Daniel Cormier vs Anderson Silva...

[nineteeneightysix]

Did DC fight like a "f@g"?

The main excuse has been "you try and stand up against Anderson Silva?" But that's OBVIOUSLY bullsh@t...

(1) Chris Weidman stood against Anderson Silva twice, and won...Michael Bisping stood against Anderson Silva and had moments of success...He even knocked down Anderson Silva...

So, DC's excuse is just bullsh@t...He didn't want to fight and took an easy paycheck...There is absolutely nothing wrong with it...Just admit it...

(2) The other excuse was "I want see one of these fans stand in front of Anderson Silva"....That is even more bullsh@t....That is like a surgeon who amputates the wrong limb telling the patient's family "I want to see you go through 10 years of medical school, and then perform a surgery"...

Come on man, you are a professional, you are trained to stand up in front of people in the Octagon and deal with whatever they have to give...

I am not mad at DC for takin an easy paycheck, but his excuses are LAME...If he can't stand in front of Anderson Silva (despite having 15 to 20 lbs over Silva), I the fcuk was he planning on beating Jones?

He has never been able to consistently take Jones down...He has never been able to penetrate Jones reach...So, if he is saying he is not confident in his ability to strike an opponent, then how does he beat Jones?

On top of that, he came in the fight out of shape...

 

[Triangularbirds]

Did DC fight like a "f@g"?

He fought like he usually does, whether people like it or not, it works.

Chris Weidman stood against Anderson Silva twice, and won..

Weidman had his mind set on winning the belt and so he didn't get caught in Anderson's shenanigans, while most fighters do get caught and destroyed. Second time Silva broke his leg.

Michael Bisping stood against Anderson Silva and had moments of success...

Michael Bisping got knocked the fukk out right when the round ended, had it happened a few seconds earlier these moments of success you talk about would never have happened.
I don't think Cormier wanted to be that guy who gets knocked out by a fighter that took the fight on 2 days notice.

(2) The other excuse was "I want see one of these fans stand in front of Anderson Silva"....That is even more bullsh@t....That is like a surgeon who amputates the wrong limb telling the patient's family "I want to see you go through 10 years of medical school, and then perform a surgery"...

Then again, you don't expect trained brain surgeon to perform heart surgery. This isn't boxing, Cormier is a wrestler at heart.

He has never been able to consistently take Jones down...He has never been able to penetrate Jones reach...So, if he is saying he is not confident in his ability to strike an opponent, then how does he beat Jones?

He already fought Jones, he probably had a very solid gameplan for Jones.
He never fought Silva, you need to realise the 2 days notice also affect Cormier's performance, not as much as Silva obviously but still, if he included specific training for Jones in his camp (and he obviously did) it doesn't mean anything when he's not fighting Jones anymore.
The habits, style and skills were all different.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

He fought like he usually does, whether people like it or not, it works.
Weidman had his mind set on winning the belt and so he didn't get caught in Anderson's shenanigans, while most fighters do get caught and destroyed. Second time Silva broke his leg.
Michael Bisping got knocked the fukk out right when the round ended, had it happened a few seconds earlier these moments of success you talk about would never have happened.
I don't think Cormier wanted to be that guy who gets knocked out by a fighter that took the fight on 2 days notice.
Then again, you don't expect trained brain surgeon to perform heart surgery. This isn't boxing, Cormier is a wrestler at heart.
He already fought Jones, he probably had a very solid gameplan for Jones.
He never fought Silva, you need to realise the 2 days notice also affect Cormier's performance, not as much as Silva obviously but still, if he included specific training for Jones in his camp (and he obviously did) it doesn't mean anything when he's not fighting Jones anymore.
The habits, style and skills were all different.

(1) He banged with Jones, Johnson and Gustafson guys that are MUCH bigger than Silva...Nobody was booing those fights because he actually fought...
(2) Weidman beat Silva twice...Quietly easily, and he wasn't afraid to go toe to toe with a FULLY trained Silva...Cormier was afraid to go toe to toe with a untrained Silva 2 months post-major surgery...That's weird...
(3) I expect a general surgeon (MMA) to be able to fight wherever the fight goes (striking or grappling), and I don't expect a professional to tell the fans "why don't you stand in front of Silva" especially when SMALLER guys have already done so...
(4) He wasn't going to win against Jones...He was OVERWEIGHT and out of shape, if he was afraid to bang with Silva, there is just NO WAY he was going to beat Jones...

Dude deserved to get booed, because, in hindsight, it would have been better if he hadn't fought...

 

[Losttribe]

Weidman, will never get full credit for winning against Silva.

DC was being lazy

Jon Jones, would have knocked DC out and that's obvious now.

DC is a fukking wrestler, yet , despite being 20 lbs more.... he couldn't do shyt to Silva on the groud.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Weidman, will never get full credit for winning against Silva.

DC was being lazy

Jon Jones, would have knocked DC out and that's obvious now.

DC is a fukking wrestler, yet , despite being 20 lbs more.... he couldn't do shyt to Silva on the groud.

Also, DC said the change of opponents is what made his weight cut difficult...I don't buy it...Dude had a terrible fight camp...Like I stated in the Official thread, a difficult weight cut is a sign of a bad camp...

We saw what happened to Miesha Tate and Johnny Hendricks...Bad weight cuts are NOT a good look...

 

[BlackAchilles]

Why would you expect him to fight against his strengths?

 

[Saiyajin]

i have never have and never will respect DC so i was no surprised by that fight

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Why would you expect him to fight against his strengths?

I don't watch MMA, come here for the boxing forum...but still the same rule applies IMO, you fight to your strengths and if your opponent can't stop it why would you give in?

That whole fight like a p*ssy thing has plagued Floyd Mayweather almost his whole career, but why would he play into your strengths? The whole fight like a tough guy mantra is only good for moral victories, but having a strategy and executing it, whether it is boring, fan friendly, etc. is about skill.

So quick to jump on Cormier for not fighting Silva in his strength in stand up, but how about getting at Silva for not being able to handle Cormier in the ground game.
I guess fighters or athletes in any sport shouldn't develop their own strengths and should never try to take away their opponents strength.

 

[Master Teacher]

Nobody cared when Chael Sonnen didn't stand and bang with Anderson even though he was pumped with roids.

Cormier fought in a manner he couldn't lose in. He's job is to win not beat up Anderson as much as he can.

I know people want to see to black men try to kill each other and get mad when that's not the result.

Styles make fights, Cormier didn't have to time to prepare for Anderson's skillset so he had to rely on what he does best and get away from what Anderson's does best
it's not that hard to figure out. Same reason why Jones played it safe against OSP because he didn't know what to expect from him, his muscle memory for camp is in tuned for a fight with Cormier who is a whole different.

 

[Primetime]

Nobody cared when Chael Sonnen didn't stand and bang with Anderson even though he was pumped with roids.

Cormier fought in a manner he couldn't lose in. He's job is to win not beat up Anderson as much as he can.

I know people want to see to black men try to kill each other and get mad when that's not the result.

Styles make fights, Cormier didn't have to time to prepare for Anderson's skillset so he had to rely on what he does best and get away from what Anderson's does best
it's not that hard to figure out. Same reason why Jones played it safe against OSP because he didn't know what to expect from him, his muscle memory for camp is in tuned for a fight with Cormier who is a whole different.

Basically. DC could've gone gone blow for blow standing like he did with Jones and Gustafson, but those guys had great take-down defense, so there wasn't much choice in those fights... otherwise he would've grounded them and attempted to maul them like he did Rumble.

Silva is better/more experienced than Rumble when it comes to defending on the ground, but wasn't at the weight class/conditioning where he could avoid the takedowns like JJ and Gus. On the flipside, DC was in a weird spot b/c it was his easiest fight in a while if he simply fought to his strengths like he did vs Rumble.. and Silva knew this too, but the crowd would go from sympathizing with him over the Jones thing, to booing him.

It's pretty much Silva sayin: "ok, you can take me down and win on points tryna maul me for 15 minutes... which is what you should do.. .but the crowd is booin the shyt outta you if you don't let me stand and strike... so, i'ma stand and strike and compete... and you do what you gotta do breh "

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

Out of shape ? DC always looks like that. He's not a "ripped" guy

 

[Box Cutta]

DC was in a real tough spot here, I feel for him.

Yes it was two days notice, but AS is still the GOAT. The fact that he was able to hurt DC at the end of the third is proof enough that DC still had to fight cautiously.

 

[The Infamous]

Weidman, will never get full credit for winning against Silva.

DC was being lazy

Jon Jones, would have knocked DC out and that's obvious now.

DC is a fukking wrestler, yet , despite being 20 lbs more.... he couldn't do shyt to Silva on the groud.

 

[The Infamous]

DC did what he had to do. It was a risky fight for him, he had a lot to lose. He took the path of least resistance and although it was boring, I can't knock him for that.

 

[MIAlien]

Weigh the risk vs the reward. He gets nothing out of standing with Anderson, except the approval of the crowd & viewers...IF he wins that way.

And why is it his job to be entertaining in the octagon? The sport is supposed to be inherently entertaining because of the skill level & danger. So all DC has to do is use the best style to win. The rest is up to the matchmaker(s) and his competition.