Finally just said fukk it and paid for the service......
Started watching Titans
Started watching Titans
THIS nikka ROBIN 
DC's Titans Thread (First Episode Out)
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Just dropped on Netflix and I'm off today
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Where do you live?Just dropped on Netflix and I'm off today
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6 episodes deep, mostly piff that Jason Todd episode was amazing. This show absolutely redeems Robin's live action persona.
fukk Batman
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This show absolutely redeems Robin's live action persona.
fukk Batman
Eh, he’s irresponsible and/or often trying to pass the responsibility to someone else. Dude spends 90% of the time blaming Batman for all his issues and not taking any accountability himself. Fact of the matter is Bruce did more for him than anyone ever would, could or should. His likeability factor outside of the fighting sequences is pretty low tbh.
Agree with most of this, but it makes an interesting character/journey and the actors (dikk/Jason) fit the parts.
Show wouldn't work as a drama if he was settled as Robin/Nightwing from jump.
From a realistic perspective, taking away the super hero worship factor of most comic stories, I think Robin has a legit beef with Batman and I think going through something like that could and would leave somebody pretty fukked up mentally. True, Bruce did more for him than anyone else, but the deeds of Batman damn near negate all the goodwill and positive equity that Bruce's action's action's build up. Batman's action's, as a parent, which what he is, are the height of irresponsibility.
Let's strip the superhero aspect away and place his action's in a real world type scenario. You've got a parent with a prepubescent child, and he's, say a police officer. And not just any police officer, he's like some elite swat team type nikka, rappelling off buildings, shootouts, the whole 9. He decides to take his 12 year old son, on some bring for child to work day type shyt, out on a mission with him. Now he's worked with the kid at home, taught him how to use firearms, self defense, all that shyt, so he's not helpless. And the kid is extremely game, he's amped to go to work with his dad, see what he does, stop some bad guys. Real life, taking that kid on one assignment, that dad's losing custody of that kid and getting destroyed for being a awful parent, as he should. But let's just say the kid somehow is able to go on multiple missions. Swat dad's got this kid involved in shootouts, heavy drug bust, breaking up sex trafficking rings and all other kinds of fukked up shyt, on a damn near nightly basis. He not supposed to be seeing shyt like that. You don't think that kid would grow up to be pretty fukked up mentally? And would it be the fault of the kid for his fukked up mental makeup when he's 18, 19 or so. That nikka would be dealing with major PTSD among with countless other issues.
As I'm typing this I'm thinking of warlords and their child soldiers. Nobody blames the kids for being indoctrinated by the adults to do some fukked up shyt. Batman's not as extreme, and he gives the kids a better life outside the crime fighting obviously, but he's basically developing little weapons. That's why I like the approach they took with dikk in this. He's old enough to reflect back on what he went through to realize it was pretty fukked up, and it did something to him emotionally. Dude tryna deal, and he's placing a fair amount of blame on Batman, as he should, cause he wasn't old enough and responsible enough to make a life altering decision like that on his own, especially after just going through seeing his parents being murdered in front of him.
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That's the way I was looking at it. Layers to this DC shyt.
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I don't believe Batman is without culpability. His actions are ridiculous to the point of being comical, but its like, Bruce himself is a very damaged individual, that does not justify his actions, but it does explain them somewhat.
Now, does dikk have reason to not be happy with Bruce? Sure he does, but at some point its like, my dude, dikk was bugging out or willing to bug out the moment he found out his parents death was not accidental, and as you say, he is an adult now and capable of reflecting on shyt from an adult point of view, and the truth is Bruce saved his life. He would have gotten himself killed or ended up in the streets of gotham without Bruce. I can't remember which episode it was but dikk has a conversation with one of his old circus friends where the friend says something like "Bruce did right by you didn't he?" and dikk says something like "he did the best he could", so clearly he understands that, and as an adult you gotta get over that teenage angst and take responsibility for your own actions and choices, especially when you were heading towards a dangerous path and someone that had no obligation towards you extended themselves to help you.
Bruce may have damaged dikk but he also gave him a better life overall, he trained, instilled discipline, and gave him a purpose when he could have easily just left him to go get himself murked by a gotham crime family, that has to count for something. So although I appreciate the show taking the route of pointing out and holding Batman responsible for having teenagers on his version of "Training Day", I also expect to not have dikk walking around acting like Batman is the worst thing that could have happened to him and blaming him for everything.
ungrateful nikkas, i don't like
I hear you, but I think referring to what dikk is dealing with as teenage angst is trivializing his experience, and by quite a bit. If Bruce felt so compelled by this kids traumatic experience that he wanted to take him in and raise him, then by all means give the kid the opportunity for a better life. That doesn't give him the agency to put the kid in life threatening situations in a nightly basis. And I get why it happened, cause Bruce is fukked up himself, but it doesn't make it any less og an awful decision on his part. Parent's job is to protect, not endanger. That's some heavy shyt to deal with and I think what we're seeing in dikk is somebody going through the early stages of really starting to deal with that. It's not him being unappreciative, cause I'm sure while he going through it as an adolescent and teenager he was very much enjoying the riches, the training, notoriety, adrenaline rush and everything else that came with being the son of Bruce Wayne and the sidekick of Batman. But now as an adult we're seeing him really reflect on how all of that impacts him. And since we're witnessing the transition of him into coming into his own on this show we're seeing him deal heavily with the other side of it for the first time. We've gotten the happy go lucky, boy wonder version of dikk/Robin in damn near every video iteration before. I like this approach as it seems a little more grounded in reality. I also imagine, if the writing is any good, that we'll witness Robin's growth into Nightwing and see anger easing into somewhat of an understanding of what Bruce did for him. It should become more of a balance of resentment mixed with appreciation as he matures.
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A Pound & A Prayer
I’m 3 episodes in and this is actually really good 
