Deontay Wilder vs Dominc Breazeale Terrible Viewing Figures

[The Ruler 09]

"They only sold 6000 tickets and the ratings were terrible" 3.10



Apparently Eddie has been told only 6000 tickets were sold, if that's the case that's shockingly low, I knew it might not sell out but never would have imagined it could be that low.

Also Wilder has been invited to the AJ fight to try push for the fight but he's turned it down.

 

[The Ruler 09]

More on the poor viewing figures and poor gate, apparently the upper tier wasn't even open, apparently 11 thousand was announced but only 6 thousand sold.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Spoke to somebody who worked the event and they said it really did only sell 6 thousand tickets, that's shocking. Wilder should thank himself lucky to get 20 percent vs AJ, anywhere AJ went in the world would sell more than 6 thousand. He's been able to sell out 90 thousand and Wilder in his own country can only sell 6 thousand? That's abysmal.

 

[malbaker86]

he's never unified, if he actually challenged himself and had the big fights with them boxing WOULD be a lot more popular cause Wilder could be the unified champ right now and not AJ, THAT'S the whole problem and issue, Wilder and/or his team have refused to challenge themselves for the most part and have cherry picked opponents 95 percent of the time. He's older than AJ yet has NEVER unified or been in a unification bout, AJ beat 3 people to win his titles, and won each belt because he had the nuts to go in there and fight for it, Wilder is older yet never once tried to unify, that tells it's own story, can't argue with facts.

I fool with Wilder but this is facts. After Charles Martin "won" his belt on the Wilder-Szpilka undercard, Wilder and them should have thrown the bag at Martin to get that belt off of him and not allow Hearn and them to "buy" it off Martin. Could of had the second belt then. OK, say they couldn't have gotten the belt then...well they should have been on the first flight to New Zealand when Parker won that belt (remember Parker and Wilder was talking about a potential fight after Wilder beat Gerald Washington and Parker was in the locker room) but they let that chance to unify go away and down the line, AJ and team came in and unified.....a whole year later. Dropped the ball

 

[The Ruler 09]

I fool with Wilder but this is facts. After Charles Martin "won" his belt on the Wilder-Szpilka undercard, Wilder and them should have thrown the bag at Martin to get that belt off of him and not allow Hearn and them to "buy" it off Martin. Could of had the second belt then. OK, say they couldn't have gotten the belt then...well they should have been on the first flight to New Zealand when Parker won that belt (remember Parker and Wilder was talking about a potential fight after Wilder beat Gerald Washington and Parker was in the locker room) but they let that chance to unify go away and down the line, AJ and team came in and unified.....a whole year later. Dropped the ball

Same, I like Wilder as a fighter too, I'm just tired and frustrated with the ducking plus the fake talk/posturing. It's not very honorable to keep calling people p*ssy's and cowards and then reject the fight multiple times, at this point everything he says seems like bullshyt, filled and littered with contradictions. Yeah exactly, that's what I'm saying, they refuse to have him challenge himself and want to constantly cherry pick while talking a big game and insulting others. How can you be 33 (34 later in the year) and have only 2 notable fights? Yet claim he's the greatest, it's embarrassing how much better AJ's record is considering he's younger and had far less fights. He should want to correct that and go do his thing but instead he's delaying, rambling and making excuses, all while fronting the whole time, throwing rocks then hiding when it comes down to actually fighting. And his legion of dikkriders being so incredibly delusional doesn't help and only worsens the situation and allows it to continue. As boxing fans people should be putting the pressure on to try and get these big fights not sucking fighters off for rejecting fights that would be by far their biggest paydays and for a chance to make history too as an undisputed heavyweight champion. He could have fought Martin, could have fought Parker, but they bullshyted, that's the difference between him and AJ, AJ is about action which his record shows, Wilder is about talking a big game but doesn't have the record or belts to back it up, he's had 2 notable fights and "drew" 1 of them (even though the majority of the world thinks he lost) yet he wants to go on like he's the reincarnation of Tyson, Ali, Foreman, Liston, Lewis and so on all in 1. If you are prove it then.... Yeah, AJ came through and put in the action to win the belts, he even fought an all time world class fighter in Wlad, which was by far his toughest fight, Wlad was in great shape for that fight and would have beaten nearly anybody at that time, it's 1 of the best fights I've ever seen, I was still judging AJ at that point, but that fight he really staked his claim and it was fantastic, he's subsequently done very well too, he seems the main man that goes after everyone too, he's made offers to both Fury, Wilder, Whyte, his actions speak for themselves so I can't help but respect that and how he's willing to risk it all by challenging himself and fighting the best, he badly wants this Wilder fight, Wilder himself has said AJ is begging for the fight and is desperate for it, and he's right, AJ desperately wants to become undisputed champion, it's a shame Wilder doesn't. It's AJ's dream though, that's what he's worked his whole career to try to achieve. It just seems a real shame to deny the fans and sport this fight, because the way they seem to be playing it there's a big risk that this fight gets spoilt before it happens, either 1 losing, vacating, it happening too late when they're not in their primes, something fukking it up, why not do it now, it would spur the whole boxing world on. Nobody wants to see Wilder vs Ortiz again or Kownacki ahead of the AJ fight, it's suspect cause he would have taken the Fury fight before rematching Ortiz or any of that, but with AJ he's trying to delay it and delay it....

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

The Ruler 09 going extra hard for WPOTY...

His Wilder hate and spin agenda got him in the lead by a wide margin right now...

Son posting up walls of text all nonsense nobody reading...

 

[The Ruler 09]

The Ruler 09 going extra hard for WPOTY...

His Wilder hate and spin agenda got him in the lead by a wide margin right now...

Son posting up walls of text all nonsense nobody reading...

There's no spin, everything I said is facts, only dikkriders get upset and mad about it.

 

[reservoirdogs]

As I see it:

I believe 1 and a half years ago it was Hearn and AJ who wanted the fight to marinate but Wilder's fans can't justify what Wilder's side is doing now with that. Marinating this fight while it was annoying even back then kinda made business sense cause Wilder got bigger since and they can do more money with it now than 1 and a half year ago. Some incompetent judges who awarded Wilder a draw against Fury were need to reach this point but that's where we stand now

but saying Wilder will only fight joshua if he gets a fair offer and etc... is BS and it's just said for the sake of shytting on AJ and Hearn. Whether you like em or not 2X 40 millions to pay to Wilder is more than a fair offer, it's actually overpaying him (DAZN overpays almost everyone now) if you think about how not even Canelo is getting money like that. Last time I checked, Canelo's career high payday was 40millins, don't tell me it's not good enough for Wilder.

So I don't understand why Wilder and his team wanna go through them less interesting fights now, they were ballsy to fight Ortiz, it almost backfired but paid off at the end. Then I think they were less ballsy about Fury, I think there they thought he gonna be pudgy and rusty and Wilder adds a big name to his resume. Well this also almost backfired, having better judges it should have been backfired.

All that while Wilder is soon to be 34 and won't have much time to rebuild himself if he unexpectedly loses. Joshua is also in an age where he improves more and faster than Wilder at 33. So why Shelly Finkel and Wilder are so hell bent on fighting Ortiz again, Kownacki and whoever instead of just go straight to Joshua now?
It's not like Wilder will become mainstream on the back of beating Kownacki and Ortiz again. It's just unnecessary risk... and AJ's side pretty clearly wants the fight now.
So why not do it the end of this year?
I feel they are waiting to be in a better position and it will never come. When they fight Joshua is a matter of when Wilder can curb his ego on a way that he accepts he is the B side in this and that it's probably not Joshua who has to go to his house (FOX, Showtime) but he has to go over there (DAZN) as the most money is there.

 

[Emoryal]

All that

No one is reading yo long ass mad ass rant. Take yo L in peace CAC

 

[Black_Jesus]

Lol always switching the goalposts, none of that shyt matters, it's irrelevant the reasons why, what matters is the actual numbers. Over 1.5 million on PPV in a country that has a tiny population compared to U.S vs under a million for a non PPV show. Those numbers tell their own story, the reasons could be got into for years, none of that matters. what matters is the numbers and factually

LOL at you comparing AJs best numbers vs Klitchko to Wilders lowest numbers on Showtime where he only fought for 120 seconds and his viewers weren't able to build where it would easily go past a million like he did vs Stiverne twice and Ortiz.

Wilder doesn't do anywhere near the numbers AJ does and is not the draw AJ is as of yet. The only reason why this is even a topic is because Wilder and his team refuse the fight and want unfair splits when he's not on that level as a draw yet. AJ has boxed in front of 90 thousand people, Wilder isn't even close to that, not even in the ballpark. You're trying to debate facts, and it's not working. Anyway AJ has sold more tickets for the MSG show than Wilder did for his last show too and the tickets are 3 or 4 times the price, now your response is gonna be "Eddie buys all the tickets so it ain't real" so basically anything that doesn't suit your bias and ridiculous narrative you say it isn't real without any solid proof
so you can continue to spout nonsense. If you think they are going to buy all the tickets that's some next level weird delusion, I hope this is some kind of weird stanning obsession rather than a genuine medical condition.

you are clearly a naive idiot.. AJ isn't selling more tickets and it's already been brought to the light what him and Eddie Hearn were doing in the UK.. Frank Warren was one of the people that exposed it
, then as soon as UK put a stop to Hearn being able to do this before he fought Povetkin, this happened

Anthony Joshua vs Alexander Povetkin: Weather forces thousands of fans to stay away"

All of a sudden AJ ain't selling out.no more and they tried to blame it on the weather, but the truth was UK stopped Hearn from allowing 2nd/third part resellers from buying up all the tickets first..

So then AJ and Hearn crawls over to the US where they previously claimed they dont need to go, so that they continue with the false ticket scam that the US allows... All of a sudden AJ somehow breaks presale records at the garden before any ticket is available to for any fan to buy yet... So basically any ticket sells numbers that AJ and Hearn outs out isn't accurate because they include tickets bought by companies like StubHubs and SeatGeeks.. So if you really believe AJ sells tickets in America faster than MJ Prince, Beyonce, etc, then you truly are a dumb ass and probably a homosexual

Lol at boxing is not popular in America, if Wilder is such a big draw why isn't it popular then lol, makes no sense, he's been the champion for a while now, boxing wasn't popping in the U.K either but AJ came and changed that, he's not the only 1 of course but he was a big part of boxing's resurgence ,

Becasue in America we have baseball, basketfall, UFC, Football, and a bunch of other shyt like College sports, Golf. Hockey, etc..All UK has is Soccer, boxing, and darts lol... And if you were from this country(which you're obviously not so you shouldn't speak on it) then you would understand the market and that boxing is a niche sport where guys like Wilder are trying to build the HW scene back up to where it was in the 90s

Wilder tried fake calling AJ out to piggyback off AJ's name to raise his profile. He came to the AJ vs Wlad fight and was amazed, he said he wanted boxing in the U.S to be like that, he even dapped AJ up, then he went back to the U.S and started calling AJ a coward and that he's ducking him lmao.

He was called a coward because after his win when asked who you want next the coward called out Shannon Briggs and the 350lb version of Tyson Fury instead of another champion that's sitting right there in the crowd, and everybody saw on live TV Max Kellerman literally having to force AJ to make his mouth say the word Wil-Der

Even though I've never seen Wilder call him out prior and he wouldn't even fight the brothers while they were champs,

Never seen Wilder call out AJ prior?
Deontay Wilder wants to unify world titles against Anthony Joshua in 2017

And that's just one of MANY instances Wilder called out AJ BEFORE he fought Klitchko


Never tried to fight Klitchkos??
Deontay Wilder: I Could Beat Wladimir Klitschko Tomorrow

Too easy

Show me one instance Wlad ever attempted to fight Wilder..

he's never unified, if he actually challenged himself and had the big fights with them boxing WOULD be a lot more popular cause Wilder could be the unified champ right now and not AJ, THAT'S the whole problem and issue, Wilder and/or his team have refused to challenge themselves for the most part and have cherry picked opponents 95 percent of the time. He's older than AJ yet has NEVER unified or been in a unification bout, AJ beat 3 people to win his titles, and won each belt because he had the nuts to go in there and fight for it, Wilder is older yet never once tried to unify, that tells it's own story, can't argue with facts. So instead of gobbling Wilder and making excuses why not stop being his human shield and allow him to step up and challenge and become undisputed. It's ridiculous at his age he has 2 fights of note, both were cherry picked, an older Ortiz with blood pressure issues and an out of shape Fury coming off a 2 year layoff, Shelly himself said they thought they got Fury at the right time, they cherry picked him for a name on the record who was nowhere near ready for that fight and he still couldn't beat him. If Wilder had shown the fortitude to step up he could have been at least unified, there's no reason he couldn't have gone in and beaten Parker or Martin himself, but he didn't take the fights, if he had the splits wouldn't be an issue cause he would be the 1 with most or all of the belts, but he didn't, and that's 1 of several reasons he's the B side or at least should be realistically. Again can make as many excuses as you want but the facts speak for themselves. Wilder is a grown man and doesn't need male cheerleaders.

All lies, but I'm bout to address this in another post

 

[The Ruler 09]

LOL at you comparing AJs best numbers vs Klitchko to Wilders lowest numbers on Showtime where he only fought for 120 seconds and his viewers weren't able to build where it would easily go past a million like he did vs Stiverne twice and Ortiz.



you are clearly a naive idiot.. AJ isn't selling more tickets and it's already been brought to the light what him and Eddie Hearn were doing in the UK.. Frank Warren was one of the people that exposed it
, then as soon as UK put a stop to Hearn being able to do this before he fought Povetkin, this happened



All of a sudden AJ ain't selling out.no more and they tried to blame it on the weather, but the truth was UK stopped Hearn from allowing 2nd/third part resellers from buying up all the tickets first..

So then AJ and Hearn crawls over to the US where they previously claimed they dont need to go, so that they continue with the false ticket scam that the US allows... All of a sudden AJ somehow breaks presale records at the garden before any ticket is available to for any fan to buy yet... So basically any ticket sells numbers that AJ and Hearn outs out isn't accurate because they include tickets bought by companies like StubHubs and SeatGeeks.. So if you really believe AJ sells tickets in America faster than MJ Prince, Beyonce, etc, then you truly are a dumb ass and probably a homosexual


Becasue in America we have baseball, basketfall, UFC, Football, and a bunch of other shyt like College sports, Golf. Hockey, etc..All UK has is Soccer, boxing, and darts lol... And if you were from this country(which you're obviously not so you shouldn't speak on it) then you would understand the market and that boxing is a niche sport where guys like Wilder are trying to build the HW scene back up to where it was in the 90s



He was called a coward because after his win when asked who you want next the coward called out Shannon Briggs and the 350lb version of Tyson Fury instead of another champion that's sitting right there in the crowd, and everybody saw on live TV Max Kellerman literally having to force AJ to make his mouth say the word Wil-Der


Never seen Wilder call out AJ prior?
Deontay Wilder wants to unify world titles against Anthony Joshua in 2017

And that's just one of MANY instances Wilder called out AJ BEFORE he fought Klitchko


Never tried to fight Klitchkos??
Deontay Wilder: I Could Beat Wladimir Klitschko Tomorrow

Too easy

Show me one instance Wlad ever attempted to fight Wilder..




All lies, but I'm bout to address this in another post

I was comparing because that was the fight that was brought up. It's irrelevant, AJ vs Povetkin did over 1.1 million ppv buys, AJ vs Parker did over 1.4 million buys, Wilder didn't do a million NON PPV.

You posted a video from Frank Warren? Lmao, Frank is always going at Eddie, they like arch rivals. You are the naive and gullible 1 if you think they are going to buy all the tickets, it's fantasy.

Wilder says a lot of bullshyt, but he doesn't actually do it, if he says he could have beat Wlad easy why didn't he then? Anybody can say whatever they like, all meaningless until proved. As I said he's 33 and had 2 notable fights, 1 against an older Ortiz with blood pressure issues and 1 vs Fury which the world thought he lost but he got a draw. So in his whole career thus far he has 1 notable win against a good opponent being kind to him.

It's a lie that Wilder isn't unified? So you believe he's the unified champion now? You probably believe he's undisputed and has all the belts too don't you? Wouldn't be surprised with your level of delusion, it's laughable.

If you think Wilder does more numbers than AJ viewing wise or ticket sales then what can be said to you? You're just denying indisputable facts. It's pretty much you're his ride or die side piece so gonna cape no matter what facts there are or what he does.

The fight is there for him to take, I hope he takes it, but he keeps rejecting it over and over again, his biggest purse thus far is max 10 mil yet he's turning down a deal worth 120 mil.... something's not right about that, people act like the shyt is gonna be his only pay day, not at all, after those fights he can still fight and make big money if he wants to. But he'd have 120 mil on top of what he's earned in his career thus far, that 1 deal would have been more than everything he's earned thus far put together yet he turned it down. #ducksquad

 

[The Ruler 09]

Fickel said Wilder was "just a baby" 4 years ago when he would have been 29 (the same age AJ is now by the way and he's fought multiple unification bouts years ago)...

Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko, Says Finkel

Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko, Says Finkel

By Edward Chaykovsky

WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (33-0, 32KOs) is still very much a work in progress, says his co-manager Shelly Finkel. After last Saturday's world title win over Bermane Stiverne, the hype began growing for a fight between Wilder and WBO/WBA/IBO/IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko.

Finkel, who manages Wilder with Al Haymon and Jay Deas, also works closely with Klitschko.

He says there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills.

“Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.”

One fight that could happen this year is a match against unbeaten EBU/British champion Tyson Fury.

 

[The Ruler 09]

AJ was the 1 who actually stepped up and had the unification fights, Wilder wanted to pretend to be a 29 year old "baby" apparently. It paid off for AJ taking those challenges and risks and that's why he's in the position he's in.

 

[Black_Jesus]

None of that shyt @The Ruler 09 posted was facts.. It was all lies.. The idea that Wilder never attempted to unify is something a liar and a homosexual would make up to bash the brother

I fool with Wilder but this is facts. After Charles Martin "won" his belt on the Wilder-Szpilka undercard, Wilder and them should have thrown the bag at Martin to get that belt off of him and not allow Hearn and them to "buy" it off Martin. Could of had the second belt then.

Did you forget Wilder already had an agreement with the WBC to face his Mandatory Povertkin next after the Spilka fight.. And the only reason he faced Szpilka 1st was because Povetkin opted to face Wach 1st before satisfying the mando fight with Wilder and there was no other good available fights for Wilder at the tine. Fury and Wlad were both tied up for a rematch with the other 3 belts before the IBF got stripped.. Remember Povetkin was the same guy everyone was claiming Wilder was ducking so just imagine the backlash Wilder gets if he tries to avoid Povertkin(which the WBC wasn't gonna allow) to face some paper champion bum instead..

OK, say they couldn't have gotten the belt then...well they should have been on the first flight to New Zealand when Parker won that belt (remember Parker and Wilder was talking about a potential fight after Wilder beat Gerald Washington and Parker was in the locker room) but they let that chance to unify go away and down the line, AJ and team came in and unified.....a whole year later. Dropped the ball

How can you blame Wilder for letting the fight get away when they tried to make the fight happen and Parker PROUDLY ducked that fight??
Parker opted to fight Hughie Fury his mando.. Cool nothing wrong with Parker fighting is mando.. But then Fury pulled out the fight and Parker decided to face some sparring Partner named Cojanu.. then after that he opts to face Hughie Fury insteas again and after that is calling out Toney Bellew and hoping to get a fight with AJ... Them dudes were never gonna fight Wilder but do they get held to the same standard?? Nah

Parkers own promoter even says they weren't gonna entertain a fight with Wilder until after they face AJ.. WHY??

"People have been asking why don't we make a unification with Deontay Wilder. For us it's simple: Anthony Joshua is the softer of the two.
Joseph Parker's promoter reveals why they want to fight Joshua before facing Wilder

 

[Black_Jesus]

Fickel said Wilder was "just a baby" 4 years ago when he would have been 29 (the same age AJ is now by the way and he's fought multiple unification bouts years ago)...

Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko, Says Finkel

Wilder Will Not Be Rushed To Klitschko, Says Finkel

By Edward Chaykovsky

WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder (33-0, 32KOs) is still very much a work in progress, says his co-manager Shelly Finkel. After last Saturday's world title win over Bermane Stiverne, the hype began growing for a fight between Wilder and WBO/WBA/IBO/IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko.

Finkel, who manages Wilder with Al Haymon and Jay Deas, also works closely with Klitschko.

He says there is no need to rush Wilder into big fights against the best of the division; that despite a world title he still needs time to grow and groom his skills.

“Look, (Wilder) is a baby winning the title. It was his first title fight, they'll be a time for unification, they'll be a time for all those things, he could go and Povetkin (the No. 2 contender) in Russia and make $10 million,” Finkel said to the Tuscaloosa News. “It's not the right thing yet. Give him a couple of fights, maybe bring something back to Alabama. Let him develop just like any other athlete. They don't take someone who is a great college prospect and throw him right in. And this kid is a great prospect.”

One fight that could happen this year is a match against unbeaten EBU/British champion Tyson Fury.

Finkel was Wlads manager.. You claimed Wilder was pretending to be a baby so post any article or YouTube clip of Wilder doing any of what you're claiming..