"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[Wargames]

 

[Wargames]

 

[Peter Popoff]

My nicca literally looks like Kingpin.

 

[ISO]

Why Knicks valued Quentin Grimes so highly in Donovan Mitchell trade talks​

What Grimes did in a small sample size during his rookie year can’t be ignored​

From all the reporting surrounding the Donovan Mitchell trade talks, a few salient facts emerged among all the noise. The key dispute was over the amount of unprotected first-round picks New York would send to the Utah Jazz. Outside of that, every Knicks player was available -- except Quentin Grimes.
While there’s a ton to love about the incoming second-year player, this caught many by surprise. The Knicks drew the line at a rookie who averaged six points over half a season and not their newly-extended third overall pick RJ Barrett? In a trade that would net them an All-Star entering his prime?
There are some technical reasons behind his exclusion, like being the most cost-controlled member of the roster heading into the second year of a four-year rookie contract which will pay him roughly $2.2 million this season. But ultimately, it was what he showed on the court that made head coach Tom Thibodeau and others in the front office such staunch defenders of him in negotiations.
Though Grimes o
able they are and Grimes might get overlooked at first. But if what he did in year one is to be believed -- and it’s clear the team top-to-bottom believes it -- maybe there’s a valid reason they didn’t offer him up.

https://sny.tv/articles/why-knicks-valued-quentin-grimes-so-highly

In short Grimes>Barrett

 

[mvp_status]

In short Grimes>Barrett

or in about a year Barrett will be making 10 times what Grimes makes

 

[Peter Popoff]

or in about a year Barrett will be making 10 times what Grimes makes

On a different team if he doesn't play to his value.

 

[mvp_status]

On a different team if he doesn't play to his value.

Would very much prefer that not be the case, because then that would be two toxic contracts we have to unload instead of one

 

[ISO]

or in about a year Barrett will be making 10 times what Grimes makes

From a cost analysis standpoint Grimes>Barrett.

From a skill standpoint Grimes>Barrett.

It’s gonna suck if Barrett doesn’t break out and is taking minutes from a better player and getting paid 10x more too.

 

[Peter Popoff]

From a cost analysis standpoint Grimes>Barrett.

From a skill standpoint Grimes>Barrett.

It’s gonna suck if Barrett doesn’t break out and is taking minutes from a better player and getting paid 10x more too.

I think Grimes and Barrett gonna be starters. Fournier coming off the bench.

 

[ISO]

I think Grimes and Barrett gonna be starters. Fournier coming off the bench.

I hope Grimes and Hartenstein grab the starting spots.

 

[Knicksman20]

I hope Grimes and Hartenstein grab the starting spots.

Is Hartenstein better defensively than Mitch? I don't think he's as good as a shot blocker but he does things on the offensive end better

 

[mvp_status]

From a cost analysis standpoint Grimes>Barrett.

From a skill standpoint Grimes>Barrett.

It’s gonna suck if Barrett doesn’t break out and is taking minutes from a better player and getting paid 10x more too.

If thats how you feel, cool. Lets go with Grimes is a better player. My point is he's probably not untouchable if he was due for an extension like RJ was.

 

[ISO]

Is Hartenstein better defensively than Mitch? I don't think he's as good as a shot blocker but he does things on the offensive end better

His FG% allowed at the rim led the league last season I don't think Robinson was top 10 last season. Hartenstein has foul issues and was a back up big man so his sample size isn't as large as others though. If he can overcome the foul issues and stay on the floor dude can be the best damn player on the team.

 

[PIFF101]

just finished watching that Leon rose interview

We’ve got draft capital and a solid young core with stability. Can’t wait for the season to start. If toxic Randle is still there

 

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