Democratic Party Rebuild

[Loose]

The US populace, minus the students, are pro-Israel. They have been perhaps brainwashed into thinking that, but most non-students are pro Israel. Holocaust guilt and all that. Dearborn isn't the entirety of the US. The average dumb American is pro-Israel. That's why Harris went that way, and well the donors.

9% of democrats sympathize with the Israelis. People see threw the bs more than ever.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

He must like hochul cause sadly he'd beat her too( she sucks btw) he'd going to win nyc mayor race

Blow out

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

9% of democrats sympathize with the Israelis. People see threw the bs more than ever.

As a black democrat myself, I will tell you, that most black people support Israel.

I dont know how you settled on this or who you’re listening to. Maybe you should try talking to black people.

 

[Ciggavelli]

9% of democrats sympathize with the Israelis. People see threw the bs more than ever.

Interesting. Your first embed was more pro-Israel.

We gotta worry about the donors though. The donors are very pro-Israel.

Then we gotta think about Holocaust guilt. That is very strong with the average American. Once all the holocaust survivors die, things will be different, but we are not at that point now.

The Palestine issue is a losing bet. Both parties are very pro Israel. So, by taking the pro palestine angle, you are attracting the youth and disaffected dems, but you are losing the rest of the country. I think it's a wash issue. We should be focusing in on other things. The youth can do what they want, but they don't vote like older people do. We should be attracting the middle aged and older folks. They are the ones that vote.

 

[Loose]

As a black democrat myself, I will tell you, that most black people support Israel.

I dont know how you settled on this or who you’re listening to. Maybe you should try talking to black people.

As an actual black man and a democrat we dont not give a shyt about Israel, im not sure what Indian chat room gave you that taking point lol

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Interesting. Your first embed was more pro-Israel.

We gotta worry about the donors though. The donors are very pro-Israel.

Then we gotta think about Holocaust guilt. That is very strong with the average American. Once all the holocaust survivors die, things will be different, but we are not at that point now.

The Palestine issue is a losing bet. Both parties are very pro Israel. So, by taking the pro palestine angle, you are attracting the youth and disaffected dems, but you are losing the rest of the country. I think it's a wash issue. We should be focusing in on other things. The youth can do what they want, but they don't vote like older people do. We should be attracting the middle aged and older folks. They are the ones that vote.

Again, most people do not care about muslims like that, especially the ones who started a war with terror tactics. I dont know why these basics are so hard to grasp.

The SILENT majority is generally indifferent to positive on Israel.

 

[Loose]

Interesting. Your first embed was more pro-Israel.

We gotta worry about the donors though. The donors are very pro-Israel.

Then we gotta think about Holocaust guilt. That is very strong with the average American. Once all the holocaust survivors die, things will be different, but we are not at that point now.

The Palestine issue is a losing bet. Both parties are very pro Israel. So, by taking the pro palestine angle, you are attracting the youth and disaffected dems, but you are losing the rest of the country. I think it's a wash issue. We should be focusing in on other things. The youth can do what they want, but they don't vote like older people do. We should be attracting the middle aged and older folks. They are the ones that vote.

And that's the problem with the democrats caring more about rich billionaire donors over your actual consitutes. If you look in the crosstab, only 13% of Harris voters emphasize with Israel whereas 33% does with Palestinians. Only the donors class and republicans care about Israel like its the 1960s. Most democrats don't give a shyt about israel

 

[Ciggavelli]

Again, most people do not care about muslims like that, especially the ones who started a war with terror tactics. I dont know why these basics are so hard to grasp.

The SILENT majority is generally indifferent to positive on Israel.

Very true. The average American doesn't give a fukk about the plight of the Muslims. Plus, as much as it's not cool to say, they started this war. The terrorist attack was despicable. Why couldn't they attack an Israeli bass instead. They started this shyt. They are responsible for all the deaths. What did they think, Israel would just not respond? Stupid as fukk. The whole Palestine "genocide" was started by Hamas. They made this happen. I think the average American understands this. Israel is known for going overboard with reactionary attacks. What did Hamas think would happen. They are stupid as fukk, like most terrorists. They think they are doing something to fight against the enemy, but in reality, their actions directly resulted in tens of thousands of people dying. Stupid as fukk. I don't understand the terrorist mindset. They are stupid as fukk

 

[King Kreole]

As an actual black man and a democrat we dont not give a shyt about Israel, im not sure what Indian chat room gave you that taking point lol

Indians are arguably the most pro-Israel non-Jewish demographic because they hate Muslims/Pakistan and see parallels between the ethno-fascism of Zionism/Netanyahu and the ethno-fascism of Modi's Hindu-Nationalism.

 

[Ciggavelli]

And that's the problem with the democrats caring more about rich billionaire donors over your actual consitutes. If you look in the crosstab, only 13% of Harris voters emphasize with Israel whereas 33% does with Palestinians. Only the donors class and republicans care about Israel like its the 1960s. Most democrats don't give a shyt about israel

The donors buy elections. That is just the way it is. You gotta understand that

Most people don't give a shyt about the war in Palenstine. They're just like, jews were persecuted in WWII, we gotta support them. Plus Hamas started this war. They wanted this. Hamas is to blame. I know you're gonna come back with, well Israel is an apartheid state and they started this. They did not start this reaction though. Hamas started it. Parashooting into a fukking concert and raping and killing people is not the way to end the apartheid. They could have done that on a military base, but instead they chose innocent civilians. They made a bad tactical error, and they are paying for it. What did they think would happen? The other muslim countries backing them? That didn't happen. They were stupid as fukk. Typical terrorist bullshyt that leads to nothing but tons of death. That is what the average American thinks. Hamas is just a bunch of terrorists, is the common belief. And it's true, they are. You may come back and say Israel is killing kids at hospitals. Which they are, I'll give you that, but this would have never been started if it wasn't for Hamas doing their terrorist attack. They are stupid terrorists that think they can make a difference. They can't. They fukked up.

 

[Loose]

Very true. The average American doesn't give a fukk about the plight of the Muslims. Plus, as much as it's not cool to say, they started this war. The terrorist attack was despicable. Why couldn't they attack an Israeli bass instead. They started this shyt. They are responsible for all the deaths. What did they think, Israel would just not respond? Stupid as fukk. The whole Palestine "genocide" was started by Hamas. They made this happen. I think the average American understands this. Israel is known for going overboard with reactionary attacks. What did Hamas think would happen. They are stupid as fukk, like most terrorists. They think they are doing something to fight against the enemy, but in reality, their actions directly resulted in tens of thousands of people dying. Stupid as fukk. I don't understand the terrorist mindset. They are stupid as fukk

Idf is literally a terrorist organization that kills thousands of Palestinians in the Westbank yearly tf is u talking about lol. Yall warhawks are insane.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Indians are arguably the most pro-Israel non-Jewish demographic because they hate Muslims/Pakistan and see parallels between the ethno-fascism of Zionism/Netanyahu and the ethno-fascism of Modi's Hindu-Nationalism.

I’m not indian. I’m also not going to condone the scourge of islamic terrorism taking over sub-saharan Africa. you can’t comment on that because you’re unaware of it.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The donors buy elections. That is just the way it is. You gotta understand that

Most people don't give a shyt about the war in Palenstine. They're just like, jews were persecuted in WWII, we gotta support them. Plus Hamas started this war. They wanted this. Hamas is to blame. I know you're gonna come back with, well Israel is an apartheid state and they started this. They did not start this reaction though. Hamas started it. Parashooting into a fukking concert and raping and killing people is not the way to end the apartheid. They could have done that on a military base, but instead they chose innocent civilians. They made a bad tactical error, and they are paying for it. What did they think would happen? The other muslim countries backing them? That didn't happen. They were stupid as fukk. Typical terrorist bullshyt that leads to nothing but tons of death. That is what the average American thinks. Hamas is just a bunch of terrorists, is the common belief. And it's true, they are. You may come back and say Israel is killing kids at hospitals. Which they are, I'll give you that, but this would have never been started if it wasn't for Hamas doing their terrorist attack. They are stupid terrorists that think they can make a difference. They can't. They fukked up.

I maintain that donors can sculpt propaganda but I think voters still vote masse. I dont think a shifting of voters would have won this election.

Even I still underestimate the impact of this being a COVID reaction election

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

And that's the problem with the democrats caring more about rich billionaire donors over your actual consitutes. If you look in the crosstab, only 13% of Harris voters emphasize with Israel whereas 33% does with Palestinians. Only the donors class and republicans care about Israel like its the 1960s. Most democrats don't give a shyt about israel

Again, the details is where you lose this argument. It’s not about “supporting palestinians”. It’s where yall take this to the “elimination of Israel”, and you wont actually post those stats. You can have “poor views of Israel” and “support the existence of Israel"

yall do this bait and switch when it comes to Universal Healthcare vs Public Option vs Medicare for All vs Single Payer…

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

The donors buy elections. That is just the way it is. You gotta understand that

Most people don't give a shyt about the war in Palenstine. They're just like, jews were persecuted in WWII, we gotta support them. Plus Hamas started this war. They wanted this. Hamas is to blame. I know you're gonna come back with, well Israel is an apartheid state and they started this. They did not start this reaction though. Hamas started it. Parashooting into a fukking concert and raping and killing people is not the way to end the apartheid. They could have done that on a military base, but instead they chose innocent civilians. They made a bad tactical error, and they are paying for it. What did they think would happen? The other muslim countries backing them? That didn't happen. They were stupid as fukk. Typical terrorist bullshyt that leads to nothing but tons of death. That is what the average American thinks. Hamas is just a bunch of terrorists, is the common belief. And it's true, they are. You may come back and say Israel is killing kids at hospitals. Which they are, I'll give you that, but this would have never been started if it wasn't for Hamas doing their terrorist attack. They are stupid terrorists that think they can make a difference. They can't. They fukked up.

You can’t win the argument when you’re known for suicide bombings.

I don’t make the rules

Also, forcing half the populace to wear hijab, promoting social conservatism and strict islamic punishments makes it hard for the AVERAGE person to care about your wellbeing.