’

And that’s where the intellectual divide will occur bc I could see DL answering the question but young squirrel brained dopamine addict nggas will react to something completely unrelated that Umar says thsts “funny” and that will go viral
 

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I personally feel like those people don’t have the best interest in mind for black people

Ultimately it should lead to improvement for our people and those people don’t seem like they care for that
Bruh, none of these new nikkas give a fukk about black folks. Hence, why you see this idiotic mind state of, "why should someone fighting for Black folks not be able to make some $$ off of it." The folks saying that goofy shyt not realizing, you can't be a revolutionary and a capitalist. Those two ideals stay in conflict. It's how you get grifters like them BLM bytches or Umar or Tamika Mallory on stage at the Grammy's or in a Cadillac commercial. Martyrs don't get to die as the head of a brand or rich. It's how preachers who ain't done shyt but fill they own pockets have prospered and raped the community for so long.
 
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If that’s what you’re relying on your mans gettin washed. Bc that’s where DL being in the political arena by trade helps him. He will easily be able to pull the stats and give some ‘tangibles’

And that’s where the intellectual divide will occur bc I could see DL answering the question but young squirrel brained dopamine addict nggas will react to something completely unrelated that Umar says thsts “funny” and that will go viral
Mention certain loan programs, education initiatives, some criminal justice reforms, etc.

Detractors basically ask if the whole of black people went from one strata of society to another. If the answer is no, nothing was done. No reparations? Nothing you have done is worthy of attention.

Conversations seemingly start and end with if the efforts of a few politicians whole-cloth transformed the black condition. Incrementalism is a sin to those folks when it goes right for us and is wholly ignored when it goes against us (See DEI, Affirmative action, and what abortion bans will do to African American women's maternal mortality which was already the lowest of the low.)
 
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