"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[Ironman]

Cam needs an honest shot next season you don't trade a 1st then not use him. He was building chemistry with RJ again and flashed potential. IQ and Obi are untouchable to me there's no star trade right now making us a title contender. The franchise changing players are locked in their deals. Donny is NOT a franchise changer.

 

[Peter Popoff]

We’re in agreement that we only trade Obi or IQ (or both) in a package for a star right? I don’t want to trade IQ and Burks for Brogdon for example. I’d rather just keep IQ.

I'd trade RJ and Randle for a star over them. Grimes could fill RJ shoes.

 

[Ironman]

I'd trade RJ and Randle for a star over them. Grimes could fill RJ shoes.

That's stupid

 

[RickyGQ]

Cam needs an honest shot next season you don't trade a 1st then not use him. He was building chemistry with RJ again and flashed potential. IQ and Obi are untouchable to me there's no star trade right now making us a title contender. The franchise changing players are locked in their deals. Donny is NOT a franchise changer.

Disagree. He literally changed the Jazz franchise around. We gotta stop penalizing guys for not winning championships as if that shyt isn’t hard as fukk. The Jazz as a roster have just reached their ceiling. With the right trade, we could still have a team with a higher ceiling than the Jazz do.

The reason I’m not really sure I want to go all in on Mitchell is that I’m not positive he isn’t peaking already. While he probably can keep up with this output for another 4 seasons, idk what he looks like as a player when the athleticism starts to go.

 

[Ironman]

Disagree. He literally changed the Jazz franchise around. We gotta stop penalizing guys for not winning championships as if that shyt isn’t hard as fukk. The Jazz as a roster have just reached their ceiling. With the right trade, we could still have a team with a higher ceiling than the Jazz do.

The reason I’m not really sure I want to go all in on Mitchell is that I’m not positive he isn’t peaking already. While he probably can keep up with this output for another 4 seasons, idk what he looks like as a player when the athleticism starts to go.

Donny is an undersized chucker who really isn't good at playmaking. It's one of the reasons Jazz aren't doing well there's a lot of lockeroom drama going in. His contract as of right now is insane Utah will try to fleece everyone we have to move him. If he had 2 years or less left I'll hear conversations. The Knicks are still one of the youngest teams in the league our timeline is far different then a lot of current contenders.

 

[storyteller]

 

[Peter Popoff]

That's stupid

Yea ​

 

[RickyGQ]

Donny is an undersized chucker who really isn't good at playmaking. It's one of the reasons Jazz aren't doing well there's a lot of lockeroom drama going in. His contract as of right now is insane Utah will try to fleece everyone we have to move him. If he had 2 years or less left I'll hear conversations. The Knicks are still one of the youngest teams in the league our timeline is far different then a lot of current contenders.

But the timeline is the argument. Not that Mitchell isn’t a good player. He’s a top 12-15 player in the league. There isn’t a single superstar that would make the Knicks contenders by themselves in a trade.

 

[OsO]

Cam needs an honest shot next season you don't trade a 1st then not use him. He was building chemistry with RJ again and flashed potential.

Yea I wanna see what Cam can do with 30 minutes a night. He's gotta stay on the floor though he's always getting hurt.

We’re in agreement that we only trade Obi or IQ (or both) in a package for a star right? I don’t want to trade IQ and Burks for Brogdon for example. I’d rather just keep IQ.

I would trade IQ for Brogdon. IQ played great the second half of the season, but I still don't see him as the long term answer at PG. IQ is great off the bench to mop other second teams, but he's not consistent enough offensively or defensively to start at the point.

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

I don't think he had to put the ball on the floor once for any of his buckets, that's an incredible trait to have in one of your key players.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Yea, ya'll crazy. I wouldn't mess up the chemistry of Toppin and IQ. I'd let Randle bytch his way off the team and rot on the bench behind Taj then fire the coach. I wouldn't let none of those rookies go for an all star. Let them play this game out for the next 2 -3 years, stack up on picks. Let Robinson go and build with Sims. Trade Burke and Randle in a package for a star if I can and if I can't, fukk it.

I know y'all wanna extend RJ for 180 mill so I can't say shyt. Same with Randle that brought the team in the hole its at now but one thing I can say is that IQ, Toppin, McBride, Grimes are hungry. Contract or not, you put an all star around them and they will thrive. When IQ or Toppin gets traded ya'll will regret it. Hope they go to a team I like.

 

[Wargames]

What a wack season this was, not because of the record or the injuries. Just the consistent months long drama and Bullshyt of Thibs and Randle. I’m glad it’s about to be over and hopefully the FO can course correct.

Yes, the youth showed out, but I always assumed the could. The only one who surprised me was Obi, and even that was after months of watching this team and thinking he needed more minutes.

The draft is meh, FA is meh. The FO is going to have to earn their keep and make trades to fix the flaws. I don’t think they trade for a star either. This team is a bunch of baby Knicks and teams don’t trade stars for that unless they are later in their contract.

You know how I know this season has been low key trash. Marc Berman might be the most accurate reporter on this team because the negative shyt he published all season long keeps end up being true.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Can they just waive Randle?

 

[ISO]

We maxing dude?

 

[Peter Popoff]

We maxing dude?

Would you?