Did you find Anakin Skywalker sympathetic in the prequels?

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I did feel sympathetic towards him at times. Most obvious times were when his mother died and when he was doing everything possible to get the power to keep Padme alive

But also every time Obi-Wan acted like a dikk towards him. He shot down every one of Anakin's ideas or told him he was an idiot. Anakin thought it would be a good idea to investigate who was trying to kill Padme - Obi-Wan basically tells him to stfu because they were only meant to protect/bodyguard her. 5 mins later, Obi-Wan is jumping through windows and heading down to McDonalds to investigate who was trying to kill her :beli:

Then you've got Yoda and the other Jedi telling him that he can't have any personal attachments because they can be used to lead him to the Dark Side, which is probably why he had not seen his mother in about 10 years :dead: Being a Jedi seems cool and all, but I don't think I could live like that

Of course, it was impossible to feel sympathetic towards him the other 90% of the time because he was a HOF simp and because of that rape face he had.

Lucas wrote the character of Anakin all wrong. He should have been more like a young Han - a young, funny, talented rogue who Obi-Wan struggled to handle at times, but you'd never think Anakin was a dikk. And it should have been Padme that was trying to chase that Jedi D and eventually got Anakin to fall in love with her, leading him to the Dark Side out of fear of losing her. Would have been a far more tragic downfall
 

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Only good thing about the prequels was obi wan catching bodies who had more significant kills NO one

Darth maul bodied fukk a animation

General grevioius bodied mad Jedis Obi wan put a end to his run

And of course Vader at his most powerful

Plus a few more scrubs then went on to hold his own against robot Vader, while he was flabby and sick

Obi wan the real hero :salute:
 

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No one to relate to in the order? He wasn't the only Padwan at the academy and he had other friends and allies, it wasn't like he was only running around with Obi Wan during that time.

Also you can explain the reasoning but we never really see it in a convincing fashion in the prequels. So much fo what you're talking about happens off screen and is only referenced briefly after the fact.
The other padawans were raised to hold back feelings and emotions, Anakin was not. Anakin was raised as somewhat normal despite being a slave. Obi was the closest but even still Obi could only open up but so much due to his upbringing.
 

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I did feel sympathetic towards him at times. Most obvious times were when his mother died and when he was doing everything possible to get the power to keep Padme alive

But also every time Obi-Wan acted like a dikk towards him. He shot down every one of Anakin's ideas or told him he was an idiot. Anakin thought it would be a good idea to investigate who was trying to kill Padme - Obi-Wan basically tells him to stfu because they were only meant to protect/bodyguard her. 5 mins later, Obi-Wan is jumping through windows and heading down to McDonalds to investigate who was trying to kill her :beli:

Then you've got Yoda and the other Jedi telling him that he can't have any personal attachments because they can be used to lead him to the Dark Side, which is probably why he had not seen his mother in about 10 years :dead: Being a Jedi seems cool and all, but I don't think I could live like that

Of course, it was impossible to feel sympathetic towards him the other 90% of the time because he was a HOF simp and because of that rape face he had.

Lucas wrote the character of Anakin all wrong. He should have been more like a young Han - a young, funny, talented rogue who Obi-Wan struggled to handle at times, but you'd never think Anakin was a dikk. And it should have been Padme that was trying to chase that Jedi D and eventually got Anakin to fall in love with her, leading him to the Dark Side out of fear of losing her. Would have been a far more tragic downfall


Honestly, I just don't think the whole "Fear of Padme dying" is a good enough reason to turn to the dark side and start killing kids.

I get that there was other stuff leading up to it (Anakin's mommy issues, Palpatine manipulating him, his issues with the Jedi Council, etc.) but still, I just don't feel like that should've been the final thing that pushed him over the edge. Maybe if Padme had actually died due to something the Jedi did, it would've been better. But a dream? Nah.


And to be honest I think his hatred of the Jedi was kind of unwarranted. I mean he was only in his early 20s, I'm sure they would've let him on the council eventually. No need for him to act like they owe him the job.
 

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Honestly, I just don't think the whole "Fear of Padme dying" is a good enough reason to turn to the dark side and start killing kids.

I get that there was other stuff leading up to it (Anakin's mommy issues, Palpatine manipulating him, his issues with the Jedi Council, etc.) but still, I just don't feel like that should've been the final thing that pushed him over the edge. Maybe if Padme had actually died due to something the Jedi did, it would've been better. But a dream? Nah.


And to be honest I think his hatred of the Jedi was kind of unwarranted. I mean he was only in his early 20s, I'm sure they would've let him on the council eventually. No need for him to act like they owe him the job.

He felt like that because every time they needed something handled, it was he and Obi Wan...at last for major missions. They were giving him tasks of a supervisor without supervisor pay.

I do agree that the final turn should have been something more than "Palpatine says". I understand offing Mace...heat of the moment...had to save the one with the secret too saving her. But there should have been something between that and the younglings.

Here's a question? Did Vader ever consider himself a Sith?
 

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Anakin thought it would be a good idea to investigate who was trying to kill Padme - Obi-Wan basically tells him to stfu because they were only meant to protect/bodyguard her. 5 mins later, Obi-Wan is jumping through windows and heading down to McDonalds to investigate who was trying to kill her :beli:
:russ: You're right though.
 

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Nah, and he definitely wasn't supposed to be. You don't become Vader by putting on a mask, Vader was an evil princess torturing son-torturing threatening his son to do it to his sister and his friends scumbag.

Anakin was always supposed to be off somehow. Note in the OGs the ONLY good things you hear are "great pilot, cunning warrior, good friend, powerful". Only Obi-Wan seems to kind of like him, Owen Lars and Yoda are absolutely :scust: Luke brings up his dad and the Emperor mocks him in front of his son.

People grossly misremember the OG trilogy and romanticized Vader and were expecting a noble idealistic Anakin.

Nah we needed someone prone to violent outbursts who was selfish, craves control and wanted power BUT who cares about people close to him.

That's what we got :yeshrug:

His transition makes sense and the fact that he snaps out of it in JEDI makes sense. He couldn't be a perfect Jedi because we've seen how low and scust Vader is.

He was sympathetic up until he took out the Tusken children/women.
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I did feel sympathetic towards him at times. Most obvious times were when his mother died and when he was doing everything possible to get the power to keep Padme alive

But also every time Obi-Wan acted like a dikk towards him. He shot down every one of Anakin's ideas or told him he was an idiot. Anakin thought it would be a good idea to investigate who was trying to kill Padme - Obi-Wan basically tells him to stfu because they were only meant to protect/bodyguard her. 5 mins later, Obi-Wan is jumping through windows and heading down to McDonalds to investigate who was trying to kill her :beli:

Then you've got Yoda and the other Jedi telling him that he can't have any personal attachments because they can be used to lead him to the Dark Side, which is probably why he had not seen his mother in about 10 years :dead: Being a Jedi seems cool and all, but I don't think I could live like that

Of course, it was impossible to feel sympathetic towards him the other 90% of the time because he was a HOF simp and because of that rape face he had.

Lucas wrote the character of Anakin all wrong. He should have been more like a young Han - a young, funny, talented rogue who Obi-Wan struggled to handle at times, but you'd never think Anakin was a dikk. And it should have been Padme that was trying to chase that Jedi D and eventually got Anakin to fall in love with her, leading him to the Dark Side out of fear of losing her. Would have been a far more tragic downfall




Anakin was Givin her that Jedi D girl, no limit

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No, the prequels were written and directed so poorly you had competent actors like Natalie Portman, Liam Neeson, Hayden Christensen, and Ewan McGregor still come off as uncomfortable because of the bad dialogue:

"I wish, I could just.... wish my feelings away"

The Prequels were Anakin's story, but they were to run parallel to Luke's story of doing the right thing and becoming a Jedi. Luke was sympathetic and overall likable and those traits really weren't found in the PTs until the very end of ROTS.

A competent director and proper script we get:
ESB
Rogue 1
ROTJ
Lesser Extent (TFA)

Vader is supposed to be a tragic character, if they made him less entitled, spoiled, and arrogant, and made his coercion to the Dark Side more believable, think Fredo in Godfather II....
Yeah these shyts needed a director like the dude that directed empire he was changing dialogue when he saw ways to make it work better.
 
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