Did Rae, GFK, GZA, OdB all dropping better albums than Meth hurt his legacy?

[Habit]

Listening to Supreme Clientele, I wonder what Meth thought when GFK of all people put Wu on his back.

 

[classicmaterial]

Tical 2000 hurt his legacy, not anything that anyone else did

 

[SoulController]

Tical 2000 hurt his legacy, not anything that anyone else did

shyt had 1 crossover track and like 18 bangers, i still dont know wtf people wanted from that album

3 out of the 4 other mid 90's Wu solos are regarded as top 25-30 overall hip hop classics, and people loved Dirty's too. so i wouldnt hold that against him, he should have at least one other great solo to his name after 19 years but he made some great music

taking 3 years off then dropping Tical 0 was , tho. he knew it

 

[Big Mel]

Tical 2000 is a dope album.


As for Tical, people actually loved that album. Just because the rest of the solos were next level piffery doesn't negate that.


His career was semi stifled due to the Wu dynamic. Group album....5 solo albums.....another group album.....unofficial break up.


The way Wu was structured didn't really allow Meth to continue striking while the iron was hot on the solo tip. But, his features on other solos and the group albums have him cemented as a legend among legends.

 

[John Hull]

He stopped getting wet... hurt his creativity.

 

[JayBaldacci]

meth was supposed to be the shining star of the wu. he had everything(dope flows, dope voice, could get technical and deep, could be simple and listenable, street dudes messed with him, ladies liked him, could be funny or serious, had crazy charisma) but he never dropped a clutch album to me.

 

[Habit]

He stopped getting wet... hurt his creativity.

He even claimed that Joe Budden rapping about doing pcp was influenced by him.

meth was supposed to be the shining star of the wu. he had everything(dope flows, dope voice, could get technical and deep, could be simple and listenable, street dudes messed with him, ladies liked him, could be funny or serious, had crazy charisma) but he never dropped a clutch album to me.

He dropped 2 decent albums, but it doesn't his all those other albums were so damn spectacular.

 

[Big Mel]

I also think the Redman team up eventually eneded up hurting him. First off, he was always seen as getting bested by Red, secondly--they became campy and cuddly as opposed to the hardcore image they both previously excelled with. That pairing served Red's career more than Meth's.


Plus, Blackout! Was kinda bland.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Considering Tical was great and Tical 2000 is underrated as all hell, I think this really just speaks to how talented he truly is...not necessarily that he never lived up to his potential. Because as good as he is, most people seem to think he could've made better solo albums, especially early on. I don't know if I agree with that or not.

I do think Method Man is arguably the best rapper with the weakest discography after his first two albums.

He set the bar so fukking high though, could he have pleased everyone? Who knows...

 

[The Message]

shyt had 1 crossover track and like 18 bangers, i still dont know wtf people wanted from that album

3 out of the 4 other mid 90's Wu solos are regarded as top 25-30 overall hip hop classics, and people loved Dirty's too. so i wouldnt hold that against him, he should have at least one other great solo to his name after 19 years but he made some great music

taking 3 years off then dropping Tical 0 was , tho. he knew it

I liked Tical 2000 but that album was all over the place with all those skits. lol

In NYC in 94, 95 it was BIG, Prodigy, Meth, Nas, Buckshot too. Meth was that next dude up. The hype before Tical was thick. Meth was HUGE. But Tical wasnt that NY classic everybody hoped would stand up with Ready To Die, Illmatic or The Infamous. It kinda took his name out the hat a bit. When Rae dropped Cuban Linx, that REALLY took his shine away.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I also think the Redman team up eventually eneded up hurting him. First off, he was always seen as getting bested by Red, secondly--they became campy and cuddly as opposed to the hardcore in,age they both previously excelled with.


Plus, Blackout! Was kinda bland.

Blackout sounds better to me now than when it dropped. After the How High movie they definitely became more campy.

They have one of the best live shows in hip-hop though.

 

[feelosofer]

I also think the Redman team up eventually eneded up hurting him. First off, he was always seen as getting bested by Red, secondly--they became campy and cuddly as opposed to the hardcore in,age they both previously excelled with.


Plus, Blackout! Was kinda bland.

This, I thought I was the only person that though BlackOut was just okay, or at least not as good ad either rapper was capable of putting.

I mean shyt if you wanna be real funky, Meth got outshined by Fred fukkin Durst.

 

[ZEB WALTON]

the redman team up brought meth into a different style of beats hes suited for imo. meth is ncie over that grimey shyt but he started going for that generic rocwilder banger shyt

 

[TheDarceKnight]

I liked Tical 2000 but that album was all over the place with all those skits. lol

In NYC in 94, 95 it was BIG, Prodigy, Meth, Nas, Buckshot too. Meth was that next dude up. The hype before Tical was thick. Meth was HUGE. But Tical wasnt that NY classic everybody hoped would stand up with Ready To Die, Illmatic or The Infamous. It kinda took his name out the hat a bit. When Rae dropped Cuban Linx, that REALLY took his shine away.

Yeah. But take the skits off, and the album is solid as fukk. 8 skits is just too much, which still would've left the album at 20 tracks, but there are at least 16 bangers on there.

 

[Big Mel]

Let's not go crazy with the Fred durst nonsense.