Dej Loaf is the genius Lauryn Hill was advertised as,and will go down as goat female hiphop artist.

[Kasgoinjail]

 

[Lord Mecca]

Dej Loaf the FOAT female hip-hop artist.

 

[Benefited]

There's no way you dont have issues with the opposite sex...No way. My god you seriously dont know how to meet someone halfway huh?

I just explained to you that none of that shyt u are talking about concerning having a team help her is what I think about when listening to Lauryns album. I also explained that Def has yet to make an album/mixtape that I can sit thru. That answered all your questions yet u ignored that to give me "your" way off opinion as to why I disageee with your bullshyt thread title. Its like u wanna be annoying until I agree with you 100%. Life dont work like that homie. When Dej Loaf can make that classic album (and i could give a shyt if she has a team help her or not) then we can return to this convo

I have no issues my woman is righteous and humble. Plus I didn't address you "not thinking about any of that" in my post. My response was about you having a reason for loving that album,that goes deeper than the actual quality of it. Which is the nostalgia that I spoke on in my first post,pointing out your admitted bias just shows you are unable to judge fairly. Basically negating all of your previous opinions,deflections,and protections of Lauryn HIll. That was a dismissal notice,not a continuation of an argument

 

[Cel 510 kid ados forever]

Stop it.

When she winning 6 grammy on one album hit me up

Foh

 

[erker]

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[Benefited]

Dej loaf is rnb breh.

She is a female with rkelly features with rappers style melody singer.

She is no emcee at all.
She is at best a street to wannabe pop song writer. That imo, is on because she wrote the run of big ass rihianna records. Or they used dej loaf steez to make a run of rihianna records.

She is no emcee and is at best an rnb singer. Who they tried to package as this rapper.

She is no rapper and she is no emcee.


I also hope you not trying to use these links to illustrate your point either.

Art Barr

You are completely ignoring her background,influences and the culture of black creatives in Detroit. She is from the home of Motown records and you are pigeonholing her as rnb,just because she is a melodic rapper?She was bound to be melodic. But she has plenty of material where she raps and shows bars and wordplay,but most importantly raps real shyt which is the standard for real Detroit hiphop. Tee Grizzley "My Moment" was full of melody,but nobody mistakes him or calls him the next Gerald Lavert. You are only doing this because Dej is so good on the melodic/rnb side,which like I said check where she's from and its no suprise. Its a compliment to her but very dismissive. She's no different than what Lauryn Hill was,and hiphop fans don't put her in the rnb category. Her voice is just naturally melodic,Try Me wouldn't sound as singy if somebody else did it.

 

[smokeurobinson]

. My response was about you having a reason for loving that album,that goes deeper than the actual quality of it. Which is the nostalgia that I spoke on in my first post,pointing out your admitted bias just shows you are unable to judge fairly.

But thats not the only reason I love the album so you're wrong...Plus u also said that I 100% doubt you are running that album back like that today

And you were wrong again.

 

[beenz]

We will never forget how she came on the scene,one of the most unique intros for a hiphop artist we have ever seen.


Remade a classic jitting song,came harder than Big Sean,Lauren never came harder than male peers of equal,letalong higher calibre.




This song was a anthem for the lovers,not just a cover or remake song like Lauryn made.



Flows
Swag
Voice
Creativity
It gotta be Dej
Save your hate due to nostalgia and just start to pay attention. Ones artistry is completely called into questions due to recent allegations,Dej shape shifting and is a master of many styles and waves.

she's gorgeous, but that's where it stops.

 

[Art Barr]

You are completely ignoring her background,influences and the culture of black creatives in Detroit. She is from the home of Motown records and you are pigeonholing her as rnb,just because she is a melodic rapper?She was bound to be melodic. But she has plenty of material where she raps and shows bars and wordplay,but most importantly raps real shyt which is the standard for real Detroit hiphop. Tee Grizzley "My Moment" was full of melody,but nobody mistakes him or calls him the next Gerald Lavert. You are only doing this because Dej is so good on the melodic/rnb side,which like I said check where she's from and its no suprise. Its a compliment to her but very dismissive. She's no different than what Lauryn Hill was,and hiphop fans don't put her in the rnb category. Her voice is just naturally melodic,Try Me wouldn't sound as singy if somebody else did it.

First off,...
Stop with the whole Detroit scene shyt.
You don't know the difference between rnb and hip hop at all.
Especially to mention their scene and talk to mw like you know it. When I m one of the highest drawing legacy underground artist in the entirety of Detroit to the entirety of whole state of Michigan.

You are trying to mesh them together in this post great recession ideal. Like everything is some legacy based monolith and rnb is not hip hop culture.

Rnb is not a culture. It has no mores norms or anything to it at all. It is a music pop genre coded and b*stardized by companies to the very socalled socially and business irresponsible creators and voice over actors. All cutting each others face for a financial gain. With no scope of anything behind it culturally, socially or economically.
For you to even try to graft this singer like she is an emcee. Is a complete admission you do not know at all wtf you are talembout.



Art Barr

 

[Ripp]

I would say you are in the minority of people who listen to that entire album,most people only ever talk about or remember the singles from that album,which essentially makes Lauryn Hill a singles artist as well. Plus you are comparing someone who had an entire team help her come up with concepts and do much of the work,with Dej who so far no such allegations have been made.

Revisionist history... the entire album was an event. Everyone loved miseducation and bumped it from front to back.. not sure where you are from... there's a reason people still dikk ride her to this day... she put out a classic album and people qish she would've put out a 2nd

 

[Benefited]

First off,...
Stop with the whole Detroit scene shyt.
You don't know the difference between rnb and hip hop at all.
Especially to mention their scene and talk to mw like you know it. When I m one of the highest drawing legacy underground artist in the entirety of Detroit to the entirety of whole state of Michigan.

You are trying to mesh them together in this post great recession ideal. Like everything is some legacy based monolith and rnb is not hip hop culture.

Rnb is not a culture. It has no mores norms or anything to it at all. It is a music pop genre coded and b*stardized by companies to the very socalled socially and business irresponsible creators and voice over actors. All cutting each others face for a financial gain. With no scope of anything behind it culturally, socially or economically.
For you to even try to graft this singer like she is an emcee. Is a complete admission you do not know at all wtf you are talembout.



Art Barr

Hiphop is b*stardized soul,funk for starters,So what are you really saying?and who are you in Detroit before I casually dismiss your bold statement? You said you were the protege to Juice,so you are going to have to do better than that. Matter of fact I'm just going to casually dismiss that so we can move on,no you are not,let me not even pretend to humor you.

RNB is a major influence in hiphop and vice versa. Your favorite hiphop artist got their musical inclination listening to those Motown greats in their parents homes. They just switched it up and put their own spin on it historically. So why would that impact not be even greater for someone who is actually from Detroit. I didn't say she was an emcee,I said she was a rapper. Emcees participate in the sport of emceeing,and are bound by certian rules which I don't believe she does or is. But she does however rap,raps well and should be considered a hiphop artist. Good rnb does have norms,so she definitely should not be classified as rnb. Don't try to put all of your hiphop unwanteds into the rnb category because you don't like the overly melodic nature that is the majority of hiphop today.

 

[kevin arnold]

Now I need to go back and listen to her and Jacquees’ Mixtape

 

[Art Barr]

Hiphop is b*stardized soul,funk for starters,So what are you really saying?and who are you in Detroit before I casually dismiss your bold statement? You said you were the protege to Juice,so you are going to have to do better than that. Matter of fact I'm just going to casually dismiss that so we can move on,no you are not,let me not even pretend to humor you.

RNB is a major influence in hiphop and vice versa. Your favorite hiphop artist got their musical inclination listening to those Motown greats in their parents homes. They just switched it up and put their own spin on it historically. So why would that impact not be even greater for someone who is actually from Detroit. I didn't say she was an emcee,I said she was a rapper. Emcees participate in the sport of emceeing,and are bound by certian rules which I don't believe she does or is. But she does however rap,raps well and should be considered a hiphop artist. Good rnb does have norms,so she definitely should not be classified as rnb. Don't try to put all of your hiphop unwanteds into the rnb category because you don't like the overly melodic nature that is the majority of hiphop today.

Stop.

You really don't know hip hop actual culture at all. That is why you talking from a confused misappropriated place.
Rnb is a pop genre buzzword. to signify internally the main creators and misappropriation based businesses.
a false seat at the artistic table of black blues in America and all history. There has never been a real actual culture around rnb ever. That is the reason why hip hop culture even existed and went through two stages of thought. To deviate it away from rnb entirely. Which spanned everything from visual grassroots to actual sonic application. So the people creating any pieces in any pillar could properly be credited and compensated.
in immediate currency and actual currency as a legacy. Rnb is a buzz word for the large arthouse ripoff and misappropriation of American black blues ..half the reason why I never had many problems on the road was because of the fact I was an actual hip hop culture based artist. Where we have norma and mores for the pillars and theme business derived from them. Rnb has no such framework whatsoever.

Like I said you do not know hiphop culture and do not know wtf you are talembout. Not to mention , you keep trying to make two fraud rnb plant artist into bgirls and emcees and both are not. One is an elaborate abc Disney after school prison industrial economy ruse. Welled in and perverted and a complete fraud. The other is a rnb writer given leeway and a marker to b*stardize hip hop as well. Neither artist is some bgirl for real and neither artist is a part of hip hop culture.

You believe fraud marketing and in that you believe you think you know or experience hiphop. When you have no fukk'n idea wtf hiphop is.


Art Barr

 

[zayk35]

Dej loaf is rnb and not at all an emcee or rapper.

Lauren is a voice over artist, actress and singer.
That we don't know if she really wrote any of her shyt if ever.

Not sure why both are even being compared or mentioned together.



Art Barr

I'm taking your " voice over artist" dig when I'm talking rap with folks

 

[zayk35]

Bruh what. She is basura

I can't get past the stupid name...anything with "loaf" as your name in hip hop is wack