Democratic Party Rebuild

[Pull Up the Roots]

So it's "resenting the rich" to acknowledge the wealthy often pay lower tax rates than many workers and the game is rigged against workers? Is it "resenting the rich" to acknowledge stuff like buy borrow die shouldn't be allowed to exist?

I bet Trump saying he was going to get rid of taxes on overtime pay had more on an impact than all that transgender stuff.

Immigration isn't about culture wars it's about the perceived economic threat of the government giving handouts to illegal immigrants and them taking potential jobs from citizens.

You would likely lose that bet. I'm not arguing for appeasement here, nor am I of the belief that we should throw trans people under the bus. I am only challenging this single assertion, using what I've been reading since the end of the election.

While it's true that [bad] economic policies like getting rid of taxes overtime pay could have a direct impact on a workers financial well-being, it's important to not underestimate the profound effect that cultural issues, particularly trans rights, can have on certain voters. For example, I was reading about how many Teamsters union members voted for Trump because they were convinced that their children's futures were at risk from what they perceived as a "radical agenda" pushed by the Dems wrt the normalization of trans identities. This was a deeply personal fear about their "cultural" and "social" values being under attack.

Those working-class voters felt that Dem support for trans rights and the push for inclusive policies in schools and workplaces were a threat to their "traditional values," especially around gender and sexuality. It was a fear that their children could be "turned" into something they perceived as unnatural or harmful. Even though there's no factual basis for this fear. Trans identity isn't something that can be "imposed" on children. Anyway, the emotional and cultural impact of those concerns is profound. These cultural wars matter because they tap into deep-seated fears about identity, family, and the future. And to them, that takes precedence over "economic" issues.

It's crucial not to dismiss or downplay them as distractions or lesser concerns compared to economic policy. For many of these voters, particularly in the working class, these cultural issues are seen as existential threats to their "values" and to their way of life. I think economic issues matter, and I support making that the core "identity" of the party, but we need to also be honest that it isn't about economic issues alone for large swathes of this country. Culture wars hold real power. They're not just emotional or social distractions, they shape how a lot of people view their place in society and the world they want to leave to their children.

 

[John Reena]

Can’t be taking advice from Jamal Bowman, Nina Turner, Bernie FOR SURE. That’s like asking Charles Barkley the key to winning a championship

 

[Quiet]

You would likely lose that bet. I'm not arguing for appeasement here, nor am I of the belief that we should throw trans people under the bus. I am only challenging this single assertion, using what I've been reading since the end of the election.

While it's true that [bad] economic policies like getting rid of taxes overtime pay could have a direct impact on a workers financial well-being, it's important to not underestimate the profound effect that cultural issues, particularly trans rights, can have on certain voters. For example, I was reading about how many Teamsters union members voted for Trump because they were convinced that their children's futures were at risk from what they perceived as a "radical agenda" pushed by the Dems wrt the normalization of trans identities. This was a deeply personal fear about their "cultural" and "social" values being under attack.

Those working-class voters felt that Dem support for trans rights and the push for inclusive policies in schools and workplaces were a threat to their "traditional values," especially around gender and sexuality. It was a fear that their children could be "turned" into something they perceived as unnatural or harmful. Even though there's no factual basis for this fear. Trans identity isn't something that can be "imposed" on children. Anyway, the emotional and cultural impact of those concerns is profound. These cultural wars matter because they tap into deep-seated fears about identity, family, and the future. And to them, that takes precedence over "economic" issues.

It's crucial not to dismiss or downplay them as distractions or lesser concerns compared to economic policy. For many of these voters, particularly in the working class, these cultural issues are seen as existential threats to their "values" and to their way of life. I think economic issues matter, and I support making that the core "identity" of the party, but we need to also be honest that it isn't about economic issues alone for large swathes of this country. Culture wars hold real power. They're not just emotional or social distractions, they shape how a lot of people view their place in society and the world they want to leave to their children.

I haven’t seen a trans person this month and November is almost over. They shouldn’t be a topic. There’s not a enough of them for their bathroom rights to take down a whole party.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You would likely lose that bet. I'm not arguing for appeasement here, nor am I of the belief that we should throw trans people under the bus. I am only challenging this single assertion, using what I've been reading since the end of the election.

While it's true that [bad] economic policies like getting rid of taxes overtime pay could have a direct impact on a workers financial well-being, it's important to not underestimate the profound effect that cultural issues, particularly trans rights, can have on certain voters. For example, I was reading about how many Teamsters union members voted for Trump because they were convinced that their children's futures were at risk from what they perceived as a "radical agenda" pushed by the Dems wrt the normalization of trans identities. This was a deeply personal fear about their "cultural" and "social" values being under attack.

Those working-class voters felt that Dem support for trans rights and the push for inclusive policies in schools and workplaces were a threat to their "traditional values," especially around gender and sexuality. It was a fear that their children could be "turned" into something they perceived as unnatural or harmful. Even though there's no factual basis for this fear. Trans identity isn't something that can be "imposed" on children. Anyway, the emotional and cultural impact of those concerns is profound. These cultural wars matter because they tap into deep-seated fears about identity, family, and the future. And to them, that takes precedence over "economic" issues.

It's crucial not to dismiss or downplay them as distractions or lesser concerns compared to economic policy. For many of these voters, particularly in the working class, these cultural issues are seen as existential threats to their "values" and to their way of life. I think economic issues matter, and I support making that the core "identity" of the party, but we need to also be honest that it isn't about economic issues alone for large swathes of this country. Culture wars hold real power. They're not just emotional or social distractions, they shape how a lot of people view their place in society and the world they want to leave to their children.

sounds like I was right and you’re realizing that the stuff you thought was insignificant matters a lot to people in profound ways.

Look, if you can’t acknowledge what a man or woman is, then people dont listen to anything else you have to say. Period.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

What is your SOLUTION

LGBTQ+ issues are finished. Period.

We’ll have to take an L on identity politics too, to my chagrin personally but I think black voters are naturally checked out for the foreseeable future.

 

[the next guy]

LGBTQ+ issues are finished. Period.

We’ll have to take an L on identity politics too, to my chagrin personally but I think black voters are naturally checked out for the foreseeable future.

They should stop backing crappy candidates. Demanding a female black VP is/was a terrible idea. If the barbershop and salon are against it, you should be too.

Do people honestly think Kamala wins a primary?

 

[Tony D'Amato]

Appears they don't know how to handle ai. While trump will obviously have zero regulations

 

[winb83]

The Pod Save America interview is the last straw. This is not a serious party.

They're not serious about winning, they're not serious about governing, they're not serious about improving people's lives, and they're not serious about protecting marginalized groups, and they never will be.

This is the truth. The democrats exist to raise money from donors and serve them. If they can't win doing that they'll take losses doing it.

Messaging matters. Thats why I knew bernie wasn’t going to go anywhere. He always frames shyt wrong.

People want to be rich. They dont want to be poor and dependent.

The trans shyt literally bombed the campaign. Go listen to the Pod Save America episode with the campaign staff

@25 mins





more deflection

Bernie wasn't going to go anywhere because he talking about doing shyt that's giving up the game for the establishment and donors. The party will actively work against that sort of stuff like they did. You say messaging matters. Why didn't the party get behind his messaging and push him to the front? Because he wanted to get money out of politics, have universal health care, raise the minimum wage, and implement policies to help the average American.

The democratic party doesn't want to do that stuff and will fight against such a candidate. They'd rather lose to republicans and bide their time than have the system they take advantage of destroyed.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

This is the truth. The democrats exist to raise money from donors and serve them. If they can't win doing that they'll take losses doing it.

Bernie wasn't going to go anywhere because he talking about doing shyt that's giving up the game for the establishment and donors. The party will actively work against that sort of stuff like they did. You say messaging matters. Why didn't the party get behind his messaging and push him to the front? Because he wanted to get money out of politics, have universal health care, raise the minimum wage, and implement policies to help the average American.

The democratic party doesn't want to do that stuff and will fight against such a candidate. They'd rather lose to republicans and bide their time than have the system they take advantage of destroyed.

this anti-donor shyt is nonsense. Bernie doesn’t know how to accomplish shyt.

Voters support progressive referendum’s but the politicians themselves are fukking losers they dont want representing them.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Shermichael Singleton, Gary Chambers AND Bakari Sellers admit TRANS ISSUES HURT DEMOCRATS​

 

[winb83]

sounds like I was right and you’re realizing that the stuff you thought was insignificant matters a lot to people in profound ways.

Look, if you can’t acknowledge what a man or woman is, then people dont listen to anything else you have to say. Period.

Donald Trump tried to overturn the previous election and assaulted the core of what the United States is. This was widely exposed to the public. He sparked a riot and his supporters attacked the US capital.

Despite this he was voted back into office. It wasn't because of transexuals it was because of the economy and people's feeling that they're worse off now than they were in the economy pre-COVID.

I'm not saying people don't care about Trans issues I'm saying it's not significant enough to swing an election. Hell fukking abortion wasn't significant enough to swing this election.

The Harris campaign wasn't out there talking about Trans issues like it was important anyway.

 

[BaggerofTea]

If Americans let trannies dictate their political positions, then this country deserves to fall.

 

[winb83]

this anti-donor shyt is nonsense. Bernie doesn’t know how to accomplish shyt.

Voters support progressive referendum’s but the politicians themselves are fukking losers they dont want representing them.

It's not that Bernie knew or didn't know how to get it done. It's that our politicians in office won't allow that stuff to happen. The majority of the country wants common sense gun laws, paid maternity leave, and universal health care. Despite the fact that much of that polls at over 60% none of it is the law of the land.

They aren't implementing policies that will hurt the donor class to the benefit of the general public.

You said it yourself voters support progressive referendum so what other reason do you have for why that stuff hasn't happened than the donors don't want it to happen and the politicians who want the donors money aim to please?

 

[the next guy]

this anti-donor shyt is nonsense. Bernie doesn’t know how to accomplish shyt.

Voters support progressive referendum’s but the politicians themselves are fukking losers they dont want representing them.

Don't take maga's money and then complain about Maga. Bernie is simply a strawman for people who have had a decade to form a legal strategy for citizens united and haven't yet.