Democratic Party Rebuild

[AquaCityBoy]

Nah.

 

[the cac mamba]

The fact that you walking around calling them "trehs" like we 15 and assuming their sexuality let's everyone know not to take you serious on this conservation.

ok, i could use a good laugh; what is the "serious position"?

 

[the cac mamba]

Nah.

why is "biden and democrats" where "israel after october 7th" should be?

what a retarded meme

 

[Outlaw]

Who's pushing that specific policy? Which Democrat is even advocating for this?

Do you support something much more destructive and irreversible that happens at birth to intersex children?


Did you know that there is an actual epidemic with parents forcing irreversible surgeries on intersex children at birth?

Amid transgender care bans, exceptions made for surgery on intersex children

Despite many gender-affirming care bans for trans youth across the U.S., controversial surgeries for intersex children to assign them a gender are often still allowed.

abcnews.go.com

Why does this not receive the same "concern" from people? Is it because it aligns with what's seen as "normal?"

I don’t think the Republicans are morally right for weaponizing these issues against Democrats, I just know that they will try to.

Most of the electorate is too ignorant to understand the nuance behind it

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Nah.

 

[King Kreole]

Interesting one could argue labor/class politics died when LBJ passed the civil rights act.

The 1964 CRA didn't really destroy the Democratic Party's soul because unions were still a massive, load-bearing institution within the Democratic Party well into the 1980s and you can see a succession of New Deal Democrats as the standard-bearer of the Party centering working class politics until Clinton. If you want to go upstream to the inciting incident, a more likely culprit is the Carter Administration letting the fox into the henhouse by capitulating to deregulatory neoliberalism and trying to mutilate the Democratic Party's New Deal consensus.

LBJ IMO doesn’t get enough credit because he rose above racial divisions to actually deliver for class interests.

Yeah agreed, he's a fascinating political figure.

One could argue Reagan was the embodiment and rejection of economic class interests in favor of racial interests.

He personified the movement of I’d rather no one get benefits from the government than blacks also get the benefits.

This is why Democrats can never get a majority of the white vote post civil rights era.

Reagan is truly the most consequential President of this modern era because he created the entire political paradigm we've been living in since his election. I don't know if I'd say that his pitch was a rejection of economic class interests in favor of racial interests though. Rather, he was trying to craft a new coalition centered around neoliberal free-market supply-side economics which promised a rising tide that would lift all ships. Clinton and the post-Clinton Democrats are all deferential to Reagan's legacy, they're not even trying to reverse it, just make minor changes around its edges.

America has obviously always has a decently large segment of white people who are primarily motivated by racial animus, but how this has manifested politically is too complex and nuanced a story to reduce to Democrats being irreversibly fukked by the white vote because of the civil rights era imo.

I think this is the flaw in the progressive ideology that if enough freebies are handed out the economic lower class will come out and vote over racial grievances

It's not "freebies" it's the rights and benefits owed to the people of this society. I think the progressive argument is more that if you offer an actual robust social democratic alternative to the Reaganite worldview then you can change the political calculus. It's an argument based in respect for the dignity and worth of actual people's lives instead of viewing them as cogs in an election machine.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Did you know that there is an actual epidemic with parents forcing irreversible surgeries on intersex children at birth?

Amid transgender care bans, exceptions made for surgery on intersex children

Despite many gender-affirming care bans for trans youth across the U.S., controversial surgeries for intersex children to assign them a gender are often still allowed.

abcnews.go.com

This proves my/our point.

Intersex people have a legitimate medical ailment and set of disorders. Trans people do not. Trans people using intersex as some shield against criticism UNDERMINE intersex people.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

When was the last significant item the democrat party passed for people on a lower economic scale? its easier to convince white people that racial grievances is the problem when since at least the 80s lower incomes have been separating further and further from the economic wealth gap. everyone including progressive were excited for BBB because they saw it as the biggest advancement for the working class in 5 decades.

Stimulus? Credit score reporting for medical debt? Student loans? Child tax credit?

WTF are you talking bout?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

It's not "freebies" it's the rights and benefits owed to the people of this society. I think the progressive argument is more that if you offer an actual robust social democratic alternative to the Reaganite worldview then you can change the political calculus. It's an argument based in respect for the dignity and worth of actual people's lives instead of viewing them as cogs in an election machine.

Is that what DSA and Bernie affiliates can’t get traction where black people live?

 

[Loose]

Stimulus?

Credit score reporting for medical debt?

cool nrlb decision thats now gone

Student loans?

???? When did Biden waive upwards to 10k like he promised for all student loans

Child tax credit?

the ones the dems let expire with no fight?

WTF are you talking bout?

The question is wtf are you talking about none of that stuff is significant

 

[AquaCityBoy]

I see you're posting racist right-wing 'memes.'

Again.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

This proves my/our point.

Intersex people have a legitimate medical ailment and set of disorders. Trans people do not. Trans people using intersex as some shield against criticism UNDERMINE intersex people.

Stick to posting "LibsOfTikTok" and "End Wokeness," and stop quoting me like you know what you're talking about, because you clearly don't.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I see you're posting racist right-wing 'memes.'

Again.

Stick to posting "LibsOfTikTok" and "End Wokeness," and stop quoting me like you know what you're talking about, because you clearly don't.

This is what you’re defending

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

cool nrlb decision thats now gone

???? When did Biden waive upwards to 10k like he promised for all student loans



the ones the dems let expire with no fight?

The question is wtf are you talking about none of that stuff is significant

You can’t deny anything so you pivot to saying it wasn’t enough.

OK.

If you can’t be satisfied, then learn to go without.