Diddy sonning Jermaine Dupri and calling for that Dre fade on Versuz

[I love Latina women]

I'ts a trash battle. So Diddy will be out there playing other's people beat and music and acting like like it's his?

Diddy ain't no musician.

No. Puff is a producer.

He's not a producer in the way that average Hip Hop producers are, he's a producer in the way that producers of Jazz, Rock and R&B are. He oversees the recording of the song and album. He knows his music and he knows what works and what doesn't. He knows how to advise producers and artists when it comes to the music

He has the vision when it comes to writing and producing music.

 

[African Peasant]

No. Puff is a producer.

He's not a producer in the way that average Hip Hop producers are, he's a producer in the way that producers of Jazz, Rock and R&B are. He oversees the recording of the song and album. He knows his music and he knows what works and what doesn't. He knows how to advise producers and artists when it comes to the music

He has the vision when it comes to writing and producing music.

That's also another problem: I don't think you can transcript the notion of producer the way it operates in live band genre in Hip-Hop. One of the reasons is that half of the work done by the "producer" in those genres is already done in Hip-Hop by the beatmaker. When Primo is digging the crates, he's arleady producing.

Diddy has the vision. Yes, I agree. IN that sense he's like a customer: he tells the musicians what he wants and they provide. He advises them on how to create the music, he does not create it. He's like the CEO of a car making firm telling his engineers what type of cars he needs for a new market. He can get credit for the commercial success of the car but not for the task of creating it. He's not a technician.
This Diddy/JD debate is based on confusion. Diddy here is more like an exec of a record company and that's what it was while JD is talking about creating music in the lab.

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

they should split this up into 2 nights. One night for R&B and the other for Hiphop. If so, then JD wins the R&B battle while he gets washed in the hiphop one.

 

[Bone$]

The entire live is a must watch... Classic

 

[NormanConnors]

"Producer" is a nebulous concept invented to create confusion and steal from artists.

A vezuz of "producers" does not make sense cause you dn't really know what you're comparing. Keep it to the muscians (singers, rappers, beatmaker, etc) or make it a battle of the exec. aka a battle of labels. But a battle of producers does not mean anything.

The better battle would be a Bad Boy Verzuz So So Def. In that case, Diddy and JD would be on the same level.


Diddy disrespecting someone who really created music (not just whispered some ideas in the studio) and people riding with Diddy is really crazy.

i RESPECT Diddy as a producer (not a "producer") because he initiated and funded thru bad Boy some great music. But he did NOT made that music.

This

 

[NormanConnors]

That's also another problem: I don't think you can transcript the notion of producer the way it operates in live band genre in Hip-Hop. One of the reasons is that half of the work done by the "producer" in those genres is already done in Hip-Hop by the beatmaker. When Primo is digging the crates, he's arleady producing.

Diddy has the vision. Yes, I agree. IN that sense he's like a customer: he tells the musicians what he wants and they provide. He advises them on how to create the music, he does not create it. He's like the CEO of a car making firm telling his engineers what type of cars he needs for a new market. He can get credit for the commercial success of the car but not for the task of creating it. He's not a technician.
This Diddy/JD debate is based on confusion. Diddy here is more like an exec of a record company and that's what it was while JD is talking about creating music in the lab.

Facts

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

Diddy trying to get Dre while he is going through a divorce and vulnerable is some scumbag shyt. He knows if he wins that he could claim king of all hiphop producers of all time

 

[Big Boss]

Its fukked up because JD got legitimate hits he actually PRODUCED (unlike Diddy) but nobody gives him that respect for his work and longevity. It’s like Hip Hop collectively reduced him to that “kiddy rap” guy when he’s responsible for soooooo much more

JD gets underrated

 

[Big Boss]

Puff only wants Dre because Dre comes with the biggest reward and the least amount of risk.

Dre is practically unbeatable in a Verzuz so losing to him is no big deal. Whereas losing to anyone else (JD included) makes Puff look bad

Facts Diddy losing Dre isnt an upset.

Folks expect Dre to win

 

[QU Hectic]

I’ve heard he was very hands on producing for the early So So Def crew and Usher’s second album


Here’s a story of Nas talking about JD producing a song and writing him a check for 100k on the spot and then going back to the boards

The second time Bow Wow was amongst greatness

 

[Dynamite James]

No. Puff is a producer.

He's not a producer in the way that average Hip Hop producers are, he's a producer in the way that producers of Jazz, Rock and R&B are. He oversees the recording of the song and album. He knows his music and he knows what works and what doesn't. He knows how to advise producers and artists when it comes to the music

He has the vision when it comes to writing and producing music.

At people thinking Puff is Quincy Jones. That’s pretty much what you described. Quincy actually reads music and plays instruments though

 

[Dynamite James]

 

[spliz]

Jermaine got hits as an artist too

Not in the same stratosphere brodie. Lol

 

[ThaBronxBully]

Does Dre Got Timeless R&B Classics In His Bag Spanning Decades

 

[spliz]

JD embarrassed himself. Real talk. Had a chance to prove his worth and all he did was talk. And JD’s ego is why cats like Dre and Timbo don’t fukk wit boy like that.