Digital media "ownership" is just a long term rental

[winb83]

Sony basically says we can take away anything we want from you whenever we want for whatever reason we choose without notification and you can't sue us because you had to have sent us a letter 30 days from first using our product to opt out of our binding arbitration from an arbitrator of our choosing.

You have no rights if you do business with this company. They get you to surrender them at the door by burying that fact in a bunch of legalese. Sony isn't unique in this either they're just the company bold enough to give their paying customers the finger and give zero fukks how it looks when everybody sees them do it.

Most companies have enough shame and wherewithal to know that taking stuff away from paying customers with no recompence is a PR disaster so they do something to ease the optics of it.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

This is lies.

If it’s on your hard drive, it’s yours. Just like if it’s on a disc on your shelf.

 

[winb83]

This is lies.

If it’s on your hard drive, it’s yours. Just like if it’s on a disc on your shelf.

No it is not because on a hard drive it still has DRM and depends on an account or specific piece of hardware for access. A disc on your shelf has no account attached to it. And yes there are situations where you can lose access to the account and or hardware the content authorized on.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

No it is not because on a hard drive it still has DRM and depends on an account or specific piece of hardware for access. A disc on your shelf has no account attached to it. And yes there are situations where you can lose access to the account and or hardware the content authorized on.

Discs literally are DRM and need specific hardware to work.

And you are wrong in saying that digital content is stuck tied to a specific account.

You can take you xbox/playstation/pc storage drive and plug it into any corresponding hardware and play the games on any account you see fit.

 

[Wildin]

Discs literally are DRM and need specific hardware to work.

And you are wrong in saying that digital content is stuck tied to a specific account.

You can take you xbox/playstation/pc storage drive and plug it into any corresponding hardware and play the games on any account you see fit.

*As long as its not connected to the Internet.

Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo could push out user, console or game specific updates to brick your entire console or just break a game at any time. Just call it patch or update 1.151322 shyt automatically downloads and installs and when various users try to play the game it gets stuck on the loading screen.

Will take at least a day or two before enough users take notice and start to warn others "don't download and install the update!"

Company responds with the usual "we apologize for the inconvenience, we are working on it". Good luck proving its intentional, and any class action suits won't result in them rolling back versions, but offering some sort of credit or just delisting and removing the game from all storefronts if they already haven't been and them going

 

[Deltron]

Discs literally are DRM and need specific hardware to work.

And you are wrong in saying that digital content is stuck tied to a specific account.

You can take you xbox/playstation/pc storage drive and plug it into any corresponding hardware and play the games on any account you see fit.

unfortunately bytchass nintendo, it is tied to accounts

I say that asa guy who has prob by now thousands of digital games tied into my nintendo account from the Wii to Switch

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

Just don’t let em take your books. Ain’t worried about missing episodes from Shark Week

 

[MeachTheMonster]

*As long as its not connected to the Internet.

Xbox, PlayStation, Nintendo could push out user, console or game specific updates to brick your entire console or just break a game at any time. Just call it patch or update 1.151322 shyt automatically downloads and installs and when various users try to play the game it gets stuck on the loading screen.

Will take at least a day or two before enough users take notice and start to warn others "don't download and install the update!"

Company responds with the usual "we apologize for the inconvenience, we are working on it". Good luck proving its intentional, and any class action suits won't result in them rolling back versions, but offering some sort of credit or just delisting and removing the game from all storefronts if they already haven't been and them going

They could also walk in your house, smack yo momma and take your discs

 

[MeachTheMonster]

unfortunately bytchass nintendo, it is tied to accounts

I say that asa guy who has prob by now thousands of digital games tied into my nintendo account from the Wii to Switch

Yeah nintendo ain’t shyt. Wouldn’t buy a digital game from them

 

[Wildin]

They could also walk in your house, smack yo momma and take your discs

If they can find them go ahead. I can't find my copy of Mario kart 8. I bought that damn game 3 times (wiiU, and switch 2x) I'm not buying it again.

shyt maybe that's what they'll do, sneak in your shyt when you're not home or be working undercover as the a/c guy, plumber, etc.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

This is lies.

If it’s on your hard drive, it’s yours. Just like if it’s on a disc on your shelf.

No.

 

[BobbyWojak]

'If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing'

 

[Wildin]

@MeachTheMonster @winb83

PlayStation Users Set to Lose Hundreds of TV Shows They Paid For

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In a move that will rightfully have people questioning the advent of an all-digital future, Sony has confirmed that hundreds of Discovery TV shows will soon be completely removed from PlayStation platforms — even if you've purchased them through the PS Store.

"As of 31 December 2023, due to our content licensing arrangements with content providers, you will no longer be able to watch any of your previously purchased Discovery content and the content will be removed from your video library," reads the rather sudden announcement. That same page includes a full list of all the Discovery shows that are being wiped — and it's a long one.

It's unclear exactly why Sony's previous agreement with Discovery has been axed, although it's worth noting that the network merged with Warner Bros. last year. It's possible that a new deal will be struck down the line, but as of right now, PlayStation users are about to lose access to a trove of digital media that they may have already paid for.

This certainly isn't the first time that stuff has been removed from the PS Store and people's purchase libraries, and you can bet it won't be the last. But this latest announcement is already sparking plenty of renewed debate over digital ownership rights, the necessity of things like physical media, and the underlying morals of piracy.

Will this mass deletion of Discovery shows impact you at all? Does this kind of thing make you question digital purchases? Raise an eyebrow at the mention of 'all-digital future' in the comments section below.

I don't know that systems download movies to your hard drive as I've never downloaded a movie on a console, but like i was saying if they delist it and you 'bought' it, well it just sucks to be you.

 

[Pazzy]

This is lies.

If it’s on your hard drive, it’s yours. Just like if it’s on a disc on your shelf.

They can remove it from the system main hard drive without you even knowing especially since they have access to your system already. Better copy that data on a usb drive, make duplicate copies or something.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

They can remove it from your hard drive without you even knowing especially since they have access to your system already.

They absolutely can not.