Monster, Crawford, Spence, usyk too high, take Loma and Estrada off, add fury n diet charlo to start
Discussing Ring Magazine’s Questionable P4P List
- Thread starter Conscious Pilot
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No more PAWGs, PLEASE??!!!??
Usyk belongs because he has come up from cruiserweight. Maybe he should be ranked lower because at heavyweight, his power has yet to manifest. Maybe no 8
Loma has done nothing since 2019. He should be no.10.
Don't know much about Estrada to make an informed opinion
Loma has done nothing since 2019. He should be no.10.
Don't know much about Estrada to make an informed opinion
Knicksman20
Superstar
Crazy that there's no AJ on that list who has the best resume at HW & avenged his loss
chunky_mcdaniels
All Star
Must be based off fight output over 3-4 year period no?
That’s the only reason I can see Fury not on it.
or
That’s the only reason I can see Fury not on it.
or
- He bad mouthed the magazine/organisation at some point
- They deliberately left him off to get people talking about it (which we are.)
malbaker86
Gators
Crawford shouldn’t een be on this list if Beterbiev isnt
Crawford and Usyk are too fukking high.
Loma and Estrada don't even deserve to be top 10.
Jermell Charlo definitely should be on there.
Loma and Estrada don't even deserve to be top 10.
Jermell Charlo definitely should be on there.
Hungerpain
Banned
Spence should have Crawford spot if you ask me.
Probably will soon.
Probably will soon.
He was the year he lost to Ruiz...so was Wilder I think because he kept knocking out guys bigger than him by substantial weight. But Uysk? Nah, home. Inoue shouldn't anywhere near that high at all. I don't buy that. People are gonna keep arguing for Canelo till he gets beat...that's cool. That's coming but Spence is definitely top #3. Easily #1 for me because he didn't need to cheat against a 37 yr old ggg. Jermell Charlo should be in the top 7. Loma? Get him outta there and put Fury or Beterbiev on there instead.
King
The black man is always targeted.
Why is Inoue ranked so high?
I feel like he’s the great non-black hope that these CACs glorify since he’s Japanese so they feel like they’re better than most fans who actually pay attention to popular divisions with western fighters
Real pretentious shyt
I feel like he’s the great non-black hope that these CACs glorify since he’s Japanese so they feel like they’re better than most fans who actually pay attention to popular divisions with western fighters
Real pretentious shyt
Too many other fighters have had impressive performances while the 'staple' names have been out of action. Fighters like Usyk and Crawford deserve to fall a few spots lower for sure.
Taylor over Spence is BS. I'm taking Teo and Spence before Taylor.
They absolutely snubbed Jermell. I'm personally dropping Loma for Mel.
At this point, I don't know if heavyweights should be included in p4p lists or not. Fury probably should be on the list, potentially in place of Joshua, who i actually perceive as becoming more and more underrated by the public.
Taylor over Spence is BS. I'm taking Teo and Spence before Taylor.
They absolutely snubbed Jermell. I'm personally dropping Loma for Mel.
At this point, I don't know if heavyweights should be included in p4p lists or not. Fury probably should be on the list, potentially in place of Joshua, who i actually perceive as becoming more and more underrated by the public.
Have you watched him fight? He's a fukking force in the ring, and he should've been awarded a knockout against future HOFer Nonito, who just became a world champion again.
It's easy to shyt on Inoue cause he doesn't speak English and fights in the lower weight divisions, but he's held titles in 3 divisions, has looked dominant doing so, and is undefeated.
King
The black man is always targeted.
The bolded seems like the answer
But hey I don’t watch those divisions to begin with so who am I to say
2 Up 2 Down
Veteran
A lot of asian fighters get snubbed because there is a strong Western bias and 90% of the fights aren't shown on english language tv(streams now) in the west.
Veeraphol Sahaprom is a very good example. He was snubbed in the Bantamweight rankings and arguably the P4P rankings also. In his prime his was a masterclass boxer and what makes that even more impressive is that he had a whole ass muay thai career before that. Think of GSP picking up boxing after MMA and winning a title and defending it for like 5 or 6 years.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Can you explain why you would gave Spence over Taylor or Teo?
I believe Spence has firmly established himself as the most dominant 147lb fighter, presently. His victories have consistently been impressive, and even in the close fight against Porter, he scored the decisive knock down to once again separate himself from his foes.
He beat up on Danny unlike anyone else.
Fought Porter's fight, and won decisively, at least in my mind anyways.
Outboxes and then proceeds to bully Mikey Garcia.
Goes to England and knocks out the hometown fighter Brook to get his first world title.
Spence is, in my eyes, one of the toughest opponents to take on in boxing today. He has had enough dominant performances for me to feel comfortably about putting him over Taylor or Teo at this point.
He's closer to being in his prime, when compared to Teo.
His prime looks to have a slightly higher ceiling than Taylor at the moment.
P4P is always changing, this doesn't mean I can't eventually have either Taylor or Teo above Spence, but as of today, I would absolutely put Spence above them.