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I maintain that donors can sculpt propaganda but I think voters still vote masse. I dont think a shifting of voters would have won this election.

Even I still underestimate the impact of this being a COVID reaction election
The covid shyt is why Trump won. Trump is good at messaging. He's like a master communicator. People shytted on that idea when I proposed in a few weeks ago, but Trump is amazing at messaging. The average, dumb, American fell for it. They cared more about the economy that anything else. The covid shyt was Trump's fault, but the populace can't see this. The average voter is dumb as shyt. Trump knows how to talk to them. that's why he won. He's a master communicator. Harris was a novice, in comparison. Harris just didn't have what it takes to take on a master communicator. It is what it is.
 

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The covid shyt is why Trump won. Trump is good at messaging. He's like a master communicator. People shytted on that idea when I proposed in a few weeks ago, but Trump is amazing at messaging. The average, dumb, American fell for it. They cared more about the economy that anything else. The covid shyt was Trump's fault, but the populace can't see this. The average voter is dumb as shyt. Trump knows how to talk to them. that's why he won. He's a master communicator. Harris was a novice, in comparison. Harris just didn't have what it takes to take on a master communicator. It is what it is.
Trump is why you look up and see the corniest, tackiest, weirdest, unsophisticated types who excel at SALES. Its wild. But, it works on who it works…:francis:
 

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Again, the details is where you lose this argument. It’s not about “supporting palestinians”. It’s where yall take this to the “elimination of Israel”, and you wont actually post those stats. You can have “poor views of Israel” and “support the existence of Israel"

yall do this bait and switch when it comes to Universal Healthcare vs Public Option vs Medicare for All vs Single Payer… :francis:
Who said anything about the elimination of Israel? The average Democrat voters gives two fukks about Israel; that is a fact that polling has shown for a while. Democrats shouldn't be making any major policy decisions based on billionaire class donors that disagrees with their voting base. Israel shouldn't be a major contention point for any democratic candidate.
 

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You can’t win the argument when you’re known for suicide bombings.

I don’t make the rules :hubie:

Also, forcing half the populace to wear hijab, promoting social conservatism and strict islamic punishments makes it hard for the AVERAGE person to care about your wellbeing.
yeah, I 100% agree. What Hamas wants runs contrary to what Americans believe. Fundamental Islamists are a problem. We don't want them. Who would want to live in a country like them? People don't understand how serious these fundamentalists are. We have to stop them.

I wonder if the protestors would be welcome to no school for women, no drinking, no freedom. They are literally supporting the enemy. Fundamentalist Islam is a scourge upon the world. We need to stop them. I think the American public thinks the same way.

Like I mentioned in a previous post, I used to work for the Navy in the terrorism years of the US. What the fundamentalists want is exactly the opposite of the American way. The fundamentalists are a big problem, and they should be stopped. fukk them.
 

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Very true. The average American doesn't give a fukk about the plight of the Muslims. Plus, as much as it's not cool to say, they started this war. The terrorist attack was despicable. Why couldn't they attack an Israeli bass instead. They started this shyt. They are responsible for all the deaths. What did they think, Israel would just not respond? Stupid as fukk. The whole Palestine "genocide" was started by Hamas. They made this happen. I think the average American understands this. Israel is known for going overboard with reactionary attacks. What did Hamas think would happen. They are stupid as fukk, like most terrorists. They think they are doing something to fight against the enemy, but in reality, their actions directly resulted in tens of thousands of people dying. Stupid as fukk. I don't understand the terrorist mindset. They are stupid as fukk :ufdup:
This is the exact same rhetoric and logic of domestic abusers. "My wife made me beat her half to death because she insulted me." To say the Palestinians are "responsible for all the deaths" that Israel caused and dismiss Israel's culpability by saying "they're known for going overboard with reactionary attacks" is utterly insane. Israelis are not mindless zombies, they are human beings who had a choice in how they responded. What you're doing is treating the Israelis like they are inherently and unalterably monstrous, incapable of behaving in humane ways. They didn't have to drop 2000 pound bombs and bunker busters on schools and hospitals. That was a choice they made. They were under no threat of serious attack or existential destruction from Hamas after October 7th. They chose to enact a genocide, no one forced them to. To the degree the average American believes this pack of lies it's because they have been misinformed by our media that is completely captured by Zionist interest.
 

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yeah, I 100% agree. What Hamas wants runs contrary to what Americans believe. Fundamental Islamists are a problem. We don't want them. Who would want to live in a country like them? People don't understand how serious these fundamentalists are. We have to stop them.

I wonder if the protestors would be welcome to no school for women, no drinking, no freedom. They are literally supporting the enemy. Fundamentalist Islam is a scourge upon the world. We need to stop them. I think the American public thinks the same way.
:mjlol: this is a mental illness, fundamental islamist is no different then fundamentalist Christians, both are based on shytty religions and outdated social norms.
 

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:mjlol: this is a mental illness, fundamental islamist is no different then fundamentalist Christians, both are based on shytty religions and outdated social norms.
Both are a problem, but fundamentalist Islam is worse. They are simply worse. I'm anti-religion. I hate the Christians too, but if I had to choose, the Christians are better. Fundamentalist Islam is a big problem. How you can't see that, I don't know. Who wants to live in a fundamentalist Islamic state? We have examples of that already. Who wants to live in that? Fundamentalist Islam is a big problem. :ufdup:
 

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Mfer said black democrats care about Israel:laff: idk where he got that one from. Black democrats aint worried about no damn israel lol, it's not even the same people as in the Bible
I didn’t say CARE. I said they’re more favorable to Israel’s existence than anything going on with Palestinians.
 

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This is the exact same rhetoric and logic of domestic abusers. "My wife made me beat her half to death because she insulted me." To say the Palestinians are "responsible for all the deaths" that Israel caused and dismiss Israel's culpability by saying "they're known for going overboard with reactionary attacks" is utterly insane. Israelis are not mindless zombies, they are human beings who had a choice in how they responded. What you're doing is treating the Israelis like they are inherently and unalterably monstrous, incapable of behaving in humane ways. They didn't have to drop 2000 pound bombs and bunker busters on schools and hospitals. That was a choice they made. They were under no threat of serious attack or existential destruction from Hamas after October 7th. They chose to enact a genocide, no one forced them to. To the degree the average American believes this pack of lies it's because they have been misinformed by our media that is completely captured by Zionist interest.
The day is October 6th do you advise Hamas to continue with their plan?

Conversely, the day is October 8th, what do you advise Israel to do with Gaza?
 

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Who said anything about the elimination of Israel? The average Democrat voters gives two fukks about Israel; that is a fact that polling has shown for a while. Democrats shouldn't be making any major policy decisions based on billionaire class donors that disagrees with their voting base. Israel shouldn't be a major contention point for any democratic candidate.
The fact that yall dont understand “the base” is why you all keep losing arguments when it comes to democrats. You all dont even understand republicans or what motivates them.
 
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