Diddy Has Paid Sting $2,000 Per Day for Failing to Clear Sample; Payments End in 2053

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Diddy is too smart to forget to clear such an obvious sample.

I remember D Dot said Kool & The Gang took 100% of the song rights for that Mase record and it wasn’t uncommon for that to happen for the obvious bug singles with obvious samples from major artists. But Diddy didn’t care because having the hit was the big win.
 

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Diddy is too smart to forget to clear such an obvious sample.

I remember D Dot said Kool & The Gang took 100% of the song rights for that Mase record and it wasn’t uncommon for that to happen for the obvious bug singles with obvious samples from major artists. But Diddy didn’t care because having the hit was the big win.
This right here. The collective business savvy in this thread is mind blowing to me. Diddy did not “lose” with this. If you guys think Diddy and Sony Music (Arista) in 1997 after years of sampling being a huge issue in music in the ‘90’s just “forgot” to sample it then idk what tell you. They simply didn’t even care to get permission. The No Way Out album has sold 7 million records world wide. Diddy successfully carried the Bad Boy ship past their biggest artists untimely death. It was a major WIN for Diddy and Bad Boy. It was essentially a loss leader. Like Costco and their rotisserie chicken. They slightly lose money/break even on the sales but the point is to get you into the store and buy shyt they do profit on.
 

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Are u in a time capsule? This took place over 20 years ago.
Are you stuck 20 years in the past? Rappers are getting sued for royalties today:umad:
This right here. The collective business savvy in this thread is mind blowing to me. Diddy did not “lose” with this. If you guys think Diddy and Sony Music (Arista) in 1997 after years of sampling being a huge issue in music in the ‘90’s just “forgot” to sample it then idk what tell you. They simply didn’t even care to get permission. The No Way Out album has sold 7 million records world wide. Diddy successfully carried the Bad Boy ship past their biggest artists untimely death. It was a major WIN for Diddy and Bad Boy. It was essentially a loss leader. Like Costco and their rotisserie chicken. They slightly lose money/break even on the sales but the point is to get you into the store and buy shyt they do profit on.
Sting owns 100% of the publishing royalties, Sting is the only winner in this. It's more than likely Sting would've let them use the song if they'd cleared it with him since he gets royalties from everybody it seems, and if they cleared it Sting would get about 25% of the royalties. On another note the actual song is very disturbing:huhldup:
 
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Responses in here are typical, but understand that Sting HAD to sue. He literally had no choice.

Had Sting not sued, he would have essentially relinquished rights to his own song. It goes like this: if you don’t protect your copyrights and trademarks you lose em for all intents and purposes.

So say Sting let diddy slide. Well, if 5 other people came after and sampled ‘missing you’, and sting decided to protect it then, the judge would ask Sting, “why didn’t you sue the first time it was sampled?”. It almost becomes public domain.

No one is going to even ask why diddy didn’t bother to clear the sample? He took not only the beat, but the melody, the chorus, and the signature lyrics in the hook. That’s insane. fukk does racism have to do with puff’s arrogance and incompetence?

It's The Coli, other way round it would've been "It's a business" and "Diddy won fukk that Cac" :troll:

Anyways how the hell do you sample Sting and not clear it first :russ:
 

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@KENNY DA COOKER make it make sense :damn:

Find Out Who Makes $2,000 A Day Off Of Diddy’s “I’ll Be Missing You

If only Sean "Diddy" Combs (then Puff Daddy) simply asked Sting for permission to use “Every Breath You Take” before the fact, then Andy Summers, Stewart Copeland and Diddy himself would be allotted their fair share of "I'll Be Missing You" copious royalties.

How much royalties you ask?

According to Celebrity Net Worth, Sting (and Sting alone), fattens his pockets with a cool $2,000 a day. In fact, every penny of royalties that is generated by both “Every Breath You Take” and “I’ll Be Missing You” ($730,000 a year) will continue to trickle into the bank account of Mr. Gordon Matthew Thomas Sumner, reportedly, until 2053.

A little background history on the ordeal: Diddy "forgot" to ask for permission for "Every Breath You Take," which subsequently allowed Sting to take legal action to receive 100 percent of the royalties generated by “I’ll Be Missing You." Had Diddy gotten the okay to sample the song, Sting would have probably gotten only around twenty-five percent of the royalties.

There is no way Puff and Bad Bay / Arista didn’t clear this sample
 

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This is so weird because of all people I figured Puff would have known better. He was sampling well known shyt left and right back then. How they let this nikka Sting on stage to sing with them after that?
 
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the sampling laws are racist...... cacs got rich making covers of black music but when hip hop came all of a sudden you can't repurpose a song or sample a 3-5 second loop without giving up all your royalties. I think Russell Simmons said he was gonna take the issue to the supreme court back in the day but probably didn't want the smoke




the label is supposed to clear the samples which makes it funny that it's always the artists who get sued for it

You have to pay to re-record a song, you have to pay to sample a song. Recording artists used to make pennies, the song writers, composers, and producers are who make the money. Barry Gordy was getting paid when white artists remake Motown hits. There’s always someone at the top who benefits.

Sample laws aren’t racist. If you’re going to go into entertainment you need to be smart, and most of these artists know the deal and push forward to get sued later.

What would juice world’s defense be against these “racist” laws? Sorry your honor, I’m a dumb negro who knows about nothing but partying, sex, and sneakers. I don’t know nothing about the white man’s laws.
 

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Master P made sure to only sample black artists. I bet they never cleared shyt first. No Limit's catalog was loaded with samples. Especially Mo B dikk's productions.

no Iimit did A LOT of interpolation too

I don’t know how anyone who is a shark on Puff’s level forgets to clear a sample on one of Sting’s top 3 hits.

Shyt is :mindblown:

Responses in here are typical, but understand that Sting HAD to sue. He literally had no choice.

Had Sting not sued, he would have essentially relinquished rights to his own song. It goes like this: if you don’t protect your copyrights and trademarks you lose em for all intents and purposes.

So say Sting let diddy slide. Well, if 5 other people came after and sampled ‘missing you’, and sting decided to protect it then, the judge would ask Sting, “why didn’t you sue the first time it was sampled?”. It almost becomes public domain.

No one is going to even ask why diddy didn’t bother to clear the sample? He took not only the beat, but the melody, the chorus, and the signature lyrics in the hook. That’s insane. fukk does racism have to do with puff’s arrogance and incompetence?

solid post

It's thecoli

"CAC. CAC. CAC-y"

Puff thought he was gonna get away with it :mjlol:


How do you straight up jack one of the largest songs of all time and think you’re gonna get away with it?!!
I don’t think he did...but ppl will run w/ it tho...I think he got the clearance beforehand but readily agreed to the one-sided terms bcuz even tho he wouldn’t really eat off the song it was featured on the album which went on to do huge numbers off the strength of that song...so it was worth it in the end and plus he got to give biggie a great tribute song

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:patrice: dunno about that
 

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A lot of those black artists dont even own their songs cuz they were screwed over back in the day......you think all them funk and soul artists getting paid? No only a few of their familites are and at the end of the day.....cacs cover songs for decades = standard fee....hip hop comes along with sampling = allowing 100% of their royalties to be taken away the shyt is racist period

Remind me of The Sopranos scene.






 

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That's karma for all the black artists He's done dirty contractually over the years:yeshrug:

Birdman and all the other grimy record label/producers are next:ufdup:.
 
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