Daniel Jones had a combined 21TD 17INTs sub 5500 yards < 83% qb rating OVER TWO SEASONS gets 4y/160M deal

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

There is. No connection to Trey. I have said very little about him after he got traded. I did see Daniel Jines getting discussed and decided to look up his stats to get such a deal. They were worse than I thought. There is no way in hell a black QB with equivalent numbers gets that kind of deal or even starts. Oh I get the intangibles and all that other shut he does well that Giants fans are talking about. But a black QB would not get that pass. Not in a million years.

You've been making threads about Trey Lance for weeks now, so you saying little after he got traded doesn't change that notion because people remember said threads and comments you've made about it.

 

[tremonthustler1]

There is. No connection to Trey. I have said very little about him after he got traded. I did see Daniel Jines getting discussed and decided to look up his stats to get such a deal. They were worse than I thought. There is no way in hell a black QB with equivalent numbers gets that kind of deal or even starts. Oh I get the intangibles and all that other shut he does well that Giants fans are talking about. But a black QB would not get that pass. Not in a million years.

Jones didn't get his option picked up prior to the season. The season he had led to the Giants making the playoffs and winning a game in it. He had a lot of shyt go his way so he had them bent over come contract time.

A Black QB absolutely doesn't get that pass but a Black QB also doesn't get that opportunity on the Giants.

 

[Brozay]

There is. No connection to Trey. I have said very little about him after he got traded. I did see Daniel Jines getting discussed and decided to look up his stats to get such a deal. They were worse than I thought. There is no way in hell a black QB with equivalent numbers gets that kind of deal or even starts. Oh I get the intangibles and all that other shut he does well that Giants fans are talking about. But a black QB would not get that pass. Not in a million years.

I dont disagree on the Daniel Jones take, I think I even made a thread about him in the past

 

[JLova]

You've been making threads about Trey Lance for weeks now, so you saying little after he got traded doesn't change that notion because people remember said threads and comments you've made about it.

Move on. This isn’t about Trey. I will make another thread next year and the year after that. Maybe multiple threads this year.

 

[JLova]

Shout out to the Ravens. Had 4 black QBs in the roster. If even half of the teams did this they’d lose fans.

 

[JerseyFinest!]

In the NFL, legit QB's (which he is not) make the receivers. A legit QB will overcome mediocre receivers and make the offense better. If the QB has to be propped up with skill players, he ain't it.



"Pretty pedestrian" is being kind. The guy is a bum. Only good thing I can say about the guy is that his completion % has gone up each year but that correlates to his attempts going down every year except for last year. And completion % in and of itself doesn't speak to accuracy. I've seen it with another Jones - Mac, who is also a bum. He completes easy, risk-free passes and media members and idiot fans lose their minds talmbout how accurate he is. And I don't want the Patriots paying this Jones like Daniel.

To your point about his numbers being good in 1985: profootball-reference, like basketball-reference, has "adjusted passing" to see how these guys compare to their peers in their era. 100 is league average.

His yards per attempt are well below the average every year. His completion percentage has been below the average every year except for last year when he was 12% (not 12 percentage points) above league average. His touchdown percentage has been above league average once - in his rookie year. His pick percentage has improved every year relative to league average to the point where it led the league last year. He gets sacked out above league average rates. He's only had a passer rating above league average once, which, again, came last year.

But because he looks the part with the color, height, arm strength and running ability for today's game, "Danny Dimes," the well below average guy, gets paid and is allotted numerous chances to succeed.

Dude fukk them stats. Just watch the games.

Even with the stats everything has to be viewed in proper context.

The GIANTS have had one of the worst rated O-Line for at least the last 5 years. Last year was the O-Line first time being just average probably since his rookie year.

Daboll slow walked it with him and as his confidence went he put the ball in his to make plays more.

 

[BrehWyatt]

Name the best receiver he’s had since being drafted.

He’s worth the contract he got

Only because that's what the market will bear.

Objectively speaking, no QB is worth that much except for Mahomes.

 

[Rekkapryde]

Shout out to the Ravens. Had 4 black QBs in the roster. If even half of the teams did this they’d lose fans.

If you draft a black QB, get a black QB as the backup. That way the fans aren't screaming for the backup when the starter don't play well and/or that inherent bias doesn't kick in.

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

30 picks is a historic negative. That's more than tough to get over. Someone like Stafford spent a decade putting up big passing numbers and has been slandered for worse.

And since when is Brock vs Bryson a white vs black name?

And Eli had seasons of 25 and 27. Not a whisper of benching him.

 

[b. woods]

If you draft a black QB, get a black QB as the backup. That way the fans aren't screaming for the backup when the starter don't play well and/or that inherent bias doesn't kick in.

The fans will probably (definitely ) have something to say over both the starter and backup being black to begin with.

 

[Ironman]

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Look at who he was throwing to though. Man was throwing to washed rec league receivers thanks to a shyt GM and a shyt HC.

Let's see what he does this year.

 

[YouMadd?]

His best games were against the worst ranked defense in the league.

 

[Shadow King]

And Eli had seasons of 25 and 27. Not a whisper of benching him.

Different era where INTs were higher, but Eli is overrated. That being said, what year of his career was this? Jameis was in Year 5...

 

[JLova]

If you draft a black QB, get a black QB as the backup. That way the fans aren't screaming for the backup when the starter don't play well and/or that inherent bias doesn't kick in.

They may just kill themselves.