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"DESTINY" 2014-15 Chicago Bulls Season Thread
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Hopefully all this translates into the regular season and we get off to a good start. Bulls always seem to look good during preseason then regular season starts and they get off to slow starts.
cornercommission2k12
so this were u dudes went
I still think we want see the team full potential until December/janurary
The bench has to learn its identity and how to sustain leads. They still shaky on that. Meaning the starters are going to be in dog fights at the end of a lot of games. Then you know we got that circus trip.
But looking at the schedule if the bench puts it together and pau can become a little more assertive on offense we should be top 2 in the east by December then taking 1 seed by February.
my feelings RE: Jimmy
sign him asap on the most team friendly deal possible (8 mil? - Avery Bradley like contract?)
if it costs 10 mil, just get it done
defenders like Jimmy dont grow on trees (even if Thibs is planting the seeds)
we have a three year window right now and we plan on eventually starting Doug @ the 3 (we will need a solid perimeter defender next to him)
sign him asap on the most team friendly deal possible (8 mil? - Avery Bradley like contract?)
if it costs 10 mil, just get it done
defenders like Jimmy dont grow on trees (even if Thibs is planting the seeds)
we have a three year window right now and we plan on eventually starting Doug @ the 3 (we will need a solid perimeter defender next to him)
So your solution is to give Jimmy an 8 figure pay day and be in cap purgatory. All the while hoping that that one offensive playmaker comes along and takes less all because said player "buys into Thibs system & winning". I thought that way of thinking finally died this off-season. You give Jimmy a huge payday, and you're stuck with a core with no secondary shot creator on the wing. With this new TV deal, the price tag is going up on every player.
Your first name may be god, but you damn sure ain't got the answers here.
Now if we were talking about somebody like Kawhi, who isn't the best ballhandler, but slashes AND finishes very well at the rim, hits opens shots, WHILE locking down the team's best player, and still has a very high ceiling to get better, then we could entertain paying him some of the numbers mentioned in this thread. But, Jimmy does one thing on a exceptional level and that's play defense. His jumper has been spotty at best, and altho he can slash to the rim, he has problems finishing there. I honestly don't think his ceiling is that high either.
Both Ronnie Brewer and Luol Deng was very good defenders under Thibs. That may not be have been as good as Butler, but they were solid, and Snell is in his second year
.Who cares about guarding fukking Lebron if we can't score & keep up with his team as a whole?
This nikka Jimmy needs a Taj like deal at this point. Either that, or a contract that's heavily back loaded to give him more in the later years to coincide with the rising cap each year. There's no way I'm giving him a huge payday up front just to be over the cap for years and still not win shyt. If a team is dumb enough to give him the max, then oh well. They won't win shyt just like we haven't with him.
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So your solution is to give Jimmy an 8 figure pay day and be in cap purgatory. All the while hoping that that one offensive playmaker comes along and takes less all because said player "buys into Thibs system & winning". I thought that way of thinking finally died this off-season. You give Jimmy a huge payday, and you're stuck with a core with no secondary shot creator on the wing. With this new TV deal, the price tag is going up on every player.
Your first name may be god, but you damn sure ain't got the answers here.
Now if we were talking about somebody like Kawhi, who isn't the best ballhandler, but slashes AND finishes very well at the rim, hits opens shots, WHILE locking down the team's best player, and still has a very high ceiling to get better, then we could entertain paying him some of the numbers mentioned in this thread. But, Jimmy does one thing on a exceptional level and that's play defense. His jumper has been spotty at best, and altho he can slash to the rim, he has problems finishing there. I honestly don't think his ceiling is that high either.
Both Ronnie Brewer and Luol Deng was very good defenders under Thibs. That may not be have been as good as Butler, but they were solid, and Snell is in his second year
Who cares about guarding fukking Lebron if we can't score & keep up with his team as a whole?
This nikka Jimmy needs a Taj like deal at this point. Either that, or a contract that's heavily back loaded to give him more in the later years to coincide with the rising cap each year. There's no way I'm giving him a huge payday up front just to be over the cap for years and still not win shyt. If a team is dumb enough to give him the max, then oh well. They won't win shyt just like we haven't with him.
Who cares about guarding the player who's dominated the bulls for years?
Bulls added gasol,mirotic,mcdermott,brooks along with rose returning that's plenty of offenseLebron averaged 28 ppg 8 rebs 4 apg 57%fg and 51% from 3's with kahwi leonard guarding him.Lol @ locking down the teams best player
Lebron averaged 24ppg 7 rebs 8 apg 44% fg and 35% from 3's with Jimmy Butler guarding him and that was butlers 2nd year in the nba
Can't take no bulls fans serious if you think butler is some expendable role player who is a product of thibs.Anything between 32-40 mil for 4 years will be a good contract for butler
beenz
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The reason jimmy looks so good now is Cuz hes not camping in the corners for three anymore. Also playing with rose benefits him Cuz they actually run the break now and rose will set him up for easy scoring opportunities.
kevthesureshot
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Who cares about guarding the player who's dominated the bulls for years?
Lebron averaged 28 ppg 8 rebs 4 apg 57%fg and 51% from 3's with kahwi leonard guarding him.Lol @ locking down the teams best player
Lebron averaged 24ppg 7 rebs 8 apg 44% fg and 35% from 3's with Jimmy Butler guarding him and that was butlers 2nd year in the nba
Can't take no bulls fans serious if you think butler is some expendable role player who is a product of thibs.Anything between 32-40 mil for 4 years will be a good contract for butler
but the second part he said was "if we can't score & keep up with his team as a whole?" which is what the spurs were able to do. The heat could sustain lebron's drop in production because Bosh would eat off mid range jumpers cause how we played him. and they'd have role player step up at the right time from haslem, cole, allen, miller etc.
i just wanna see us enter the playoffs with the whole starting lineup and see what we got.
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The spurs held the heat under 100 in every game of the finals and were 3rd in defensive rating and 6th in opponents ppg they could play defense the heat couldn't stop them offensively that's why they got sonned.I beleive the bulls can contain the cavs as a team the bulls use to contain the heat and the cavs won't be no where near the heats level of defense either which will make it easier for the bulls to score.I agree the bulls need another wing scorer but we'll see what happens 1st
So if Butler wants 9-10M we just let him go, continue the Bulls formula of letting talent go in search of the second star we've been trying to get since 2009 
Even if we let him go, we're not gonna have cap space for 2 years, so it's not like we can let him go and then go sign a max guy this upcoming summer.
Even if we let him go, we're not gonna have cap space for 2 years, so it's not like we can let him go and then go sign a max guy this upcoming summer.
Since the Bulls got plenty of offense, why are you concerning yourself with a "window" to when it comes to re-signing Jimmy? Shouldn't they be the favorites then win it all combined with the defense?
Is this nikka really insinuating that Kawhi isn't an elite defender because Lebron decides to pick his spots against Kawhi as if he was playing Twister? Did you even watch the finals? Talk to me when Jimmy can average 24 over a 3 game span while shooting 61% from the 3 point line and 59% from the field while both serving as the main defender for LeBron and being guarded by him.
Kawhi >>>>>> Jimmy
We gonna act like a player like Bosh didn't kill a healthy Bulls squad the one time where people legitimately thought the Bulls could win it all?
That nikka was putting up a higher ppg average then our mvp while shooting well over 50%, not to mention the fukking stats that you posted disproves your entire post - LeBron still got his at the end of the day and they still lost handedly vs the Spurs. So yeah nikka, who cares about guarding LeBron if the sum of your parts aren't greater than the other team's to begin with.
Look at your garbage ass rep that you got from making garbage ass posts and you talking about not taking somebody serious
? Look at the contract you posted. It TOPS out at max at 10 million a year. Not no 15 mill, per year or the max that's been tossed around in this thread. You probably want to give Jimmy a big contract, so the Bulls won't have enough money to properly build around Rose, which will enable you to continue your acts of fakkitry with anything involving Rose.
I haven't seen anyone in this thread say the Bulls should give Jimmy the max.Look at your garbage ass rep that you got from making garbage ass posts and you talking about not taking somebody serious
People, including me are saying lock him up now for 8-10, because if you don't, someone's gonna offer him 13-15M and we'll probably let him walk for nothing.
god shamgod
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I said window to win a title
Your reading comprehension is terrible just like yo fukked up ass lining man shut da fukk up
I don't have beef with that figure (altho god sham has said he'd be gucci with giving him 11 per), what I have a problem with is the latter part of your post - what other teams will offer him. I don't give a fukk about another team offering him that. As long as it ain't the Bulls.
I said window to win a title
Like I said, you should still have them the favorites this year since they have plenty of offense as you put it And you wish your hair could look like this with 8 weeks worth of hair with no line up. Speaking of line up, your man crush CP3 shyt is dissappearing quicker than his window to win anything worthwhile in the NBA
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beenz
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So if Butler wants 9-10M we just let him go, continue the Bulls formula of letting talent go in search of the second star we've been trying to get since 2009
Even if we let him go, we're not gonna have cap space for 2 years, so it's not like we can let him go and then go sign a max guy this upcoming summer.
Derozan makes just under $10M a season. I can't justify paying jimmy more than him.