De La Hoya destroys Floyd Mayweather: "Before Golden Boy Promotions, nobody watched your fights!!!!"

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an undefeated record panning 19 years while beating 23 world champions, 7 hall of famers without ever being knocked down and showing complete domination for damn near every fight with the GOAT defense means something breh:heh:
floyd will be remembered for that by any level headed boxing fan who can put him emotions to the side and recognize greatness

get that hate out your heart breh:umad::camby:
But you don't think even boxing purists and historians would have liked to see him do more, face other fighters. I could give a fukk about him being undefeated really. That feat alone is a phenomenal feather in anybodys cap though, I won't front. But just like you said, any level headed boxing fan knows a loss wouldn't diminish Floyd greatness much, if at all. He gotta be marketed different, that's all.

Best believe that zero is definitely a marketing tool at this point, not a measuring stick. I mean he fought Berto for his last fight lol.

I'm definitely not mad or hating, dude is a master at his craft, that's what I'll remember him for. Timing, movement, defense, all off the charts.

Jeffs idea that we'll remember Floyd for his undefeated record is kind of a knock on Floyd if you really think about. But then again, TMT prefers to tout numbers, the only things that can't be argued (eg win record, Ppv sales, most money generated, etc.)
 
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But you don't think even boxing purists and historians would have liked to see him do more, face other fighters. I could give a fukk about him being undefeated really. That feat alone is a phenomenal feather in anybodys cap though, I won't front. But just like you said, any level headed boxing fan knows a loss wouldn't diminish Floyd greatness much, if at all. He gotta be marketed different, that's all.

Best believe that zero is definitely a marketing tool at this point, not a measuring stick. I mean he fought Berto for his last fight lol.

I'm definitely not mad or hating, dude is a master at his craft, that's what I'll remember him for. Timing, movement, defense, all off the charts.

Jeffs idea that we'll remember Floyd for his undefeated record is kind of a knock on Floyd if you really think about. But then again, TMT prefers to tout numbers, the only things that can't be argued (eg win record, Ppv sales, most money generated, etc.)

You make zero sense

face other fighters like who, he beat the biggest stars in his era, and the next coming up in Canelo who as you can see has a PPV coming up

this historic shyt you talking about is a myth, no other fighter gets the goal post move and their resume discredited n the most ridiculous ways as Floyd does

you actually saying it's knock on him that his last fight was berto after beating pacquiao

sit your ass down somewhere
 

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You make zero sense

face other fighters like who, he beat the biggest stars in his era, and the next coming up in Canelo who as you can see has a PPV coming up

this historic shyt you talking about is a myth, no other fighter gets the goal post move and their resume discredited n the most ridiculous ways as Floyd does

you actually saying it's knock on him that his last fight was berto after beating pacquiao

sit your ass down somewhere


Ali, Liston, Robinson, LaMotta, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns all have losses on their record. It did nothing to their greatness.

Him being undefeated doesnt make him the greatest and him losing wouldnt have done anything to his legacy.
 

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You make zero sense

face other fighters like who, he beat the biggest stars in his era, and the next coming up in Canelo who as you can see has a PPV coming up

this historic shyt you talking about is a myth, no other fighter gets the goal post move and their resume discredited n the most ridiculous ways as Floyd does

you actually saying it's knock on him that his last fight was berto after beating pacquiao

sit your ass down somewhere

Lol settle down. Where did I say that his resume is bogus? But you really gonna act like there weren't other fights out there that didn't get made? Not saying it's Floyd's fault, just saying they didn't happen. As for Berto, yeah was that not a struggle ppv to just finish out his contract.
 
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Lol settle down. Where did I say that his resume is bogus? But you really gonna act like there weren't other fights out there that didn't get made? Not saying it's Floyd's fault, just saying they didn't happen. As for Berto, yeah was that not a struggle ppv to just finish out his contract.

like what

He beat everybody that mattered, that's it

shyt is ridiculous
 
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Ali, Liston, Robinson, LaMotta, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns all have losses on their record. It did nothing to their greatness.

Him being undefeated doesnt make him the greatest and him losing wouldnt have done anything to his legacy.

Where did I say any of this

Floyd is greatest because his the least hit boxer of all time while having the highest connect percentage

this is the definition of what the sport is about, hit and not be hit

he's the best to do it, period, no matter how you feel about it, history will remember him as such
 

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Where did I say any of this

Floyd is greatest because his the least hit boxer of all time while having the highest connect percentage

this is the definition of what the sport is about, hit and not be hit

he's the best to do it, period, no matter how you feel about it, history will remember him as such

No matter how you feel about it, historians will remember differently. :yeshrug:
 

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No matter how you feel about it, historians will remember differently. :yeshrug:


How will historians see Floyd ? All of you talking about boxing from 50 years ago are clueless. Boxing has changed and it's not cut and dry anymore. Back then fighters had little demands and accepted whatever they could get and face whoever they were forced to. Look at today's boxing model. You got Ward who's an ATG but can't get a damp fight and less popular than even a Jean Pascal. Look at GGG being forced down our throats and people glorifying him as an ATG yet has never faced a champion at 33 years old. Basically we have an ATG here with less than 5 years left on his career but never faced a real champion or taking any risk in his career. Never. Look at how many demands Cotton made for Canelo. Look at KKK asking Ward to cone up but he can't ask GGG to come u . Boxing has evolved and promoters, fighters, investors decide the course of boxing or how we sell a talent. It's not about how historians will view you or how your career will be remembered anymore and you can't say I'm wrong either.

In the ring everybody wanna be Ali or Tyson or a Sugar Ray Robinson but outside the ring nobody wanna be them all cuz boxing was wrongly managed due to the same ideology of how people will view your career then that's when you start making stupid decisions and taking on bad maychups
 

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You obviously don't know to say some mess like that.

I think Floyd is top ten all time but he aint the greatest. Too many weight classes to say something like that.


Agree but saying Floyd is Top 10 is a huge insult. To me he's at least Top 4. People bringing up his opponents are putting their foot in their mouth cuz when you look back no other fighter has outclassed their rival in such a manner. No other boxer had fought so many champions. And of course a lot of those boxers back then we're part time boxers with shaky records lol
 
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