Damn which floor is the ground floor in Chongqing, China?
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This is what happens when your country spends money on infrastructure, not on funding wars.
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This is what happens when your country spends money on infrastructure, not on funding wars.
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China builds a train station in 9 hours.
California can’t build a bus shelter with 8 departments.
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To get back ahead we need to understand how far behind we are. China is not merely 10% faster, they are in some respects 100X faster.
@elonmusk agrees, by the way.
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Individual tech founders are competitive with China and often innovate first.
But China is unmatched at cloning, scaling, deploying. And they can innovate in the digital world too. In the physical world, they are just far ahead.
Why? US regulations block physical innovation.
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By the way, that video is from 2018.
Chinese construction has been able to pull off quick-build projects like this since the early 2010s.
There is a technology story here, but the most important thing is policy: namely a state that wants to build.
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More videos.
6/10
This is just cope.
The US was also a democracy back when it was a manufacturing powerhouse.
See Fast · Patrick Collison.
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Consider this:
1950 US: can build
2023 US: can’t build
1950 China: can’t build
2023 China: can build
1950 India: can’t build
2023 India: can build
It isn’t as simple as “communists can build” or “democracies can’t build” or even “modern democracies can’t build.”
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India is genuinely accelerating in the physical world in a way I haven’t seen before.
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No, this is cope.
California exploits millions of migrants by intentionally keeping them in a legal gray zone.
But cheap labor hasn’t made them great at construction.
You actually want expensive labor, which incentivizes automation.
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More cope.
China’s infra is obviously modern and functional in the big cities.
Moreover, the regulation in the US doesn’t ensure safety. Huge amounts of SF is built on liquefaction zones. And SF Transit Center in particular was expensive, slow, and unsafe.
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China builds a train station in 9 hours.
California can’t build a bus shelter with 8 departments.
2/10
To get back ahead we need to understand how far behind we are. China is not merely 10% faster, they are in some respects 100X faster.
@elonmusk agrees, by the way.
3/10
Individual tech founders are competitive with China and often innovate first.
But China is unmatched at cloning, scaling, deploying. And they can innovate in the digital world too. In the physical world, they are just far ahead.
Why? US regulations block physical innovation.
4/10
By the way, that video is from 2018.
Chinese construction has been able to pull off quick-build projects like this since the early 2010s.
There is a technology story here, but the most important thing is policy: namely a state that wants to build.
5/10
More videos.
6/10
This is just cope.
The US was also a democracy back when it was a manufacturing powerhouse.
See Fast · Patrick Collison.
7/10
Consider this:
1950 US: can build
2023 US: can’t build
1950 China: can’t build
2023 China: can build
1950 India: can’t build
2023 India: can build
It isn’t as simple as “communists can build” or “democracies can’t build” or even “modern democracies can’t build.”
8/10
India is genuinely accelerating in the physical world in a way I haven’t seen before.
9/10
No, this is cope.
California exploits millions of migrants by intentionally keeping them in a legal gray zone.
But cheap labor hasn’t made them great at construction.
You actually want expensive labor, which incentivizes automation.
10/10
More cope.
China’s infra is obviously modern and functional in the big cities.
Moreover, the regulation in the US doesn’t ensure safety. Huge amounts of SF is built on liquefaction zones. And SF Transit Center in particular was expensive, slow, and unsafe.
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Sauce Mane
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skokiaan
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I mean they built that wall
Dat communism
Dat communism
This is the good side of having one government. Public projects and development don't become political theatre and sidelined to argue about their merits and really fight over who takes credit.
Infrastructure gets prioritized. Mega projects are a show of the one governments power and legacy. Over here we are seeing the detriments of having political theatre bog down development
MajesticLion
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If there's anywhere on the planet that's going to force people to understand and respect scale, it's that place.
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Yup.
A well-known Physicist said the same thing online and people criticized her for it and being bought by China, but she was speaking the truth: scientific progress gets halted by people on the other side trying to gloryhound and take the credit.
We need to find a way to separate science/engineering from politics.
I'd say it's even deeper than that. The political theater that we see on a daily basis is only a front for the corporations that represent both parties. The main difference between China and the US is that in China, the government controls the corporations and in the US The corporations control the government.
Any large infrastructure project in America is going to have tons of different moneyed interests trying to get their corporation to build the project while also trying to make as much money as possible. Meaning the public work may be done in a shyttier way. In China they can just tell which company to do what and things go a bit more smoothly. If we had better labor protections we could have this being all labor work with Fair contracts and good work, but we are used to handing everything to some corporation and letting them handle most things
-Glad this got upped. I was trying to tell someone about the architecture in China but couldn't remember what this video was called to search for it.
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