Did Portugal have the biggest fall-off in Colonial history?
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Henri Christophe
Son Of Afrika
All colonial territories maintain the culture passed down from their colonial overlords.... I call it a shyt-stain of colonialism.
Things like dress code, religion, language are shyt-stains from colonialism... its just a cultural reminder that you were under subjugation at one point.
Doesnt mean you runnin shyt currently tho cause of language.
Americans speak English, its a colonial doodoo-stain.
France would be an example of maintaining control of former colonies.... killing over 20 African presidents in the past 60 years, demanding exclusive trade agreements, mobilizing troops on African soil, overthrowing several African leaders and bribing politicians, demanding African nations put their money in French banks, providing electricity for their country via African resources meanwhile African women are living with zero electricity and being forced to sell their children due to the poverty created for French benefit.
Thats power & control.
Henri Christophe
Son Of Afrika
they quiet bc they dont wanna pay reparations
Damn
the prince of Portugalin 1522 choose to liberate Brazil from Portugal then went to invade Portugal later and became king before dying from TB... damn i aint know all that
What happened to Portugal? It was a world power with a naval presence, great explorers, and colonies around the world in the 1400s/1500s, but doesn't have the same stature now. - Quora
There are many dates that show the downfall of Portugal from grace. The main ones, in my opinion:
The key aspect though, is in the highlighted 1755. The Lisbon earthquake hits Lisbon right at the start of the industrial revolution, and Portugal misses out largely on this period, never really catching up with the rest of Europe.
During the XIX century, when France and Great Britain reached the peak of colonial expansion, Portugal was simply bankrupt. Without an industry and facing constant instability, Portugal managed no more than to keep its colonies, largely due to the diplomatic will of GB.
Finally, in the XX century, Portugal is stuck in a corner of Europe, poor and under developed, and managing a vast colonial empire that cannot really afford. The regime was super traditionalist and industrialisation was not a priority. It closes itself to the outside world and tries to keep its colonies at all costs, but could’t really pay for those costs and the economy in Portugal starts to deteriorate even more, while the rest of Europe was booming.
After the 1974 revolution the decision to drop all the colonies at once was not surprising. People just wanted the war to end and nobody could be fooled into believing they were “ours” anymore.
So this is story of how Portugal became this:
What happened to Portugal? It was a world power with a naval presence, great explorers, and colonies around the world in the 1400s/1500s, but doesn't have the same stature now. - Quora
There are many dates that show the downfall of Portugal from grace. The main ones, in my opinion:
- 1580 - following the disappearance of the king in battle, Spain invades and claims the Portuguese throne, beginning the Iberian union that lasted until 1640.
- 1755 - as the Brazilian gold is starting to run out, a huge earthquake hits Lisbon - you can’t make this stuff up - the rich Imperial capital crashes down and burns, killing thousands and starting a huge crisis. The municipality of Ouro Preto where gold was found was the most populous city of Latin America, counting on about 40 thousand people in 1730 and, decades after, 80 thousand. At that time, the population of New York was less than half of that number of inhabitants and the population of São Paulo did not surpass 8 thousand
- 1806 - Napoleonic wars, the entire royal court flees to Brasil, moving the Capital to Rio de Janeiro. The duke of Wellington comes to help repel the French, the war leaves Portugal devastated.
- 1810–1910 - Portugal loses Brasil in 1822, is left economically devastated, declares bankruptcy multiple times, faces civil war and multiple rebellions.
- 1910 - Republican revolution. the 1st republic lasts 16 years and has 45 different governments
- 1916 - Portugal joins WW1, in a effort to keep its colonies, it works
- 1926 - after a period of political assassinations and ungovernability, a new military-backed dictatorship begins.
- 1961 - Beginning of African Colonial wars
- 1974 - End of the dictatorship, Portugal formally (and chaotically) abandons all of its colonies at the same time (except Macau). The country starts becoming what it is today.
The key aspect though, is in the highlighted 1755. The Lisbon earthquake hits Lisbon right at the start of the industrial revolution, and Portugal misses out largely on this period, never really catching up with the rest of Europe.
During the XIX century, when France and Great Britain reached the peak of colonial expansion, Portugal was simply bankrupt. Without an industry and facing constant instability, Portugal managed no more than to keep its colonies, largely due to the diplomatic will of GB.
Finally, in the XX century, Portugal is stuck in a corner of Europe, poor and under developed, and managing a vast colonial empire that cannot really afford. The regime was super traditionalist and industrialisation was not a priority. It closes itself to the outside world and tries to keep its colonies at all costs, but could’t really pay for those costs and the economy in Portugal starts to deteriorate even more, while the rest of Europe was booming.
After the 1974 revolution the decision to drop all the colonies at once was not surprising. People just wanted the war to end and nobody could be fooled into believing they were “ours” anymore.
So this is story of how Portugal became this:
Henri Christophe
Son Of Afrika
True indeed
Portugal literally got lucky in the Treaty of Tordesillas. They definitely over performed.
Treaty of Tordesillas - Wikipedia
The sleeper?
FRANCE
FRANCE
they quiet bc they dont wanna pay reparations
Damn I thought the US and Spain would be higher than that
god damn Portugal
Henri Christophe
Son Of Afrika
The sleeper?
FRANCE
Nah man, France never got out of the imperialism game.
Imperialism is France's life force... Subjugating the African is French culture.
Their identity, wealth, and status on the world stage comes from their legacy of subjugating the African and putting their feet up his ass.
I dont know how a country who imported 50,000 Africans per year is seen as some liberal nation of modern elegance.
nikkas talk about Trump but never mention the legendary white supremacist Rochambeau
Donatien-Marie-Joseph de Vimeur, vicomte de Rochambeau - Wikipedia
Rochambeau would hold events with the French elite during his time in Haiti where Africans would be tied to poles, impaled with swords. and eaten by dogs
Women & children drowned at sea for amusement.... Hung for laughs... Decapitated for fun.
The French put up big numbers for white supremacy and theyre still in Africa gettin rich, committing murder and robbery.
All colonial territories maintain the culture passed down from their colonial overlords.... I call it a shyt-stain of colonialism.
Things like dress code, religion, language are shyt-stains from colonialism... its just a cultural reminder that you were under subjugation at one point.
Doesnt mean you runnin shyt currently tho cause of language.
Americans speak English, its a colonial doodoo-stain.
France would be an example of maintaining control of former colonies.... killing over 20 African presidents in the past 60 years, demanding exclusive trade agreements, mobilizing troops on African soil, overthrowing several African leaders and bribing politicians, demanding Africans nations put their money in French banks, providing electricity for their country via African resources meanwhile African women are living with zero electricity and being forced to sell their children due to the poverty created for French benefit.
Thats power & control.
The exact reason I don't consider them "fallen" off. They still have colonial ghosts despite being mute in the modern era. Most of the Brazilian leadership for the past two centuries have direct ties to Portugal, as well as their government derives from the Portugal empires. You can't fall if another country still uses your government, speaks your language, and elected officials still pledge allegiance to colonial powers.
Portugal has direct diplomatic and trading ties to Angola. Portugal is Angola's top importer.
Fallen off would be Denmark. Little to no remnants of their empire globally.
The OG slave traders/human traffickers... The OG travelers... The OG imperialists.... The OG war-mongers.... The OG plugs on weapons.
now nobody cares about Portugal.... zero relevance.... zero power.... the only thing they got now is the legendary Cristiano Ronaldo.
Did all that slave trading & dying at sea for nothing.
bum ass nikkas.
I hope you ain't Black...we can't say shyt about Portugal...we have the GOAT fall off in the history of the Milky Way Galaxy. nikkas ganked our whole continent.
Henri Christophe
Son Of Afrika
cole phelps
Superstar
The OG slave traders/human traffickers... The OG travelers... The OG imperialists.... The OG war-mongers.... The OG plugs on weapons.
now nobody cares about Portugal.... zero relevance.... zero power.... the only thing they got now is the legendary Cristiano Ronaldo.
Did all that slave trading & dying at sea for nothing.
bum ass nikkas.
right where they should be bottom of the barrel. Hope those spicy cacs stay there permenitly 