DC's Titans Thread (First Episode Out)

[kt773]

Doom patrol ending had me like I hate I have to wait a week to see the next episode lol

 

[kt773]

Doom patrol ending had me like I hate I have to wait a week to see the next episode lol

 

[EnzoG]

The last few mins of this episode today tho......

 

[EnzoG]

Is Jason Todd cocky in the comics???

 

[kt773]

This shyt getting better and better each week

 

[Mr. Negative]

Is Jason Todd cocky in the comics???

Gotta remember, this is a kid who got taken in by Batman after trying to steal the tires off the Batmobile.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Is Jason Todd cocky in the comics???

Yup. It’s why fans wanted him killed

Another great episode. Titans is doing the damn thing. Jason showing up was

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Yup. It’s why fans wanted him killed

Another great episode. Titans is doing the damn thing. Jason showing up was

I can finally watch this... I ended up buying a Roku last night .. set up DC universe. so now I can enjoy... was watching JL and YJ last night,, my 6 year old love Shazam now so I was showing him Clash and Misplaced.. I know theres a brave and bold episode there somewhere too

remember I kept saying I refuse to watch tv on a 5" screen

 

[Ironman]

Yup. It’s why fans wanted him killed

Another great episode. Titans is doing the damn thing. Jason showing up was

Only to love him as he returned with big ass .45s and a helmet

 

[hostsamurai]

Yup. It’s why fans wanted him killed

Another great episode. Titans is doing the damn thing. Jason showing up was

Wait, I thought the overwhelming reason he got killed off in the vote was because of that one guy who literally called in to vote thousands of times.

I've always wanted a trilogy with court of owls, hush and red hood. Out of the three Under the red hood has the best emotional arc for the final film, and reaffirms Batman's(assuming a new universe) no killing rule. Though I can't imagine this is possible without Ra's being at least a secondary antagonist in an earlier film.

 

[verbalkint]

Wait, I thought the overwhelming reason he got killed off in the vote was because of that one guy who literally called in to vote thousands of times.

I've always wanted a trilogy with court of owls, hush and red hood. Out of the three Under the red hood has the best emotional arc for the final film, and reaffirms Batman's(assuming a new universe) no killing rule. Though I can't imagine this is possible without Ra's being at least a secondary antagonist in an earlier film.

Him dying won out by a very small margin but yeah dude with the auto-dialer definitely was the deciding factor meaning it was damn near an even split. Even before that Todd had a possible body on him (RIP Felipe). The heel turn was unavoidable.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Wait, I thought the overwhelming reason he got killed off in the vote was because of that one guy who literally called in to vote thousands of times.

I've always wanted a trilogy with court of owls, hush and red hood. Out of the three Under the red hood has the best emotional arc for the final film, and reaffirms Batman's(assuming a new universe) no killing rule. Though I can't imagine this is possible without Ra's being at least a secondary antagonist in an earlier film.

it was that ... but the reason they had the vote to begin with was because of fan backlash,, and instead of being bold they let the fans decide. But it was bold to go through with the outcome. they got backlash for that too .. you cant win and us fans ar to cynical... hate for keeping him, hate for killing him, hate for bringing him back.. you can win

By the time Len Wein took over as editor of DC Comics' Batman titles in 1982, dikk Grayson had largely moved on to starring as the leader of the young superhero team the Teen Titans in DC's New Teen Titans title. However, with the character no longer featured in Batman comics, the disadvantages of telling Batman stories without the character to act as a sounding board for the protagonist became apparent.[6] Jason Todd was created as dikk Grayson's replacement as Robin, and, prior to the continuity revamping of Crisis on Infinite Earths, Todd's origin and physical appearance were similar to that of Grayson. The character debuted in Batman #357 (March 1983) and made his first full appearance in Detective Comics #525 (April 1983), but it wasn't until later that year when he would appear in costume as Robin in Batman #366 (Dec 1983) when he showed up towards the end of the story to help Batman fight the Joker.

Following the 1985 limited series Crisis on Infinite Earths, DC took the opportunity to reboot many of its properties. The character was completely revamped and the new version of the character was not well received by fans. Dennis O'Neil, who took over as Batman editor in 1986, said, "They did hate him. I don't know if it was fan craziness—maybe they saw him as usurping dikk Grayson's position. Some of the mail response indicated that this was at least on some people's minds."[7]

In 1988, Dennis O'Neil suggested that an audience might be attracted to the comics by being offered the opportunity to influence the creative process.[8] Settling on the idea of telephone poll via a 1–900 number, O'Neil had decided due to discussions with DC Comics president Jenette Kahn that the poll should not be wasted on something insignificant. O'Neil settled on using the poll to determine the fate of the second Robin. O'Neil said, "The logical candidate was Jason because we had reason to believe that he wasn't that popular anyway. It was a big enough stunt that we couldn't do it with a minor character."[9] Even though Jason Todd was unpopular with readers, O'Neil could not decide what to do with the character, so he opted to present the choice to the readership.[8]

The vote was set up in the four-part story "A Death in the Family" that was published in Batman #426–429 in 1988. At the end of Batman #427, Jason was beaten by the Joker and left to die in an explosion. The inside back cover of the issue listed two 1–900 numbers that readers could call to vote for the character's death or survival. Within the 36-hour period allotted for voting, the poll received 10,614 votes. The verdict in favor of the character's death won by a slim 72-vote margin of 5,343 votes to 5,271.[10] The following issue, Batman #428, was published featuring Todd's death. Years later, O'Neil said it was possible that hundreds of votes in the "Jason Dies" line came from a single person, adding a large degree of uncertainty to the honesty of results regarding a poll designed to determine the character's popularity. "I heard it was one guy, who programmed his computer to dial the thumbs down number every ninety seconds for eight hours, who made the difference", O'Neil said in a Newsarama interview conducted alongside writer Judd Winick during the "Under The Hood" arc.[11]

O'Neil would later repeat the claim with further specifics: "I heard it was a lawyer who was using a MacIntosh and lived in California—I obviously don't have hard information on this, but I heard someone out there programmed his computer to dial it every couple of minutes, and since there was only about 65 votes that made the difference, if that story is true, that guy, that guy killed Jason Todd!"

Despite the poll results, O'Neil noted, "We did the deed, and we got a blast of hate mail and a blast of negative commentary in the press."[13] A few comics creators voiced their displeasure at the event. Writer/artist Frank Miller, who had worked on Batman: The Dark Knight Returns and Batman: Year One, said, "To me the whole killing of Robin thing was probably the ugliest thing I've seen in comics, and the most cynical."[14] However, DC stood behind the outcome of the poll. O'Neil was quoted on the back cover of A Death in the Family trade paperback collecting the story with Todd's death as saying, "It would be a really sleazy stunt to bring him back."[15] O'Neil would later regret his comment.[16]

 

[hostsamurai]

it was that ... but the reason they had the vote to begin with was because of fan backlash,, and instead of being bold they let the fans decide

Controversy happens all the time. King still has his Batman run up to #100 even though fans hate the wedding debacle. The decision to make cyclops out as a villain after AvX was deeply flawed and hated by all the fans, nobody likes Beast, for good reasons as he violates things that should be left alone and runs off to the avengers afterward. The editors at the time were just straight cowards.

Although we would've never gotten Red Hood. And it's so difficult for former Robins to find an identity post Batman partnership.

 

[Atsym Sknyfs]

Controversy happens all the time. King still has his Batman run up to #100 even though fans hate the wedding debacle. The decision to make cyclops out as a villain after AvX was deeply flawed and hated by all the fans, nobody likes Beast, for good reasons as he violates things that should be left alone and runs off to the avengers afterward. The editors at the time were just straight cowards.

Although we would've never gotten Red Hood. And it's so difficult for former Robins to find an identity post Batman partnership.

tim and Damian were better received than JAson... although MANY people hate Damien .. I look at it as like todays music and etc.... they had Richard for 40 years... they didn't see a new robin as an enhancement or new stories.. they saw it as a replacement and a way to forget about Richard since he joined the titans and became nightwing... but think about it.. not many characters actually grow up, change names and do stuff..

 

[MartyMcFly]

tim and Damian were better received than JAson... although MANY people hate Damien .. I look at it as like todays music and etc.... they had Richard for 40 years... they didn't see a new robin as an enhancement or new stories.. they saw it as a replacement and a way to forget about Richard since he joined the titans and became nightwing... but think about it.. not many characters actually grow up, change names and do stuff..

Yup all of this @hostsamurai thats all of the facts