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Like what?

And how am I lying when I said Destiny worked at launch. The game never released 'broken' and has always been fully functional.
Did they not remove content with the release of taken king? I never said the game was broken.

You compared it to bf4, and it's not a valid comparison. BF4 being broken isn't the same as destiny releasing with content missing just so u could pay more for it later and it's not the same as removing content to push you to pay another 50$.
 

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Did they not remove content with the release of taken king? I never said the game was broken.

You compared it to bf4, and it's not a valid comparison. BF4 being broken isn't the same as destiny releasing with content missing just so u could pay more for it later and it's not the same as removing content to push you to pay another 50$.
Give an example of what you're talking about then.

What did they remove from Destiny that you had to pay for in later DLC to play?
 

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This is the removed content.

  • Daily, Weekly heroic and nightfall missions are all gated off and are level 40.
  • All Vendor gear is now locked, old vendor gear is gone completely.The only gear that you can buy is from your Vanguard mentor are uncommons with few perks and only some with 170 defence ratings.
  • The Vanguard Legacy playlist is a shadow of what the old Vanguard strike playlists were, providing paltry rewards and seemingly no legendary gear.
  • All “Kill Objective” missions while patrolling lead to Taken, who you are unable to kill due to the high level difference. This effectively renders them unbeatable unless you have a fire team member who owns the expansion.
  • Crucible now only lets you select between random 3v3 or 6v6 match types.
  • Level select on missions is gone, you can only do the mission on the default difficulty.
  • The wandering wolf packs are gone, along with being able to level up Queens Wrath other than grind story missions.
  • Doesn’t seem like there’s a way to earn Legendary Marks, so you can’t purchase planetary materials.
  • All of Eris’ bounties are gone, and her item selection has been culled.
 

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This is the removed content.
I don't need to google anything, I played the game for like a year and half. Almost every day.

The only stuff that you can say was 'removed' were timed events that everybody knew was seasonal. Like when it's October and Halloween, they have a questline where you can get masks and shyt. Or the Sparrow Racing League shyt. Stuff that's not really a core feature at all. And Fatboi, the list of stuff you posted is moreso what happens when they revamp the currency system with a new update. Or when they drop new DLC MP maps.

They shift the playlist up some. So the Legacy Maps will be in a separate playlist and then the reg playlists will feature the new stuff. The game is live and always evolving tho, and they give everybody the previous released DLC maps whenever new shyt drops. No strikes, raids, MP modes were taken out of the game and then reintroduced like what is being implied.
 

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I don't need to google anything, I played the game for like a year and half. Almost every day.

The only stuff that you can say was 'removed' were timed events that everybody knew was seasonal. Like when it's October and Halloween, they have a questline where you can get masks and shyt. Or the Sparrow Racing League shyt. Stuff that's not really a core feature at all. And Fatboi, the list of stuff you posted is moreso what happens when they revamp the currency system with a new update. Or when they drop new DLC MP maps.

They shift the playlist up some. So the Legacy Maps will be in a separate playlist and then the reg playlists will feature the new stuff. The game is live and always evolving tho, and they give everybody the previous released DLC maps whenever new shyt drops. No strikes, raids, MP modes were taken out of the game and then reintroduced like what is being implied.
when the taken king launched, they themselves said that certain aspects of the game will be changed.

Updated earlier this week, a support page on Bungie’s Help website is titled ‘How Is Destiny changing if I don’t purchase Destiny: The Taken King?’

In the post, Bungie explains that, while The Taken King isn’t required to continue playing Destiny, “there are certain aspects of the game that are tied to Destiny being a living world, where certain portions of the game will advance and contain new content.”

Essentially, owners of Destiny who don’t upgrade to The Taken King for $39.99 (or $59.99 inside the Legendary Edition) will be unable to access certain content, such as Bounties from the first two expansions or Year 1 Legendary items.

Here’s a list of changes that affect Destiny owners who haven’t boughtThe Taken King:

  • Character Level is set at a maximum of 34
  • Strikes & Raid Activities are only available via the Destinations using the Director
  • Daily Heroic Missions, Weekly Heroic Strikes, and Nightfall Featured Activities will be set beyond level 34
  • Only the following Crucible modes will be available: Classic 3v3, Classic 6v6 and Classic Free-For-All
  • Only Year 1 versions of Exotic Weapons & Armor will be available
  • Tower Vendors will no longer sell Year 1 Legendary items
  • Bounties that were part of Expansion 1 (The Dark Below) or 2 (House of Wolves) are no longer available
  • Legendary Marks will not be available to be earned
Didn't Buy the Taken King? Bungie Reveals All the Content Destiny Year One Owners Are Unable to Access

So essentially stuff was locked out from people who didn't upgrade at the time.
The first two expansions didn't have this happen from what I believe. I remember hearing about this when TTK launched. :yeshrug:
 

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I'll probably get on later tonight. Two of my coworkers been telling me to get The Taken King for like a year now :skip:.
You're a lucky boy, so much piff awaits....

I can help out with the Oryx raid as of when you eventually get there if 4 other Coli brehs get involved
 

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destiny 1 got boring fast so i didn't bother with the taken king or any other DLC but seems like i missed out on good stuff from what ppl are saying about it. seems like Bungie got it right so i'm definitely getting destiny 2.
 

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So essentially stuff was locked out from people who didn't upgrade at the time.
The first two expansions didn't have this happen from what I believe. I remember hearing about this when TTK launched.
Exactly,

And I bought the game at launch and then bought ttk because they removed so much shyt it was like you were playing a demo without the game.

@GoldenGlove wanna act like he's the only one that bought the game. I know what I'm talking about breh.
 

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when the taken king launched, they themselves said that certain aspects of the game will be changed.


Didn't Buy the Taken King? Bungie Reveals All the Content Destiny Year One Owners Are Unable to Access

So essentially stuff was locked out from people who didn't upgrade at the time.
The first two expansions didn't have this happen from what I believe. I remember hearing about this when TTK launched. :yeshrug:
I don't remember the specifics but I do remember that the day one players got snuffed pretty bad when TTK dropped, especially the players that originally bought the season pass.
Didn't effect me at all because I got the OG version for $20 and got TTK for $10 or $20.
 

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when the taken king launched, they themselves said that certain aspects of the game will be changed.


Didn't Buy the Taken King? Bungie Reveals All the Content Destiny Year One Owners Are Unable to Access

So essentially stuff was locked out from people who didn't upgrade at the time.
The first two expansions didn't have this happen from what I believe. I remember hearing about this when TTK launched. :yeshrug:

Exactly,

And I bought the game at launch and then bought ttk because they removed so much shyt it was like you were playing a demo without the game.

@GoldenGlove wanna act like he's the only one that bought the game. I know what I'm talking about breh.
Nothing you are posting is matching up to what @5n0man is saying.

The Taken King was a huge expansion that changed the game and revamped the UI and currency system in the game. That's not removing shyt/locking shyt or removing it. Yal don't understand this on the same level as someone like me who literally didn't play anything else besides Destiny for a year straight.

The bullet points was going over changes from Year 1 to Year 2. For example, the shyt about Year 1 Exotic Weapons and Legendary stuff not being available for Year 2 means that in the new content/DLC you will not get old shyt dropping. All of those Year 1 guns/weapons/gear are still in the game, and you can still get it, but it's pointless because certain guns didn't get a Year 2 version. So it couldn't be upgraded to complete shyt in the End Game. However, in regular MP matches you can still use that stuff and there's no drop off.

And this was the case with every DLC. The loot table would change, but all of the old stuff would still be in the game and it would still drop if you're doing the old activities.

Day 1 people felt some kind of way, because all the shyt they accumulated over the year was being phased out, but once the new system came out people realized it wasn't anything to bytch about, because if you had the Year 1 version of a Year 2 gun, once you have the Marks to unlock it again, you could. I already know that I'm going way too much in detail about this to people who won't even understand, but I'm just trying to clarify this shyt.

And you're comment about new DLC being locked out to people who don't upgrade is common sense. Isn't that how it is in every single game? If you don't have access to the newly released DLC, then of course you can't play it.
:what:

 

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Nothing you are posting is matching up to what @5n0man is saying.

The Taken King was a huge expansion that changed the game and revamped the UI and currency system in the game. That's not removing shyt/locking shyt or removing it. Yal don't understand this on the same level as someone like me who literally didn't play anything else besides Destiny for a year straight.

The bullet points was going over changes from Year 1 to Year 2. For example, the shyt about Year 1 Exotic Weapons and Legendary stuff not being available for Year 2 means that in the new content/DLC you will not get old shyt dropping. All of those Year 1 guns/weapons/gear are still in the game, and you can still get it, but it's pointless because certain guns didn't get a Year 2 version. So it couldn't be upgraded to complete shyt in the End Game. However, in regular MP matches you can still use that stuff and there's no drop off.

And this was the case with every DLC. The loot table would change, but all of the old stuff would still be in the game and it would still drop if you're doing the old activities.

Day 1 people felt some kind of way, because all the shyt they accumulated over the year was being phased out, but once the new system came out people realized it wasn't anything to bytch about, because if you had the Year 1 version of a Year 2 gun, once you have the Marks to unlock it again, you could. I already know that I'm going way too much in detail about this to people who won't even understand, but I'm just trying to clarify this shyt.

And you're comment about new DLC being locked out to people who don't upgrade is common sense. Isn't that how it is in every single game? If you don't have access to the newly released DLC, then of course you can't play it.
:what:
Man Idk I didn't follow Destiny but it seemed to be a big uproar about this being no longer free and needing TTK. I remember booting it up once and some activities were greyed out. I don't care as I know own everything but I don't think so many people were venting about the situation if it was simply a misunderstanding :yeshrug:
 

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Man Idk I didn't follow Destiny but it seemed to be a big uproar about this being no longer free and needing TTK. I remember booting it up once and some activities were greyed out. I don't care as I know own everything but I don't think so many people were venting about the situation if it was simply a misunderstanding :yeshrug:
The only shyt that was 'greyed' out was TTK content or other DLC content that you didn't have... just like any other game in existence
 

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The only shyt that was 'greyed' out was TTK content or other DLC content that you didn't have... just like any other game in existence
Wrong.

  • Daily, Weekly heroic and nightfall missions are all gated off. Now it's not to say that these won't cycle through to older missions, but bungie seems to have set the new game to 'only level 40' mode, so who's to say that next week won't be undying mind with a level 40 requirement slapped on it?
  • All Vendor gear is now locked, old vendor gear is gone completely and I'd assume unobtainable. The only gear that you can buy is from your vanguard mentor- uncommons with few perks and only some with 170 defense ratings.
  • The vanguard legacy playlist is a shadow of what the old vanguard strike playlists were, providing paltry rewards and seemingly no legendary gear- compared to what you could do two weeks ago.
  • All "kill objective" missions while patrolling lead to Taken, who you are unable to kill due to the high level difference. This effectively renders them unbeatable unless you have a fire team member who owns the expansion.
  • crucible now only lets you select between random 3v3 or 6v6 match types, which is paltry compared, again, to what you could do two weeks ago.
  • Level select on missions is gone, you can only do the mission on the default difficulty- this devalues content even as there are legacy quests being re implemented to give gear with 2.0
  • the wandering wolf packs are gone, along with being able to level up queens wrath (at least I haven't found any way besides grinding the story missions endlessly).
  • Doesn't seem like there's a way to earn legendary marks, so you can't purchase planetary materials. Back to farming Venus for some more spirit bloom, then.
  • all Eris bounties are gone, and her item selection has been culled (so that's what, half of the dark below?)
Wrong.

Not sure what you're getting at but we're not dumb. I know the difference between new content being greyed out and previous content being locked out.

If DLC for Battlefield came out and because of that, you can't play Rush anymore unlesss you upgrade, wouldn't you say that's locking out content?? It was there before. When new DLC comes out in other games, old content isn't removed. Map packs in virtually every shooter doesn't effectively remove some old maps and put them away in a new DLC playlist. Nobody is complaining they couldn't get TTK content, they were complaining that the stuff they had access to day one was no longer there.

Imagine if Bloodborne's expansion DLC made it so that it removed some old areas and bosses from the original game.. people would be like :what:?
 
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Nothing you are posting is matching up to what @5n0man is saying.

The Taken King was a huge expansion that changed the game and revamped the UI and currency system in the game. That's not removing shyt/locking shyt or removing it. Yal don't understand this on the same level as someone like me who literally didn't play anything else besides Destiny for a year straight.

The bullet points was going over changes from Year 1 to Year 2. For example, the shyt about Year 1 Exotic Weapons and Legendary stuff not being available for Year 2 means that in the new content/DLC you will not get old shyt dropping. All of those Year 1 guns/weapons/gear are still in the game, and you can still get it, but it's pointless because certain guns didn't get a Year 2 version. So it couldn't be upgraded to complete shyt in the End Game. However, in regular MP matches you can still use that stuff and there's no drop off.

And this was the case with every DLC. The loot table would change, but all of the old stuff would still be in the game and it would still drop if you're doing the old activities.

Day 1 people felt some kind of way, because all the shyt they accumulated over the year was being phased out, but once the new system came out people realized it wasn't anything to bytch about, because if you had the Year 1 version of a Year 2 gun, once you have the Marks to unlock it again, you could. I already know that I'm going way too much in detail about this to people who won't even understand, but I'm just trying to clarify this shyt.

And you're comment about new DLC being locked out to people who don't upgrade is common sense. Isn't that how it is in every single game? If you don't have access to the newly released DLC, then of course you can't play it.
:what:
You know damn well I'm not talking about dlc content being locked.

I'm talking about not being able to do things like weekly strikes being unavailable after ttk because they mixed the playlist together instead of having separate playlist for people that didn't have the dlc.

If I bought the game today without the dlc, I wouldn't be able to do some of the shyt I could when it first released
 
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