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i hope bungie sticks to their guns about what they want the game to be and just make tweaks to that, and not listen to gamers a lot cause gamers dont know what they want and just complain to complain....the same gamers complaining about pvp being more about gunplay and a teamshot game, are the same ones that wanted that shyt and complained d1 was too much space magic....the same gamers that want random rolls back are the same ones from d1 that complained when they died cause of *insert random perk*....the same ones complaining about the raid not offering different gear/weapons for prestige must didnt do the hard mode for d1 raids cause you didnt get different shyt in those, you got a different color of shyt, but that was about it....

seriously, people looking back on d1 like it was this perfect game and it wasnt...the shyt was fun as hell, but it was broken like a muthafukka....not saying d2 is perfect cause it's not and there are things i'd like them to change (bring back 6v6, even if it's for special events; make the raid the way to get to highest light; etc), but d2 is at a better starting point than d1 was when it first dropped....and just how i gave bungie through the first 2 dlcs to address d1, i'll do the same for d2...
 

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i hope bungie sticks to their guns about what they want the game to be and just make tweaks to that, and not listen to gamers a lot cause gamers dont know what they want and just complain to complain....

there are things i'd like them to change (bring back 6v6, even if it's for special events; make the raid the way to get to highest light; etc),

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but d2 is at a better starting point than d1 was when it first dropped....and just how i gave bungie through the first 2 dlcs to address d1, i'll do the same for d2...
D1 had 3 years of iterations and DLCs, why do you shills keep referencing Vanilla D1:mindblown:
 

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D1 had 3 years of iterations and DLCs, why do you shills keep referencing Vanilla D1:mindblown:

nothing about what i said is contradicting....them sticking to their vision and me asking for shyt is just that: me saying they should stick to their vision and make tweaks, and me just asking for shyt i'd personally like...which is different from what you and others are doing trashing them and the game cause it's not exactly what yall want....

shills? lol that's exactly why i dont have the convo with people no more....if you dont agree with them and bash bungie/the game, they call you fanboys, shills, or whatever bullshyt name....no, we just dont think alike...

as for why i compare it to vanilla d1: that's cause this is the foundation for what will become the complete game of d2 just like that was the foundation for d1.....to compare d2 in its current state to basically a game of the year edition of d1 (ROI) makes no sense and is unrealistic....there is no way a base game is gonna have the same amount of content as a 3 year old game with 4 dlcs, yet people expecting that to be the case....the game is technically better than all of d1, it's just lacking content and freedom of some choices compared to all of d1.....but even then, compared to vanilla d1, d2 has more content, including pvp modes, but since people dont get to see the modes & pick them for themselves, they act like that's not the case....

...it's whatever though.....you dont like the game, that's cool...never said you nor anyone that doesnt like it has to, yall only play for yallselves....
 

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nothing about what i said is contradicting....them sticking to their vision and me asking for shyt is just that: me saying they should stick to their vision and make tweaks, and me just asking for shyt i'd personally like...which is different from what you and others are doing trashing them and the game cause it's not exactly what yall want....

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I'm trashing the game because it's trash, a stance held by a lot of players who've played Destiny since it's 1st iteration.

Trash PvP, trash raid, trash pve activities. You won't find a post of me shytting on D1 because despite whatever flaws it had it was consistently the most fun you could have on console. D2 is a handheld snoozefest in comparison.
 

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I'm trashing the game because it's trash, a stance held by a lot of players who've played Destiny since it's 1st iteration.

Trash PvP, trash raid, trash pve activities. You won't find a post of me shytting on D1 because despite whatever flaws it had it was consistently the most fun you could have on console. D2 is a handheld snoozefest in comparison.

knew that was coming next....that's another thing cats say when you dont agree 'i've been here since the beginning' lol....that's cool, but guess what? me too...and i'm pretty sure if we compared stats, i probably played d1 more than you, and that includes not playing it from the beginning of this year till d2 dropping....

anyway, like i said: you just dont like it....that's cool...i enjoy the game, and that's cool too.....

what's funny: i actually agree with you that compared to d1's pvp, d2's is a snoozefest....d1 was a broken & hectic mess that was a lot of fun.....d2 is balanced & polished, but is less fun compared to d1....but this is what twitch/youtube players asked for...they wanted the game to play more like other fps, be more about guns and less space magic, so bungie listened and gave them what they wanted....but now that they cant do montages as easy, they upset....lol fukk that.....this what they asked for.....that's why i said bungie shouldnt listen to all that crying now, say fukk it, and just make tweaks to their vision...

ironically: those same twitch/youtubers that complain about the game, are still using the game to generate views...i say that cause all they do now is make vids complaining about the game lol...not only that, when they play d2, people still come to watch them play it...
 

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anyway, like i said: you just dont like it....that's cool...i enjoy the game, and that's cool too.....
Agreed

ironically: those same twitch/youtubers that complain about the game, are still using the game to generate views.
This is incorrect however, Destiny streamers are struggling, views are down across the board and a lot are streaming other games, specifically Fortnite & Pubg
 

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Agreed


This is incorrect however, Destiny streamers are struggling, views are down across the board and a lot are streaming other games, specifically Fortnite & Pubg

i dont know about struggling...outta the ones i peep, most tend to do the same numbers no matter the game; while some do more with d2.....most of the ones that dont stream d2 like they did d1 is cause they dont like and/or bored with the game, but it's not cause of the views....

fortnite has become popular as shyt...i have it downloaded, havent fired it up yet though...i dont understand the hype about pubg...i've seen that game and it does nothing more me....nothing about it makes me want to play it....
 

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i hope bungie sticks to their guns about what they want the game to be and just make tweaks to that, and not listen to gamers a lot cause gamers dont know what they want and just complain to complain....the same gamers complaining about pvp being more about gunplay and a teamshot game
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Yeah, and if they ignore the community the game will be dead

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I don't remember anybody saying they wanted a teamshot fest in Destiny PVP. People complained about special ammo and heavy, but Bungie went full retard and did dumb ass shyt like make snipers and shotties heavy weapons completely neutering 2 play styles that were fun and entertaining in D1.

They could have balanced the game in so many ways, but they just said fukk it, we gonna fukk up PVP and hope it works out for PVE too :mjgrin:
 

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Yeah, and if they ignore the community the game will be dead

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I don't remember anybody saying they wanted a teamshot fest in Destiny PVP. People complained about special ammo and heavy, but Bungie went full retard and did dumb ass shyt like make snipers and shotties heavy weapons completely neutering 2 play styles that were fun and entertaining in D1.

They could have balanced the game in so many ways, but they just said fukk it, we gonna fukk up PVP and hope it works out for PVE too :mjgrin:

that's the same shyt people said throughout d1, and yet the game lasted 3 years....what's funny about that is people would say 'bungie needs to listen to the community', and all throughout d1 that's what they did when they made changes, and yet people still complained and blamed bungie cause it wasnt what they wanted...sounds similar to what's happening in d2 so far....

yea, those play styles were fun, but that was the very shyt people complained about...people were tired of cats running around with shottys and snipers....but now since we cant do that in d2, people complaining lol....just like: people complained about too much space magic in d1, are now complaining about lack of it in d2....people complained about random perks giving people unfair advantages and how it was boring to have to do certain activities over and over to get 'god roll' weapons, are now complaining about the guns having the same perks and not grinding for 'god rolls'.....muthafukkas just wanna complain to complain...
 

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So the new xp system takes longer to level up I was I’m gathering and things like crucible raid will level up more points cuz playtime is longer
Does that include nightfall and strike tho
I know public event grind it seems u get less xp tho
 

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Yeah, and if they ignore the community the game will be dead

:russ:


I don't remember anybody saying they wanted a teamshot fest in Destiny PVP. People complained about special ammo and heavy, but Bungie went full retard and did dumb ass shyt like make snipers and shotties heavy weapons completely neutering 2 play styles that were fun and entertaining in D1.

They could have balanced the game in so many ways, but they just said fukk it, we gonna fukk up PVP and hope it works out for PVE too :mjgrin:
They basically took sniping completely out of the game. fusions and the raid shotty make more sense in pvp. pve is mostly rockets. all the exotic snipers are pure garbage, without even comparing them to Icebreaker, Black Spindle, or even No Land Beyond and Queensbreakers Bow
Bungie have cancelled tomorrow's livestream :skip:, bunch of clowns :beli:
and the big wigs are gonna take that time to address some of the current issues later apparently. they saw most gamers reaction to the last stream was underwhelming and was like why bother showing em so more disappointing stuff that doesn't actually fix the problems
 
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