Please start posting something new. I can’t handle having to scroll by yall complaining about the democrats while you do nothing and minimize/absolve republicans for the next four years.
Democratic Party Rebuild
- Thread starter the next guy
- Start date
. Almost half the voters voted for dems , and the weak resistance is we don't have power
You guys have a fundamental problem with elections.
You like to be passive during the organizing and primary stage when you have the most power, then complain about the people you have.
It’s fairly simple, if you’re passive at the beginning, you’re going to be likely disappointed in the end. The general election is too late to start caring.
So right now, when you all should be working to usher in new candidates that align with what you want you’re wasting your time complaining about folks already in office.
It isn’t proactive and if you went to work and just merely complained instead of producing you’d be looked at as expendable. Which is how I view your rants.
Further dems or people who vote Dems should become more focused on proximity.
It does no good spend all of your time complaining about a person you have no sway over electorally.
Guys have spent more time and energy arguing about the Junior Senators from Pennsylvania, WV, and Arizona than they have over the people they have direct access to.
If everyone focused on doing as much as they can within proximity and bring forward the types of candidates representative of your interests you’re more likely to get the sweeping change you expect.
Instead, you’re giving all your agency to a NY liberal, a CA liberal, and someone half a country away whose issues mire the country from being effective on messaging like healthcare, wage benefits, and home affordability because now you have to explain and justify why what some dude in CA is doing is cool and should be supported.
It does no good spend all of your time complaining about a person you have no sway over electorally.
Guys have spent more time and energy arguing about the Junior Senators from Pennsylvania, WV, and Arizona than they have over the people they have direct access to.
If everyone focused on doing as much as they can within proximity and bring forward the types of candidates representative of your interests you’re more likely to get the sweeping change you expect.
Instead, you’re giving all your agency to a NY liberal, a CA liberal, and someone half a country away whose issues mire the country from being effective on messaging like healthcare, wage benefits, and home affordability because now you have to explain and justify why what some dude in CA is doing is cool and should be supported.
I disagree which was the whole purpose of my post. Republicans are rightfully out there framing the narrative behind eveyrthing hey're doing with always bringing up the word " mandate", they frame all the cost cutting , releasing j6 felons etc under voters mandating them to do so.
You want to know what dems is currently doing ? Complaining that voters expect to to be a party of opposition and promoting 74 year old cancer dying reps as the leaders of the party.
Dems is currently passive right now. Why aren't dems in public explaining to the american citizens the importance of the NLRB and what it does for the average citizens, explain the importance of NIH/ department of education? Instead lets complain about having to be an opposition party
No disagreement
I agree when it comes to district races
I wholeheartedly disagree, this is why republicans continue to win, and will continue to win going forward. Republicans have a party platform, which every us senator must file unless it's a strategic exclusion. You won't catch republican pulling a sinema or manchin holding back an entire bill due to personal vendetta. If they did they would rightfully be shyt on ( like they did mccain) and primaried
Yes this makes sense for the house not the senate. Having DINOs is absolutely useless if you want to execute the parties platform.
NY AND CA liberal have nothing to do with what happened between sinema and machin, Georgia Michigan Pennsylvania and Wisconsin dems agreed to the bill that should tell you a lot
@Loose we’re coming up on a decade of the Bernie or Bust movement. It was a failure and all the thinking that went along with it.
Progressives have lost their place within the party and have been relegated to being the poster child’s of fringe issues and whiney unserious malcontents.
You all re no longer are seen as representative of the fight for public health nor the middle class.
It’s time to accept the post-Mortem and change.
Progressives have lost their place within the party and have been relegated to being the poster child’s of fringe issues and whiney unserious malcontents.
You all re no longer are seen as representative of the fight for public health nor the middle class.
It’s time to accept the post-Mortem and change.
Dems did this under Trump 1 and under Biden.
People who vote along the party line and against the other party aren’t DINO. They’re just part of the big tent.
As I said to you in the Fetterman thread, it’s time to leave this thinking alone.
Because as you’ve seen, folks in West Virginia and Ohio don’t seem to want your influence on their senate races.
Wasting a year trying to convince someone to change for a blanket bill instead of accepting it, taking that win and moving on to another issue is what gives off the air of “doing nothing.”
Dems did this under Trump 1 and under Biden.
And that's exactly why we have trump again. Zero framing of the narratives.a fukking once in a lifetime pandemic helped get rid of Trump the first time
Senators like manchin and sinema are bought and paid for by corporations, they should not be apart of the democratic party. The monetary value wasted on big tent dems could be used on close election races such as the last Wisconsin Ron Johnson race.
It's not. Fetterman should be primaried as well. Its a purple state he has no excuse not to get on board unless it's a strategic vote. Unless it's some shyt like fracking Fetterman should be on board 99% of the time
West virgina which was once blue has turned red due to the rights framing, this all goes back to the dems sucking at framing narratives
But this is so much easier
No, it’s people like you saying it shouldn’t matter because Gaza and TimTok was more important.
You’re surprised that a Senator from WV caters to the interest of WV business.
Sorta like how Ro Khanna bends over for tech
.Facts vs feelings.
You’re feelings.
How often every member of Congress voted with Biden in 2023
How often did Senate and House Democrats and Republicans vote with President Joe Biden in 2023?
abcnews.go.com
WV is a largely religiously conservative state full of white folks. Trying to force them to care about gay rights and abortion over going to heaven probably made it easy. Especially when you tack on green initiatives that are taking money from their communities.
No way KK is saying that after spending four years trying to nuance a legal argument that would work for SCOTUS with student debt reliefs.
He’s a troll and does a troll job. He’s good at it, but his voice is outsized. He should just give his data to a better voice
A cold body in a blue seat is better than a warm body in a red seat.
I dont know why you can’t count votes.
