Did Kendrick steal snoop&Dre buzz for their album

[Lord Beasley]

nikka, whT buzz????

 

[Big Boss]

Also ... All this "nobody wants to hear 50 year olds rap talk"

See if that's the case among Suga Free fans, see if his fans don't highly anticipate his work and feel like he's at the absolute top of his game right now


This is a creative realm, you need to CREATE the right thing

A perfectly executed track by the artist in the studio does not necessarily or inherently mean that the song is right for the artist's brand

Dr. Dre's brand is typecast in the gangsta rap category

That is where his legacy resides

But guarantee that is not where his soul feels most comfortable he doesn't like that stuff he doesn't look highly upon it he wanted to get out of it in 1995 with "been there done that" ... But guess what, that was a failed product rollout

We saw that again when Jay Z dropped Kingdom Come and dubbed it as grown man ra
Same product premise, more successful rollout at the time


Dr. Dre naturally wants to make soul music. He literally probably has MJ like vibes toward fans of gangsta rap

He wants Marsha Ambrosia type music to be successful with his name attached

He doesn't want to have to keep going back to the gangsta rap well ... He's into music and musicianship

But the reason Suga Free is highly anticipated among his fanbase and Dr. Dre is alienating from his fan base is because pimping lends to the natural element of human seduction ... Gangsta rap lends to the energy of male adolescence, that's something you more quickly grow out of

But the industry never wanted to let pimp game be a focal point of their selling point, because it elevated the mind beyond that which feeds to the prison industrial complex

Dre needed to come back like a titan, similar to the vibes he had on the track from the Eminem Show album. That is right at the peak evolution for 2001 Dre and he was successfully moving from gangsta rap to rapping as though he is a literal giant megalith

Dre spinning donuts in a Chrysler 300C product placement is like the Steve Buscemi "how do you do fellow kids" meme

Facts

 

[⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐]

the crazy thing is you know Dre has a bunch of heat from the death row that he'll never put out officially

Breh ...

I'm about to make use of this

As a tribute

For educational purposes
I was at the Up in Smoke Tour at 8 years old. Dr. Dre is an important figure to me. We actually have the same birthday too

 

[bigde09]

Breh ...

I'm about to make use of this

As a tribute

For educational purposes
I was at the Up in Smoke Tour at 8 years old. Dr. Dre is an important figure to me. We actually have the same birthday too

That’s dope breh

 

[Raquinotj]

Don't you get more wisdom as you get older?

Have you heard what subject matter Dre and Snoop rap about?

Let me remind you. Be 60 and 53 rapping like you’re in your mid 20’s Brehs surrounded by people that can be your grandkids.





Someone said Snoop looking like Big Hit and I can’t unsee it.

 

[derro13]

That song with Sting...wtf is this

 

[TheJet]

Imma still check it out tho

 

[Don Jesus]

Also ... All this "nobody wants to hear 50 year olds rap talk"

See if that's the case among Suga Free fans, see if his fans don't highly anticipate his work and feel like he's at the absolute top of his game right now


This is a creative realm, you need to CREATE the right thing

A perfectly executed track by the artist in the studio does not necessarily or inherently mean that the song is right for the artist's brand

Dr. Dre's brand is typecast in the gangsta rap category

That is where his legacy resides

But guarantee that is not where his soul feels most comfortable he doesn't like that stuff he doesn't look highly upon it he wanted to get out of it in 1995 with "been there done that" ... But guess what, that was a failed product rollout

We saw that again when Jay Z dropped Kingdom Come and dubbed it as grown man ra
Same product premise, more successful rollout at the time


Dr. Dre naturally wants to make soul music. He literally probably has MJ like vibes toward fans of gangsta rap

He wants Marsha Ambrosia type music to be successful with his name attached

He doesn't want to have to keep going back to the gangsta rap well ... He's into music and musicianship

But the reason Suga Free is highly anticipated among his fanbase and Dr. Dre is alienating from his fan base is because pimping lends to the natural element of human seduction ... Gangsta rap lends to the energy of male adolescence, that's something you more quickly grow out of

But the industry never wanted to let pimp game be a focal point of their selling point, because it elevated the mind beyond that which feeds to the prison industrial complex

Dre needed to come back like a titan, similar to the vibes he had on the track from the Eminem Show album. That is right at the peak evolution for 2001 Dre and he was successfully moving from gangsta rap to rapping as though he is a literal giant megalith

Dre spinning donuts in a Chrysler 300C product placement is like the Steve Buscemi "how do you do fellow kids" meme

He produced this months before chronic dropped. This is the type of music he wanted to make. But Iovine had other plans

This is like an evolution of the world class wreckin cru shyt he was doing in the 80s

 

[Deadman187]

He produced this months before chronic dropped. This is the type of music he wanted to make. But Iovine had other plans

This is like an evolution of the world class wreckin cru shyt he was doing in the 80s

Don't forget the Jimmy Z album too

 

[Don Jesus]

Don't forget the Jimmy Z album too

Yep

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

a few reasons, imo:

• nas was rapping his ass off on those albums: he held up his end of the bargain, and he did it in a way that resonates if you've been a fan of nas his whole career. snoop dont even sound like snoop from what we've heard so far, with the exception of the sting cut where he's sing-songing; he's clearly using a ghostwriter, and the result isn't even kinda familiar. it reminds me of when kendrick was ghostwriting for dre on compton. i do NOT need to hear dre trying to kung fu kenny his way through a verse.
• hit boy delivered too: there are definitely albums from their run that i dont fukk with as much. and in particular, i think the kings disease series is a little overrated, overall. but i appreciate the effort hit boy put into giving nas challenges, opportunities to explore different styles and trends, without making the albums feel completely foreign to longtime fans or the purists who hate when nas goes too far left. so far missionary sounds like dre has completely lost touch with what works for him and snoop. again, i fukk with it so far. but it's not what i was hoping for.
• magic: the magic series is where all complaints die. hitboy adapted his style to give nas production that felt the most in line with his style as an MC. then he took the sound and stretched it, until magic 3 felt like the best version of KD's experimentation and magic's purist vibes. magic 1 in particular is among the best albums nas has ever made imo.

i dont care about sales. artists at nas' career stage are never gonna move the needle commercially, unless they luck into a viral/crossover hit. i just care if the music works.

You hit the nail right on the head bruh

This is why those Nas projects work and why I hate what Snoop and Dre have done on the singles.

 

[DaHNIC82]

Y'all making it about age like there aren't already active 50/60 yr olds in rap/music

MIke Dean has been on the boards of some of Kanye and Travis Scott's biggest hits. Charlie Wilson has been a piece of Tyler The Creators greatest songs. George Clinton,with minimal input, set a very distinct tone for To Pimp A Butterfly

Like I said earlier the problem with Dre is the nikka ain't been around now that is a common issue I see with hip hop producers. Nikkas get big, then become hermits or price themselves out the game

I'll never forget a NPR Mannie Fresh interview from 10 years ago. When asked why he hasn't been active his first answer was "Well to be honest nikkas can't afford me". That's the easiest way to fade into oblivion and ruin your relevancy. Timberland admitted that his head got too big and he had to lower his prices at one point. Nikkas get too cocky and start thinking they're above shyt. You don't get automatic respect for your past. It's great that you made a great thing 20 years ago, but that rarely keeps you afloat and relevant forever

Meanwhile Pharrell is 50+ and still relevant, still respected, and still sought after. Pharrell doesn't say "nikkas can't afford me" Pharrell seeks out younger talent he likes and works with them. Buzz ain't automatic, even if you're Dr Dre

Hell E-40 out here quietly doing numbers and that nikka pushing 60, but E-40 is active

And to further add. Dre is one of them nikkas that folks feel they can't say no too because of his track record... That's why they surround themselves with suits and Yesmen

 

[dubsmith_nz]

Man at this point I just hope the album tracks lean into what we really want from them. None of the singles have hit like they would have hoped at all, and that Sting shyt is just a strange song and concept all round.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Y'all making it about age like there aren't already active 50/60 yr olds in rap/music

MIke Dean has been on the boards of some of Kanye and Travis Scott's biggest hits. Charlie Wilson has been a piece of Tyler The Creators greatest songs. George Clinton,with minimal input, set a very distinct tone for To Pimp A Butterfly

Like I said earlier the problem with Dre is the nikka ain't been around now that is a common issue I see with hip hop producers. Nikkas get big, then become hermits or price themselves out the game

I'll never forget a NPR Mannie Fresh interview from 10 years ago. When asked why he hasn't been active his first answer was "Well to be honest nikkas can't afford me". That's the easiest way to fade into oblivion and ruin your relevancy. Timberland admitted that his head got too big and he had to lower his prices at one point. Nikkas get too cocky and start thinking they're above shyt. You don't get automatic respect for your past. It's great that you made a great thing 20 years ago, but that rarely keeps you afloat and relevant forever

Meanwhile Pharrell is 50+ and still relevant, still respected, and still sought after. Pharrell doesn't say "nikkas can't afford me" Pharrell seeks out younger talent he likes and works with them. Buzz ain't automatic, even if you're Dr Dre

Hell E-40 out here quietly doing numbers and that nikka pushing 60, but E-40 is active

The thing with guys like Mannie Fresh and Just Blaze is that they can make more money DJing than they can producing so in the case of someone like Just Blaze, he's only going to work with an artist he truly respects or do things he thinks add to his legacy......so he worked with Lil Baby on the space jam soundtrack, he gave Drake a beat for him and rick ross. Basically, he pops up here and there to do things on his terms that make sense while scoring video games and commericials all which can pay him way more than doing something for a random rapper today.

The music industry has changed so much from the era of super producers and guys aren't making a lot of money off music anymore. With Rappers, they can tour, many producers from that era rather just DJ or score different projects.

 

[Iverson_64]

Man at this point I just hope the album tracks lean into what we really want from them. None of the singles have hit like they would have hoped at all, and that Sting shyt is just a strange song and concept all round.

What's kind of funny is that Snoop was already part of "Mount Westmore" and that group did a much better job hitting that retro West Coas sound while sounding natural in their raps.



None of the songs from "the Missionary" have even hit that level so far and I don't even rank the group or album that highly. Missionary, so far, sounds more like late 2000's Dre when he was struggling to find a sound that would stick and throwing darts on the board while still promising Detox.

And their raps sound a bit pedestrian and I'm not talking about in terms of multis and punchlines which was never their lane but just in terms of mic presence. That Outta Tha Blue joint sounds like a borderline loosie that got leaked from the studio.