damn!!!! Yvette Carnell is going in on Tariq Nasheed!!!! FBA VS ADOS
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David_TheMan
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LOL economic bases were destroyed, why?
They were destroyed because black economic independence posed a very real threat, to the white power structure.
Again, i said the focus of civil rights was originally respect for black americans ability to have self ownership and to have equal protection under the law as whites. That is all. 60s era lost that razor edge focus and moved into white acceptance, it wasn't enough for blacks to be left alone by whites, these folks wanted to make white folks create law that forced whites to accept them in business. That was a critical failure and I don't believe it was a mistake, seeing that now it is being revealed just how heavily whites backed the civil rights activists and their agenda, for their own benefit.
I never said any of the policies you directly listed were self destructive, what I wrote is plain to see. I said plenty of blacks have always stated there are liberal policies that were embraced and accepted that were self destructive.
That said of the policies you list Social Security is unfair to blacks, its nothing more than a transfer of wealth from blacks to whites. Blacks don't live as long as whites, so the money stolen from blacks and put into SS often goes to whites who collect.
The new deal had policies put in place that allowed whites to kick blacks out entirely of federal projects, you understand that right? They had farming programs that would now allow black farmers to participate, they had social insurance programs that blacks were entirely excluded from.
As for self destructive programs, if you must know welfare is a big one. They had "man in the house" rules that incentivized women being single to continue to get government money.
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I want to add this.
The notion that you give away your ability to be independent because whites attack your base, so you should just rely on them, makes no sense to me.
If we are working with people who don't respect rule of law and want to see us crippled, trying to beg or moralize them into letting us in their house seems suicidal. These are still the same people who don't respect rule of law and hate us, why would you want to be closer to them?
If this is the tweet that Tone came after Tariq for, then I disagree with Tone, here.
Tariq saying he agrees with a certain thing said by Trump is different than telling us to go out and vote for him, which I haven't heard him say/tweet, yet.
If this is true, then Tone is in the wrong, IMO.
They covered OZ's at the conference that he failed to attend. If he knew what these zones mean for black he wouldnt have cosigned trump.
Also agreeing with trump about black people having low wealth and cosigning him on OZs are two different things.
Charlie Broadway
Greg Ward Jr. SZN
I guess I don’t really see the big deal in all of this. Maybe I’d care more if I watched these youtubers, argued on their behalf, and either implicitly or explicitly labeled them as some sort of leader. With that said, from my pov it looks like two talking points against ADOS have died over the weekend.
If #ADOS is affiliated with the dnc then what will we all do with the maga accusations? Will folks pivot and get new material or is the plan to continue calling a confirmed democratic org a part of the alt right? Also, Tariq publicly creating this distance is probably a long term win despite the short term inconvenience. Tariq is a big instigator of these diaspora wars online. He‘s obviously a huge lightning rod and folks often equate his messages and material with ADOS. The anti immigrant shyt Tariq is on can’t be put on ADOS anymore.
I do agree with the idea that Tariq is useful in handling the dirty work. Ideally both sides would call a truce and at least not say shyt about the other publicly but that seems like a difficult task with all of the egos being involved.
Lastly skimming thru this thread, some of y’all are gonna have to either shyt or get off the pot. There shouldn’t be no picking sides with “Tariq is right though” or “Yvette and Tone did the right thing” in this thread because all of them failed in this regard. Private convos are taking place publicly because of egos. Some of y’all need to have a come to Jesus moment with yourselves. Are you black folks first or are you a Tariq fan first? Are you black folks first or a Yvette and Tone fan first? Make sure before you hit send on a FBA/ADOS topic that you’re not being a fanboy and that you’re being a positive representative for black Americans seeking reparations.
At the end of the day they’re all replaceable. If you’re being detrimental to the reparations movement by using rhetoric that legitimizes arguments made by anti ADOS folks then you’re replaceable too. It’s not your job to defend these ppl. They have platforms in which they can defend themselves.
If ppl want to talk shyt about them then let em. 99% of the ppl shytting on them don’t respect them or take them seriously. If you’re a fan of these youtubers then count your blessings because ppl like that aren’t a threat to ppl like Tariq, Yvette, or Tone. The folks against FBA/ADOS that you need to worry about are those that actually do respect them enough to take them seriously. It’s that same lack of respect and underestimation that has allowed things to get to this point as it is.
If #ADOS is affiliated with the dnc then what will we all do with the maga accusations? Will folks pivot and get new material or is the plan to continue calling a confirmed democratic org a part of the alt right? Also, Tariq publicly creating this distance is probably a long term win despite the short term inconvenience. Tariq is a big instigator of these diaspora wars online. He‘s obviously a huge lightning rod and folks often equate his messages and material with ADOS. The anti immigrant shyt Tariq is on can’t be put on ADOS anymore.
I do agree with the idea that Tariq is useful in handling the dirty work. Ideally both sides would call a truce and at least not say shyt about the other publicly but that seems like a difficult task with all of the egos being involved.
Lastly skimming thru this thread, some of y’all are gonna have to either shyt or get off the pot. There shouldn’t be no picking sides with “Tariq is right though” or “Yvette and Tone did the right thing” in this thread because all of them failed in this regard. Private convos are taking place publicly because of egos. Some of y’all need to have a come to Jesus moment with yourselves. Are you black folks first or are you a Tariq fan first? Are you black folks first or a Yvette and Tone fan first? Make sure before you hit send on a FBA/ADOS topic that you’re not being a fanboy and that you’re being a positive representative for black Americans seeking reparations.
At the end of the day they’re all replaceable. If you’re being detrimental to the reparations movement by using rhetoric that legitimizes arguments made by anti ADOS folks then you’re replaceable too. It’s not your job to defend these ppl. They have platforms in which they can defend themselves.
If ppl want to talk shyt about them then let em. 99% of the ppl shytting on them don’t respect them or take them seriously. If you’re a fan of these youtubers then count your blessings because ppl like that aren’t a threat to ppl like Tariq, Yvette, or Tone. The folks against FBA/ADOS that you need to worry about are those that actually do respect them enough to take them seriously. It’s that same lack of respect and underestimation that has allowed things to get to this point as it is.
If you look at it at face value, of course it sounds nice. Opportunity zones will destroy black American communities, are you for real? Tariq said “I agree with Trump here” as in his plan for opportunity zones. No nuance, no “hmm, I don’t agree with zones but what do the dems propose?”If this is the tweet that Tone came after Tariq for, then I disagree with Tone, here.
Tariq saying he agrees with a certain thing said by Trump is different than telling us to go out and vote for him, which I haven't heard him say/tweet, yet.
If this is true, then Tone is in the wrong, IMO.
saturn7
Politics is an EXCHANGE!!!
No. But Tariq do a lot of funny style shyt. nikka love to play coy, he'll half endorse Trump and then say he ain't.
When Yvette said Trump is right, she made a video to give it context. Tariq, with his sometimes endorsing not voting and then this message will have people mistakenly believing that we support Trump along with his other inflammatory tweets.
I was talking about him agreeing with Trump on something he said, not the opportunity zone stuff.
OP, I quoted brought up that tweet, and I thought that was that, I didn't know Tariq was going on with these opportunity zones.
Big Boda
My Family Are Not Immigrants.
I will say this though. After that NYTimes article came out I looked at tones twitter and youtube.
That damn article characterized him and Yvette as Insurgents who lead people to Harass politicians. After the article Tone still talking bout "I told you we coming"
"We here now"
Thats the last thing you wanna post after a major article framed you as an Insurgent nikka i snatched ADOS out my social media bio so damn fast
I don't blame Tariq for making it clear on IG live that he not part of no group after they framed shyt like that you have to make it clear because that is a setup for a takedown.
That damn article characterized him and Yvette as Insurgents who lead people to Harass politicians. After the article Tone still talking bout "I told you we coming"
"We here now"
Thats the last thing you wanna post after a major article framed you as an Insurgent nikka i snatched ADOS out my social media bio so damn fast
I don't blame Tariq for making it clear on IG live that he not part of no group after they framed shyt like that you have to make it clear because that is a setup for a takedown.
Yeah, the other person explained it to me, I thought he was agreeing with Trump on some Twitter stuff, honestly.
I didn't know about the opportunity zones.
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MANDE KANG
so Tariq really does wear lipgloss huh?
Meechie confirmed. that shyt be popping.
Meechie confirmed. that shyt be popping.
That NYT article put a target on AODS as a group, and Tone & Yvette are too giddy over the publicity to see the potential backlash from it.
Then they thought they could pull rank over Tariq, and he shut that sh*t down
Then they thought they could pull rank over Tariq, and he shut that sh*t down
I do agree they tried to pull Tariq’s tail a bit. I was thinking to myself, this might go another way Tone/Yvette...chill
Hijo de luna
Superstar
Why are you repeating Tariq's nikkasplaining? When the dominant society decides ADOS is a terrorist group then it will be just that, and it aint nothing you or I can do about it. Paint targets all they want but the debt is still owed.
But where Tariq and his politically inept followers are shooting them selves in the foot is the FBA thing. Tariq outlined FBA isn’t about politics but about culture. So you’re conference is one big cookout...similar to the revolt summit? You was just talking politics and the debt owed etc. but now that you’re mad at Tone and Yvette you pivot to some culture bullshyt to save face? Goofy as fukk. Ados needs politics, we need government just as everyone else. Hiding behind culture won’t save us