Dej Loaf is the genius Lauryn Hill was advertised as,and will go down as goat female hiphop artist.

[Art Barr]

Revisionist history... the entire album was an event. Everyone loved miseducation and bumped it from front to back.. not sure where you are from... there's a reason people still dikk ride her to this day... she put out a classic album and people qish she would've put out a 2nd

Not true.

The album was a bait and switch hip-hop culture thief event at its core. That I reviewed as a bait and switch rap album with low marks and I distinctly reviewed as a slap in the face.

It is biggest fraud bait and switch in rap history. Plus one of the chief markers in the ideology of trying to further misappropriate rap music to be substituted out for rnb.

Lauren hill is the biggest fraud in female rap history.
supplanting latifah and lyte in two blockbuster albums. That are firmly entrenched in the long con of bait and switch and fraud.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

I'm taking your " voice over artist" dig when I'm talking rap with folks

Thank you....

nikkaz is Pixar now breh.

Please give voice over artist and pixar more legs.
If a male rapper has a gw,.. He is a female rapper.

With how things are going.
Will should have asked uncle Phil to give us:

Panthro vs shredder

Yet he did not because even will himself was flodge'n. All this flodge'n is why things are fukked up.

Art Barr

 

[Benefited]

Revisionist history... the entire album was an event. Everyone loved miseducation and bumped it from front to back.. not sure where you are from... there's a reason people still dikk ride her to this day... she put out a classic album and people qish she would've put out a 2nd

I'm not revising history because I would not say that is untrue,you are correct about all of that. But are nikkas bumping it back to back today? Hiphop fans acknowledged it because she was relevant in hiphop culture,not because it was a great hiphop album. Folks loved the fact it was a great rnb album made by someone who was apart of a hiphop group. my whole point isn't that Lauryn wasn't great,but she was a great hybrid with a ton of help,therefore not as genius as advertisedAnd only a "genius" in the rnb realm. Dej on the other hand is that genius hybrid without the help.

 

[Tribal Outkast]

I can’t rock with this. Lauryn Hill is still getting more love even after being known for being hours late to her own concerts lol. Def got a couple songs and that’s it.

 

[010101]

another babymother*

 

[newworldafro]

This ain't it OP.

 

[Benefited]

Stop.

You really don't know hip hop actual culture at all. That is why you talking from a confused misappropriated place.
Rnb is a pop genre buzzword. to signify internally the main creators and misappropriation based businesses.
a false seat at the artistic table of black blues in America and all history. There has never been a real actual culture around rnb ever. That is the reason why hip hop culture even existed and went through two stages of thought. To deviate it away from rnb entirely. Which spanned everything from visual grassroots to actual sonic application. So the people creating any pieces in any pillar could properly be credited and compensated.
in immediate currency and actual currency as a legacy. Rnb is a buzz word for the large arthouse ripoff and misappropriation of American black blues ..half the reason why I never had many problems on the road was because of the fact I was an actual hip hop culture based artist. Where we have norma and mores for the pillars and theme business derived from them. Rnb has no such framework whatsoever.

Like I said you do not know hiphop culture and do not know wtf you are talembout. Not to mention , you keep trying to make two fraud rnb plant artist into bgirls and emcees and both are not. One is an elaborate abc Disney after school prison industrial economy ruse. Welled in and perverted and a complete fraud. The other is a rnb writer given leeway and a marker to b*stardize hip hop as well. Neither artist is some bgirl for real and neither artist is a part of hip hop culture.

You believe fraud marketing and in that you believe you think you know or experience hiphop. When you have no fukk'n idea wtf hiphop is.


Art Barr

Until you apoligize for running around here praising the talents of Cardi B,and preaching her validity as a rap artist,you can never tell me I don't know what I'm talking about or tell me who I can't uphold in the culture:henbron:.Actually have the nerve to accuse Dej of being a plant,where is your proof? She doesn't get the burn of someone who is a forced plant unlike some people you put on a pedestal. Its obvious you don't even realize the term RNB has been lifted and used to innacurately describe various styles of black music that involved black people,that evolved from what was originally classified as RnB or had RNB influence. That sounds pretty familiar because the same thing has been done with the term "hiphop" does that mean "hiphop" is a buzzword and has no culture? Dej is a rapper because she raps better than she sings,and the cuher entry into the game is as a rapper. Queen Latifah isn't considered a rnb artist either just because she sings more than she raps.

Dej is not real RNB by any standard,she is hiphop based on the fact hiphop has taken influence from rnb and other genres that were wrongly classified as RNB as they were offshoots, since its inception. And most importantly because she actually raps! But you think I don't know what I'm talking about,I can tell you don't know what your talking about,not much further we can take this conversation,so you have been dismissed from this conversation now:henbron:

 

[Art Barr]

I never validated or gave praise to cardi b as a bgirl or real emcee goofie.
The same way no one can validate queen latifah as a real emcee and the same way lyte is a fraud as well.

Since you don't know hip hop actual culture. You created a false narrative in your head.
that you think you know but you do not. You have never seen me campaign and not keep it real culturally about any artist in the rap industry ever.

So please up my thread and my quotes. So I can easily show you ... Again.
You do not know wtf you talembout at all.

Art Barr

Until you apoligize for running around here praising the talents of Cardi B,and preaching her validity as a rap artist,you can never tell me I don't know what I'm talking about or tell me who I can't uphold in the culture:henbron:.Actually have the nerve to accuse Dej of being a plant,where is your proof? She doesn't get the burn of someone who is a forced plant unlike some people you put on a pedestal. Its obvious you don't even realize the term RNB has been lifted and used to innacurately describe various styles of black music that involved black people,that evolved from what was originally classified as RnB or had RNB influence. That sounds pretty familiar because the same thing has been done with the term "hiphop" does that mean "hiphop" is a buzzword and has no culture? Dej is a rapper because she raps better than she sings,and the cuher entry into the game is as a rapper. Queen Latifah isn't considered a rnb artist either just because she sings more than she raps.

Dej is not real RNB by any standard,she is hiphop based on the fact hiphop has taken influence from rnb and other genres that were wrongly classified as RNB as they were offshoots, since its inception. And most importantly because she actually raps! But you think I don't know what I'm talking about,I can tell you don't know what your talking about,not much further we can take this conversation,so you have been dismissed from this conversation now:henbron:

 

[Woodrow]

Some of y’all will legit say anything for a 5-page thread...

 

[Benefited]

I never validated or gave praise to cardi b as a bgirl or real emcee goofie.
The same way no one can validate queen latifah as a real emcee and the same way lyte is a fraud as well.

Since you don't know hip hop actual culture. You created a false narrative in your head.
that you think you know but you do not. You have never seen me campaign and not keep it real culturally about any artist in the rap industry ever.

So please up my thread and my quotes. So I can easily show you ... Again.
You do not know wtf you talembout at all.

Art Barr

If this ain't a campaign ran on "fake news" I don't know what is

oh, and you bytches don't rap as good as her, either.



take the corniest instrumental,..then, parody what needs to be said to hoes and out rap the entire mainstream rap industry as well.

with what seems like savant natural skill, that should be the main focus of l&hh.
not those other wack hoes who appeared in any and every episode of the show's history.


art barr

at savant natural skill, you consider a bytch sounding like she reading off a teleprompter natural skill. Don't compare her to Dej who is an authentic creative who taught herself to rap. You never saw me say Dej was a real emcee or bgirl. So who is creating false narratives again?You consider yourself a bboy who is supposed to be well traveled and plugged in and you couldn't even spot the fact Cardi B was not only no "natural" but not talented. Between this and the KRS debacle,your judgement must be called into question. Not sure if we can even consider you an ally in this thing anymore,you are Cypher in the Matrix at this point. At some point you got sick of the so called bboy life and decided the fake steak tasted better. Nobody authentic would cosign Cardi B and what she stands for on any level,no one righteous or with knowledge of self.

 

[Benefited]

Some of y’all will legit say anything for a 5-page thread...

More shockingly is some of you are still using the 15 post per page setting in 2018.
The only shocking thing about this would be if you still see Lauryn Hill as some deity even AFTER her confession,and the allegations that forced her to confess to claims she wasn't the creative force behind Miseducation Of Lauryn Hill. I don't and can't look at her that way,and never thought she was all that as a hiphop artist to begin with. Dej has a much greater upside in the hiphop arena and she already has hiphop classic songs of her own. Guess you nikkas forgot how much you loved Try Me when it first came out smh. If I'm tearing down false idols its only to build up what I believe will be real ones,don't knock that.

 

[Art Barr]

If this ain't a campaign ran on "fake news" I don't know what is



at savant natural skill, you consider a bytch sounding like she reading off a teleprompter natural skill. Don't compare her to Dej who is an authentic creative who taught herself to rap. You never saw me say Dej was a real emcee or bgirl. So who is creating false narratives again?You consider yourself a bboy who is supposed to be well traveled and plugged in and you couldn't even spot the fact Cardi B was not only no "natural" but not talented. Between this and the KRS debacle,your judgement must be called into question. Not sure if we can even consider you an ally in this thing anymore,you are Cypher in the Matrix at this point. At some point you got sick of the so called bboy life and decided the fake steak tasted better. Nobody authentic would cosign Cardi B and what she stands for on any level,no one righteous or with knowledge of self.

CARDI B = THE END GAME OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND REALITY TV IS HERE [all you other hoes need to retire]

THE END GAME OF SOCIAL MEDIA AND REALITY TV IS HERE.

Hey joe,

sometimes you wanna front,....
some may wanna hate, cause they are confused
or maybe it is because you may not know you witnessing the truth.
the truth is,....

CARDI B = the endgame for all you hoes with champagne dreams of being a social media starlet

ALSO NOTICE VERBIAGE.

I never said cardi b was an emcee you clown.
I also distinctly said social media in the title and in said thread. Go to speculate and make prophecy on her voice over artist material in rap.
Which easily illustrated through the use of the word and verbiage of rap.
Should ring true for real culture based people to not include real emcee'n
. Especially when a female in general is mentioned.
I said out rap.
which means just the misappropriated industry term of rap ideally of being a vocal. I never said she was an emcee.
your thread title clearly dismisses the idea with actual links.
that one you think dej loaf is an actual emcee.
when she is an r Kelly melody feature with rapper versus style singer.

That you clearly do not know wtf a real emcee is.
Plus you brought up a comparison to l hill.
when Lauren is no emcee either.

Which is why I said and anyone in this thread said.

You do not know wtf you are talembout at all.

You just tried to fail to move the goal post again.

Epic fail goofie.
Also cArdi b has natural vocal tonality bar to bar

that dej loaf does not have at all.
Which means naturally as a vocal, cardi has higher vocal tone quality.
That I expounded on.
that enables her to outrap her contemporaries on l&hh like I said. I never said she was an emcee.

You have verbiage and terms completely misconstrued.

Plus you do not know the culture of hip hop at all. From verbiage to mores or norms.
Including why I am the goat poster and made prophecy. speaking on the rap industry misappropriating rap. while also understanding how they are misappropriating rap and hiphop dually. to understand how the artist they use will draw potentially.

While your similar wanna be misinformed style thread.
to make prophecy fails and fails just off the to.
you do not know hip hop actual culture at all.
Now like everyone has said,...
You were wrong as fukk and need to go actually dig in the crate and be about the culture. To even speak on it.

You are not in any pillar anywhere and no one is ever cosigning you as an actual skilled anything and definitely not on my skill level in any plane of skill in the pillars I have partaken part in either.

If you were that dope. You would show and prove. Where we can tell from this thread alone.
How awfully wrong and out of order you are. That you don't know hip hop actual culture and need to atop flodge'n like you do. When it is completely obvious you do not.

If you did. This thread would be prophecy and it ain't and def loaf been dropped and still your late ass wrong as fukk. plus, this thread is dated by loaf's actual output and debut as well.

I posted about cardi before she was unveiled as a rapper goofie lame. When she was just a social meda starlet.

You made your thread.
Well after anyone who knows hip hop.
already knew dej loaf was no skilled female emcee.
Dej loaf is an r Kelly features with the rappers melody rnb singer.

She is no emcee.

i never said cardi was an emcee and i also speculated she was gw and would also draw from quality of actual vocal and her natural vocal tonality. both of which dej loaf does not have at all.

if she did, she would have drawn for an actual nonmelody based real rap vocal.
not the rkelly features with the rappers with melody playbook...

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Just to prove you further wrong again.

cardi b came out as a sellout being a girl selling her virtue and doing extras.
she never came out in a cultural based context and never pandered culturally to be seen as a philanthropist.
after creating the very erosion, and being critical of people dealing with the end result of the erosion he actually caused.


i see nikkaz in here, like to take their post recession meets digital age ideas.
like everything is devoid of culture,..yet everything is not devoid of culture like jayz actually said to be tho.
when he helped destroy the very protection mechanism that taught about what the imagery in the vid was and why it was banned.
instead it is a hypocrite sellout trying to chastize his audience.
for creating a lack of moral, cultural ethics, and lack of good faith misappropiating a culture disguised as business,



art barr

Since you such an expert on my posting.

We see you only do half the work.
Then try to create false narrative behind half parroted comments. Where if anyone does know.
They can ascertain my posting is taken out of full context.


Again just to post the difference between my sound actual real prophecies that come true. Compared to your late ass analysis. That only feature your half hearted nonknowledgeable takes.
That have easily been rebuked, rather quickly. I made my analysis about cardi b two years before she was the cardi b you tried to accuse me of championing. Plus I even give an in depth take on.
if cardi went into rap. Given what the female voice over market of rap is/was currently.
Plus why it would be successful.


Like I said,....you do not know hip hop actual culture at all in any form. From norms to mores, the pillars or to the history.
Anyone who is a real bboy.
can easily ascertain you do not know wtf you talembout.

While I am the goat.


Art Barr

 

[Preach Jackson]

coli on some KTT shyt today

 

[Benefited]

Just to prove you further wrong again.




Since you such an expert on my posting.

We see you only do half the work.
Then try to create false narrative behind half parroted comments. Where if anyone does know.
They can ascertain my posting is taken out of full context.


Again just to post the difference between my sound actual real prophecies that come true. Compared to your late ass analysis. That only feature your half hearted nonknowledgeable takes.
That have easily been rebuked, rather quickly. I made my analysis about cardi b two years before she was the cardi b you tried to accuse me of championing. Plus I even give an in depth take on.
if cardi went into rap. Given what the female voice over market of rap is/was currently.
Plus why it would be successful.


Like I said,....you do not know hip hop actual culture at all in any form. From norms to mores, the pillars or to the history.
Anyone who is a real bboy.
can easily ascertain you do not know wtf you talembout.

While I am the goat.


Art Barr

She was a fraud and uncosignable two years ago when you were in fact championing. I don't care how you try to disguise it as,Cardi B should have no cosigns from anyone who wants to consider themselves a reputable historian/champion of the culture. She is falsified in every aspect,you say she is hood but she is a plant and didn't come up out the streets organically. The hood didn't stop in its tracks after hearing not one single Cardi B verse or record like they did the first time Try Me played on they stations:henbron:

Now you need to show where I said that Dej was a emcee. You have been telling me what I think and putting words in my mouth. I clearly stated a page ago that Dej was not an emcee but she was in fact a rapper. I have met my burden by showing you championing Cardi B,rather you want to call it backhanded championing or not. I wouldn't be caught dead championing that braud in any fashion,you comprimised 2 years ago and thats why you look clownish 2 years later as she has been exposed as a proud biter,slack jawed ventriliquest dummy. I was able to avoid the hit to my credibility by never cosigning Lauryn Hill as a emcee/rapper,or Cardi B just because I had superior instincts that told me those were other peoples pens. Far as her voice being better than Dej I won't even dignify that with a response.

Goats don't get fooled,you clearly got fooled as you said she had natural skill. Now you are trying to spin your way out of that embarrasemment,my conscience is clean here,I'm dismissing one fraud that is Lauryn and another who is an untalented fraud in Cardi. Two artist from the mecca,goes to show all that "culture" and "bgirl"/"real hiphop" shyt is all Kaiser Soza styled shielding to keep up facades,fooling backpackers like yourself into blindly cosigning east coast artist by proxy to the "Mecca".

I know the ins and outs of the culture region by region,and whats important in each culture region by region,stand down:henbron: