DeAndre Ayton gets 25 game suspension

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Wasn't Phoenix's medical staff touted as the best in the league for a long time? Giving old vets new life and whatnot? :jbhmm:

David Griffin hired Aaron Nelson this year (who was one of the top guys on the Suns training staff). Aaron Nelson was one of the training staff members that Grant Hill shouted out during his Hall of Fame speech.
 

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Woj. stated they didn't find any other substances in his system, though. Ayton stated he took something on accident and the NBA front office assumed he was hiding something. That's why the NBAPA got involved.

He tested positive for a banned diuretic that is a masking agent. That's its purpose, to mask other substances that may have been illegal in his system.
In 2019, NBA players have trainers, nutritionists, etc. They are not putting anything random in their bodies like a diuretic on accident.
 

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shyt that may actually be the best benefit.

mans honestly I don’t care if athletes are on PEDs but people have to stop thinking of steroids as the only PED and that they magically just work without putting in work.
Well that's not actually true

There have been studies that show you will lose body fat, and slowly gain lean muscle even if you don't work out while on hgh or testosterone.
 

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Well that's not actually true

There have been studies that show you will lose body fat, and slowly gain lean muscle even if you don't work out while on hgh or testosterone.

Yes you can increase muscle and lose fat compared to a person who isn't training at all and a person just competing natural...

one of the primary benefit of anabolics is the increased recovery and bottom line is PED's are not all the same and not all PEDs are anabolics…..

1. but either way back to the study the group that increased the most actually used and trained.

2. the group that just used did gain muscle and lose fat but not at the rate of the group above

3. the group that was just natural also gained muscle and lowered fat as well



show me this study on HGH because as far as I can tell you only lose bodyfat and have increased chance to increase muscle mass if you are also on anabolics….

Lastly have you ever used any?
 

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I read he was suspended for taking a diuretic. That's like a water pill. What's the big deal in that?

people are assuming since others have used it that he was using it as a masking agent like diuretics also don't work for what they are supposed to do...So people are making assumptions that he was on anabolics even though they didn't find any metabolic metabolites or precursors.
 

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He tested positive for a banned diuretic that is a masking agent. That's its purpose, to mask other substances that may have been illegal in his system.
In 2019, NBA players have trainers, nutritionists, etc. They are not putting anything random in their bodies like a diuretic on accident.
This is also not always true

Tainted supplements do exist
Yes you can increase muscle and lose fat compared to a person who isn't training at all and a person just competing natural...

one of the primary benefit of anabolics is the increased recovery and bottom line is PED's are not all the same and not all PEDs are anabolics…..

1. but either way back to the study the group that increased the most actually used and trained.

2. the group that just used did gain muscle and lose fat but not at the rate of the group above

3. the group that was just natural also gained muscle and lowered fat as well



show me this study on HGH because as far as I can tell you only lose bodyfat and have increased chance to increase muscle mass if you are also on anabolics….

Lastly have you ever used any?

I'm going to have to search for it, it's something I read along time ago.

I have never used any peds, but I got homies who played college football who did. They were already physical beast before the peds tho.

Hgh is probably the only ped I could see my self taking as I got older.
 

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This is also not always true

Tainted supplements do exist


I'm going to have to search for it, it's something I read along time ago.

I have never used any peds, but I got homies who played college football who did. They were already physical beast before the peds tho.

Hgh is probably the only ped I could see my self taking as I got older.


I don't see anything wrong with any of the following testosterone, primobolan, deca durabolin, hgh and peptides basically anything that is human grade that you can be prescribed from a longevity clinic....If a person has been training for a while and get their bloods checked....To me it' s Just like other medications it's pros and cons to it. The fact that it is so criminalized and they allow alcohol and tabacoo and all the other shyt like Aspirin to be sold like its all good.
 
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His roided up ass just injured half the Kings team last night too. I thought the suspension was regarding that:



if he is consistently starting to play D like this he may justify his 1st pick status.
 

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if he is consistently starting to play D like this he may justify his 1st pick status.

dude already justified his 1st pick status by putting up 16pt 10rb on damn near 60% FG while not even having anyone reliable to get him the ball...He has big time potential and his usage rate wasn't as high as some of the other top rooks.
 
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