Devin Faraci of B.M.D. (a known Marvel fanboy) is a reviewer that Rotten Tomatoes has verified.

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Breh...by your logic, jurassic world and the transformers movies shouldn't have worked because the critics hated those yet clearly the box office said "we don't care what you think" the palms aren't greased but then again, i don't prescribe to conspiracy theories

Jurassic World was a critical success though breh. Believe it or not. I don't believe it, but it was.. lol

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

seeing how the fakkit did nothing but hate on the movie and did all he could to defame SS

yet, the moment CW dropped, the fucc boy been cumming in his pants bout this the best shyt ever... yeah last person ill trust to judge a movie without bias..

problem is the majority of marvel stans think like him and are sheep which causes the problem that we're in now, people believing that marvel can do no wrong smh

Marvel fans are sheep, but DC fans aren't. Cmon breh. The word Fan is short for Fanatic. I'm sure both companies have those in spades. But you got to be kidding me if you don't believe 30 to 35% of the box office of BvS isn't just flat out comic book fans, who give nary a fukk about either film company and just want to see comic movies. But when you start talking about Critics liking Thor 2 over BvS It's like. WTF are you even talking about. Ya'll stay talking about how Thor got positive reviews or Antman got positive reviews. It's like We are talking about BATMAN VS SUPERMAN. Icons. Legends. You think the are going to be graded on the same curve as Antman? Did Ant-man cost half a billion to make and produce? I'm certain it didn't did Thor no. Your talking about the "Event Film" to end all even films, and mad it wasn't graded like Ant-man. Cmon.

 

[Rapmastermind]

Jurassic world has a fresh rating.

Anyway, I think it's fairly obvious that faraci is a hack marvel fan boy.

But I digress. Thing is with DC, DC is by far the most talked about shyt on the Internet. All over. Every DC thread dwarfs other films threads. Any news or rumour gets huge legs.

Guys like mcweeny and faraci know this, they take their marvel bias,spin every DC news with negativity because it gets clicks.

As far as critics, I think it's painfully obvious most do have a Marvel bias. Thr 2 having a fresh RT score tells you everything you need to know.


As far as BvS, critics hate Snyder. It's as simple as that.

Anybody that doesn't realize critics are just people like anyone and can and do have a hive mind where they praise or hate on certain directors is a rube.

I think SS Wil be well reviewed

This is my only point, people act like Critics can't be bought off or that they can't have motives. I said in the BatsVSupes thread that there was a clear Synder hatred from critics very simular to Michael Bay. My only argument is RT isn't gospel.

Breh...by your logic, jurassic world and the transformers movies shouldn't have worked because the critics hated those yet clearly the box office said "we don't care what you think" the palms aren't greased but then again, i don't prescribe to conspiracy theories

Yes there are examples of critical bombs killing the box office shoot "BatsVSupes" is still over 800 Million. We call those films "Critic-Proof" like "Transformers" is definitely a critic proof franchise. But most films aren't that lucky to survive disasterous reviews. As far as the palm greasing, I'm not saying it's an epedimic, I'm just saying there are critics in bed with studios. It's no different thay payolo in radio, everyone says it doesn't happen until of course it's shown it happens. The question is I guess does it affect overall ratings at a high level which I'd agrue probably not but doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But there seems to be some "Group Think" issues with RT as well. There was a clear pile on with "BatsVSupes".

 

[The_King_of_Everything]

Some guy from another site said "zemo's plan makes no sense but its okay"

Same guy said "Luthor's plan makes no sense "

Bu bu but marvel is fun!


I swear man this whole DC marvel thing made marvel fans look so bad and insecure especially when most DC fans enjoy marvel films as well

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

This is my only point, people act like Critics can't be bought off or that they can't have motives. I said in the BatsVSupes thread that there was a clear Synder hatred from critics very simular to Michael Bay. My only argument is RT isn't gospel.



Yes there are examples of critical bombs killing the box office shoot "BatsVSupes" is still over 800 Million. We call those films "Critic-Proof" like "Transformers" is definitely a critic proof franchise. But most films aren't that lucky to survive disasterous reviews. As far as the palm greasing, I'm not saying it's an epedimic, I'm just saying there are critics in bed with studios. It's no different thay payolo in radio, everyone says it doesn't happen until of course it's shown it happens. The question is I guess does it affect overall ratings at a high level which I'd agrue probably not but doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But there seems to be some "Group Think" issues with RT as well. There was a clear pile on with "BatsVSupes".

Outside of the first Transformers do you think any of the films have been good?

 

[wire28]

I swear man this whole DC marvel thing made marvel fans look so bad and insecure especially when most DC fans enjoy marvel films as well

DC fans are so bitter they are thinking up giant conspiracy theories to find excuses for why people like marvel movies and saying shyt like if you dont like *insert DC product* you arent intellectual enough to understand it

please stop yall are hilarious

Spoiler

the bitterness is hilarious yall are really hurt when people dont share yall opinion

 

[AnonymityX1000]

This is my only point, people act like Critics can't be bought off or that they can't have motives. I said in the BatsVSupes thread that there was a clear Synder hatred from critics very simular to Michael Bay. My only argument is RT isn't gospel.



Yes there are examples of critical bombs killing the box office shoot "BatsVSupes" is still over 800 Million. We call those films "Critic-Proof" like "Transformers" is definitely a critic proof franchise. But most films aren't that lucky to survive disasterous reviews. As far as the palm greasing, I'm not saying it's an epedimic, I'm just saying there are critics in bed with studios. It's no different thay payolo in radio, everyone says it doesn't happen until of course it's shown it happens. The question is I guess does it affect overall ratings at a high level which I'd agrue probably not but doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But there seems to be some "Group Think" issues with RT as well. There was a clear pile on with "BatsVSupes".

If it is a payola thing what is WB's problem? They are a major studio part of a multi billion corpiration, they can't buy critics?!
That's where the conspiracy falls apart. Disney can't own every critic can they? Are we saying one corporation is more evil or savvy than the other? It's really illogical.

 

[MartyMcFly]

This is my only point, people act like Critics can't be bought off or that they can't have motives. I said in the BatsVSupes thread that there was a clear Synder hatred from critics very simular to Michael Bay. My only argument is RT isn't gospel.



Yes there are examples of critical bombs killing the box office shoot "BatsVSupes" is still over 800 Million. We call those films "Critic-Proof" like "Transformers" is definitely a critic proof franchise. But most films aren't that lucky to survive disasterous reviews. As far as the palm greasing, I'm not saying it's an epedimic, I'm just saying there are critics in bed with studios. It's no different thay payolo in radio, everyone says it doesn't happen until of course it's shown it happens. The question is I guess does it affect overall ratings at a high level which I'd agrue probably not but doesn't mean it doesn't happen. But there seems to be some "Group Think" issues with RT as well. There was a clear pile on with "BatsVSupes".

Breh there's group thing in critic groups period. Rotten tomatoes isn't some offshoot of critics or a critic group itself. There is group think because a lot of these cats roll in the same circles and their friends. So the tendency is there to think like people you consider your peers and friends.

And yeah don't buy the payola thing. Not saying it's impossible since I worked in radio and saw it but I'm probably closer to journalism than radio

 

[gluvnast]

Honestly I always felt RT was flawed and there are tons of Revisionist reviews. As for reviewers being paid off. Of course this happens. It's no different than Big Phrama paying off politicans. Bad Reviews can derail a movie and possibly hurt it's box office. So naturally sudios want to avoid that. "Reviews KILLED Fantastic 4 this past summer" I honestly think there was conspiracy with "BatsVSupes" reviews espeically when you see what "Iron Man 2 + 3, Thor 2" got. Please. The question is why would Marvel be scaed of competition when they are doing so well? Easy with no huge comp they can clean up every time with everything. But now Fox is making a comback with the last X-men movie and now "Deadpool" being a surprise hit and the new Xmen movie is looking like it might do well also.

People forget "The Dark Knight" was the first Billion Dollar comic book film and it came out the same year as "Iron Man 1" did so it's not like DC can't have success it's just they are doing this "Shared Universe" thing for the first time. "MOS" may have got average reviews but it still almost did 700 Million WW and which was way better than "Superman Returns". So box office wise DC is doing great but critically not so much. I'm sorry but if these critics called it like it was Marvel would of had a couple more"Rotten" films then currently. I didn't agree with them all the time but I'd take Siskel and Ebert over the Entire RT any day of the week. But people have to remember, all critics aren't created equal. At the end of the day you have to be a judge and the ultimate critic. I've watch films that have gotten horrible reviews and loved them.

Both "Bad Boys" films got trashed by critics and we all know there classics. Sometimes RT gets it right and they get it wrong. They aren't perfect and people need to stop acting like they are the end all be all. As for Devin, Yes he's a Marvel guy but I wouldn't say it's a conspiracy with him. "Civil War" just may be the better crafted film, with that said you can tell there are some Bias reviews against DC just by the tone of review. I've already read some "Civil War" reviews that litterally start out with "Unlike Batman V Superman", lol. I like Collider and Campea but I understand if people think they are in bed with Disneybecause of the "Star Wars" connection but I wouldn't say they are too bias because they talk about every movie and everything.

GOATS

Honestly...I do not think it is Marvel. I think it all about DISNEY and its obsession to rule and take over EVERYTHING and willing to go things, even unethical or sometimes illegal underhanded moves they'll go through to crush the competition. Now this isn't ONLY Disney. I feel that EVERY HOLLYWOOD studio was heavily guilty of this. It is in part why the Oscars are such a joke today due to the politics and biases and corporate paying out votes that comes into play. But truth be told, Disney IS the most powerful studio out and really trying to monopolize the game. But that's Hollywood business and it is what it is.

But as for the modern day critic. It is a sad state. I cannot and will not attribute if any one of them were paid to smear, even though many of professional critics do work for a big-time market owned by media corporations such as WB, Fox, and Disney. But most of the critics that contribute on RT today are purely fanboys with a computer. They are no more different than your typical Coli member. You go on Twitter, since we are speaking on Faraci specifically, and he go and rants just like an obsessed fanboy.

The other issue is DEFINITELY bandwagoning or a presumption of a film being garbage purely due to the brand name OR who's the producer or director. You mentioned Bad Boys.... and really, MICHAEL BAY. And just by his name alone, critics and people with that groupthink mentality (I used to be guilty of this myself) automatically just going to go in and just HATE anything he directs OR producers.... yet, since Bad Boys, he is one of the most SUCCESSFUL filmmakers of this generation... this despite virtually every film he was involved in has been panned. And this isn't by ANY defense to many of his films that I view as garbage in my personal opinion, but a lot those films WERE ENTERTAINING and that's what all his fanbase typically wants. It's why Transformers stay making money. As well as the last and this new Ninja Turtles film is going to be a hit as well. But you know going IN that critics are going to trash it even without even trying to look at it from an open mind....

The biggest irony of it all is that Bay wrote the blueprint formula that Feige used to make Marvel a repeated formulaic success which is a bunch of action and cheesy lighthearted fun without consequence not suspending belief on most things. This is also why those Fast and Furious films as well as Jurassic World are MEGA successes.... generally, this is all popcorn movie goers WANT. It just so funny that those films, the Jurassic Worlds, FF's, Transformers, all get mixed to bad reviews most of the time, but when it is Marvel which does no different, even if they ADMIT flaws to the film someone like Jeremy Jahns (to whom I usually like, but puts his Star Wars/Marvel fanboy bias lenses on) will still rate it a perfect score despite its flaws like he did with Civil War.

Lastly... I REALLY miss Siskel and Ebert. Hear what they said back in the 90's... it almost made me shed a tear how it is worst TODAY then it was becoming back then!




Good post, BTW @Rapmastermind

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

That Cinderella joint even got 84%

Even Maleficent which everyone knew was utter trash got 50%

 

[Rapmastermind]

Looks like the Marvel/DC Critic war is getting little serious. Youtube Critic Grace Randolph is going in on the DC/Marvel critic bias including talking about Campea:

Grace Randolph (@GraceRandolph) on Twitter


Grace Randolph ‏@GraceRandolph 2h2 hours ago
Dude @TheWrap doesn't get it but news of anti-BvS campaign reaching trades thanks to today's Twitter War! #WorthIt

 

[AquaCityBoy]

He's the same guy who said that Suicide Squad was doing reshoots because of how Batman V. Superman turned out, which is false. They added action sequences, not more levity.

You believe that shyt?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

You believe that shyt?

I know it to be true. the guys on Collider who are far from being any type of DC fanboys know people who work on Suicide Squad and they said it's absolutely false that the movie has had all sorts of dark humor from the start and everything in the 3rd trailer was shot months ago.

 

[Arishok]

Looks like the Marvel/DC Critic war is getting little serious. Youtube Critic Grace Randolph is going in on the DC/Marvel critic bias including talking about Campea:

Grace Randolph (@GraceRandolph) on Twitter


Grace Randolph ‏@GraceRandolph 2h2 hours ago
Dude @TheWrap doesn't get it but news of anti-BvS campaign reaching trades thanks to today's Twitter War! #WorthIt

But Campea likes MoS and BvS

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Looks like the Marvel/DC Critic war is getting little serious. Youtube Critic Grace Randolph is going in on the DC/Marvel critic bias including talking about Campea:

Grace Randolph (@GraceRandolph) on Twitter


Grace Randolph ‏@GraceRandolph 2h2 hours ago
Dude @TheWrap doesn't get it but news of anti-BvS campaign reaching trades thanks to today's Twitter War! #WorthIt

Grace is doing God's work. I like Campea but when Disney is rolling out the red carpet for him and his team you don't think that maybe they are going to want to give everything a glowing review so they can continue to receive those luxuries?