Damn: KD to the Warriors; Jimmy Butler and Kuminga to Phoenix

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Dray is not anywhere near Dennis Rodman level talent and we see that not every organization would put up with Dennis regardless of his output.

You literally needed Phil Jackson to swoop in.

Dray isn’t worth the headache and never was outside of placating Steph, which is dumb. Dray turned himself into a way more aggressive Thannis who actually got on the court.

Now that might be shortchanging him but we are not taking about Charles Barkley here.
Say what now?

:mjlol::dead:

I'd like to say when Dray retires, this board will cease to have a player where they completely abandon all logic about, but who am I fooling, you'll just replace him with someone else to be stupid about.
 
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And what damage might that be? Winning 4 championships?

I swear Dray brings out the stupidity on this board like no other.

It's like y'all wanna blame Dray for getting suspended in the 2016 Finals (which of course, he is to blame for), but if he didn't get suspended, the Warriors would've won that series and KD doesn't land in GS, most likely shifting the course of what was to come in the years succeeding that, where the Warriors potentially run it back with Harrison Barnes and he continues to shyt the bed and the squad still only has relatively the same amount of championship success.
:russ: you are the most delusional poster on this site .

Did KD leave because KD draymond yes or no. Keep it simple. You’re so fukking chatty :dead:
 
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:russ: you are the most delusional poster on this site .

Did KD leave because KD draymond yes or no. Keep it simple. You’re so fukking chatty :dead:
No.

If there was no friction between Draymond and KD, he still would've left GS.

Here's a brief list of some of the reasons on why he left:

- winning those two championships didn't feel as fulfilling as he thought it would be (he was still looking to scratch that itch)
- the NBA public devalued what he achieved there because he joined a "superteam"
- he wasn't embraced by the fanbase like he was Steph, Dray or Klay
- he wanted to play with Kyrie
- he didn't like playing in a motion offense.

The wheels were already in motion on his decision to leave before that incident with Dray.

But more to the point - the Warriors won another championship after KD left, so even if you want to blame Dray for KD leaving, they still had success after his departure. Is that the damage you're talking about where they still won without him?

:usure:

KD wouldn't have stayed around in GS after the 2019 Finals, regardless, after tearing his Achilles and Klay tearing his ACL. What possible reason would he have had to stay around in The Bay when it looked like the Warriors' reign was over? He had no loyalty to that franchise to stick around like Steph, Dray and Klay did to weather the storm until they had one last run in 2022.
 
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