we'll find out, anything less then 1.5 will be a disappointingProbably canelo
De La Hoya destroys Floyd Mayweather: "Before Golden Boy Promotions, nobody watched your fights!!!!"
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Floyd is easily top 20 all-time on resume alone. And can be considered top 10-15 (shyt maybe even top 5) when you take everything else into account as far as his overall body of work and career achivements. His 0 isn't the primary reasoning behind his greatness. It's just the cherry on top.
And you can nitpick just about anybody's resume to death...outside of a small handful.
For instance...Sugar Ray Robinson...he missed far more fights with HOF'ers/ATG's than Floyd did. But he's supposedly the measure of greatness in the sport?
Floyd only missed Tszyu, and that was because of HBO/Showtime network politics. Both were bogged down with contracts with each network.
I don't even think Tszyu belongs in the hall anyway
but that's beside the point. What other HOF caliber opponents did Floyd miss during his run?Floyd didn't share an era with guys like Charley Burley, Cocoa Kid, Holman Williams, Eddie Booker, Archie Moore, Jack Chase & Bert Lytell and NOT fight em....SRR did though and it's not held as a knock against his legacy missing all those fights with HOF'ers?
Me too.
In order of era, I have it: Sugar Ray Robinson, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Floyd Mayweather Jr
Floyd is easily top 20 all-time on resume alone. And can be considered top 10-15 (shyt maybe even top 5) when you take everything else into account as far as his overall body of work and career achivements. His 0 isn't the primary reasoning behind his greatness. It's just the cherry on top.
And you can nitpick just about anybody's resume to death...outside of a small handful.
For instance...Sugar Ray Robinson...he missed far more fights with HOF'ers/ATG's than Floyd did. But he's supposedly the measure of greatness in the sport?
Floyd only missed Tszyu, and that was because of HBO/Showtime network politics. Both were bogged down with contracts with each network.
I don't even think Tszyu belongs in the hall anyway
Floyd didn't share an era with guys like Charley Burley, Cocoa Kid, Holman Williams, Eddie Booker, Archie Moore, Jack Chase & Bert Lytell and NOT fight em....SRR did though and it's not held as a knock against his legacy missing all those fights with HOF'ers?
As far as Floyd, he did miss a lot of top black fighters who fought in the same weight class as he did, at the very same time he was there, I've given the list before:
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14609188/
We've done this before...black fighters that were ranked in the Top 10 of the division when Floyd fought there:
Stevie Forbes while he was at 130, Stevie Johnston at 135, Vivian Harris and Junior Witter at 140, Cory Spinks/Paul Williams/Joshua Clottey/Andre Berto/Timothy Bradley/Devon Alexander/Shawn Porter/Keith Thurman/Kell Brook at 147, Vernon Forrest/Verno Phillips/James Kirkland/Austin Trout/K-9/Demetrius Andrade at 154.
Floyd just be on histhing.
http://www.thecoli.com/posts/14636300/
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seemorecizzy
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Every fighters misses fighters for reason or another
Its pretty much impossible for him to fight all those guys
Cause if he did, the list would be replaced with some of the guys he actually die fight
None of those guys are hall of famers anyway
seemorecizzy
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Floyd is easily top 20 all-time on resume alone. And can be considered top 10-15 (shyt maybe even top 5) when you take everything else into account as far as his overall body of work and career achivements. His 0 isn't the primary reasoning behind his greatness. It's just the cherry on top.
And you can nitpick just about anybody's resume to death...outside of a small handful.
For instance...Sugar Ray Robinson...he missed far more fights with HOF'ers/ATG's than Floyd did. But he's supposedly the measure of greatness in the sport?
Floyd only missed Tszyu, and that was because of HBO/Showtime network politics. Both were bogged down with contracts with each network.
I don't even think Tszyu belongs in the hall anyway
Floyd didn't share an era with guys like Charley Burley, Cocoa Kid, Holman Williams, Eddie Booker, Archie Moore, Jack Chase & Bert Lytell and NOT fight em....SRR did though and it's not held as a knock against his legacy missing all those fights with HOF'ers?
At the end of the day...it really doesn't matter. Floyd fought who he fought, he COULD'VE faced more top fighters...he didn't, but that doesn't take away from anything if we're being real about it. My point was only to illustrate that there were 25 other Top 10 fighters he could've faced just like he brought up for SRR.
Every fighter misses people, no one fights 100% of the best fighters in their careers. The thing Floyd has going for him, is that he's still beat more Champions in Boxing history than anyone else, has the best plus/minus ratio of anyone else, and was undefeated over 49 fights. No matter how anyone tries to spin that, those will remain facts and that's the reason why Floyd is the best of this era and belongs in the Top 4 imo.
Breh'dren...did you just seriously try to equate Floyd not fighting a bunch of B/C level fighters to SRR missing fights with several HOF'ers/ATG's?
Around the same time SRR had the convenience of signing 6 fights @ Middleweight w/ Jake Lamotta...Moore, Burley & Williams were the top 3 Middleweights in the division. And were THE best Middleweights of that early to mid-40's Middleweight era...they ain't no fukkin' Vivian Harris & Verno Phillips
