Dave Ramsay financial guru SUED for $150M!!! Pushing deceptive timeshares on people:wow:fraud::lol:

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I like listening to Ramsey but his credit card stuff is not good if you have discipline also I would never work for him
It seems like everyone on his show has 100% bought into his cult. I don't like his views on credit cards either.

He tries to tell you how shrewd and how great a businessman he is, but the reality is here went bankrupt back in the day trying to sell real estate and rebranded himself as a financial guru.

The majority of his money comes from speaking engagements and the courses he sells just like other fake gurus.
 

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Timeshares :scust:

Stayed at a Wyndham one time and they tried to push that shyt so hard. You would say no and they'd keep rotating in all kinds of different managers to try and convince you to sign up. Eventually got up out of there with my free massage though:myman: Absolutely grimy business.
I did it back in the day for free Disney tickets for my kid in Florida. I was young and broke back then.
 
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Thread title is slightly erroneous

He wasnt selling timeshares. He was endorsing a company who “specialized” in getting people OUT of timeshares. They did little to nothing of the sort, and as such they were considered fraudulent. This lawsuit is about the endorsement, not selling timeshares.

They had a ton of money at their peak…a buddy of mine was their banker :wow:.
 
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Damn, this could be a long-ass post. I'm only going to scratch the surface:


If you listen to Dave Ramsey, then you come to believe that building wealth should be your primary goal in life. I've repeatedly heard him tell callers to forget about EVERY other goal in life and focus on getting their wealth-accumulation in order first. One of Dave Ramsey’s core sayings is "live like no one else, so later you can live like no one else."


This is straight worship of wealth, suggesting the goal of life is to become richer than others and spend that money on yourself. He ignores Biblical commands such as

“Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth…for where your treasure will be, there your heart will be also”

or “the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful”

or “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.”

or “You still lack one thing. Sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

or "Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.”

or “Then he said to them, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; life does not consist in an abundance of possessions.”

or “Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?

or "Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you."

or "So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."


Do you think anyone could listen to Dave Ramsey and get that idea of the meaning of our money?



People who listen to Dave Ramsey want to get rich. They want to have an abundance of possessions. They would never stop thinking about how their money will accumulate tomorrow. They would never "sell everything they have" to follow Jesus instead. So they're straight missing the gospel. If you listen to Dave Ramsey.You don’t get warnings about wealth, you really believe that money can solve your problems and you SHOULD accumulate it if possible. He talks about his own wealth constantly to the point that it sounds like nothing less than bravado. He loves the fact that he has accumulated great wealth and sees zero descrepancy between that and the passages above, not to mention the lifestyle of Jesus and his disciples.
you may not agree but others do

thats life
doesnt mean they are wrong and you are right

me personally?
as a man I believe its of utmost important I have my money right because there is no other way I can take care of those I love

seems like yall have a problem with him because of his beliefs...
but if the subject is getting out of debt who cares what the teacher believes if their money advice is solid?

for the avg person Ramsey is good basic info...

for me?
its not because im more focused on increasing cash flow
 

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you may not agree but others do

thats life
doesnt mean they are wrong and you are right

me personally?
as a man I believe its of utmost important I have my money right because there is no other way I can take care of those I love

seems like yall have a problem with him because of his beliefs...
but if the subject is getting out of debt who cares what the teacher believes if their money advice is solid?

for the avg person Ramsey is good basic info...

for me?
its not because im more focused on increasing cash flow


If you don't care that his advice is anti-Biblical, that's fine.

But nothing you say disputes my point, that he claims his advice is Biblical even while it explicitly contradicts all of the major teachings of Jesus and his disciples on money.
 

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When I first got hip to Ramsay breh, I thought he was on to something. Then the more I listened, It was too much air of superiority and talking down on folk, contradictory statements, and so I found him only to be another form of entertainment when bursting people's bubble with common sense that make for good clips.

Niccas basically the Joe Budden of finance podcasts.
 
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