Current Affairs: Who Actually Gets to Create Black Pop Culture?

[ogc163]

No he’s making a class reductionist argument. He is burying it in his article and making it for different reasons other than a Marxist would.

Nah, he's not.

 

[Unemployed GM]

Nah, he's not.

From the prospective of a race first person he is making a “class reductionist” argument. He is just using the entertainment industry to do it. I read the article get what he is trying to say and understand that socialists like this kind of stuff. But, I bet if you asked him does a black person’s class matter more than than his race in the USA he would say yes.

Don’t get me wrong “class reductionist” and “race reductionist” terms are really just insults that people throw at each other nowadays so

 

[No1]

From the prospective of a race first person he is making a “class reductionist” argument. He is just using the entertainment industry to do it. I read the article get what he is trying to say and understand that socialists like this kind of stuff. But, I bet if you asked him does a black person’s class matter more than than his race in the USA he would say yes.

Don’t get me wrong “class reductionist” and “race reductionist” terms are really just insults that people throw at each other nowadays so

Nowhere does he imply that class matters more than race. Instead he’s implying that we assume that race is a catch-all that allows one to account for the experiences of various people from different socioeconomic backgrounds. We ask for different images of black people on TV but rarely do we consider if the black person crafting that story had the range and understanding of blackness to do it. That’s why you get shows like dear white peoples that sound like they were drafting using black Twitter quotes. In other words, people with no connection to that type of blackness are taking advantage without in anyway empowering those whose stories they are telling. This isn’t always true but it’s true enough.

 

[mastermind]

Don’t get me wrong “class reductionist” and “race reductionist” terms are really just insults that people throw at each other nowadays so

Then why are you using it?

 

[Unemployed GM]

Then why are you using it?

It was used by an above poster. I not trying to call the dude names but his article is making a class reductionist argument. You got to know what to look for.

Nowhere does he imply that class matters more than race. Instead he’s implying that we assume that race is a catch-all that allows one to account for the experiences of various people from different socioeconomic backgrounds. We ask for different images of black people on TV but rarely do we consider if the black person crafting that story had the range and understanding of blackness to do it. That’s why you get shows like dear white peoples that sound like they were drafting using black Twitter quotes. In other words, people with no connection to that type of blackness are taking advantage without in anyway empowering those whose stories they are telling. This isn’t always true but it’s true enough.

You’re right he was directly saying the above in his article. But reread his paragraph on mass incarceration and his criticism of Ta Nehisi Coates. He doesn’t directly say it but he is implying that class plays bigger role in mass incarceration than white supremacy.

 

[mastermind]

It was used by an above poster. I not trying to call the dude names but his article is making a class reductionist argument. You got to know what to look for.

dis you?

No he’s making a class reductionist argument. He is burying it in his article and making it for different reasons other than a Marxist would.

You right he was directly saying the above in his article. But reread his paragraph on mass incarceration and his criticism Ta Nehisi Coates. He doesn’t directly say it but he is implying that class plays bigger role in mass incarceration than white supremacy.

He is saying both because it is a fact.

Eighty percent of Black people imprisoned in the U.S. hail from poverty, meaning that 8 out of every 10 Black prisoners in the U.S. are harvested from one class of Black Americans: the class that George Floyd belonged to. This also means that the Black middle- and upper- classes combined make up just 20 percent of Black prisoners.

 

[Unemployed GM]

dis you?

Breh I said he is making a class reductionist argument. I’m not calling him an idiot or anything. A lot of black leftists, conservatives and academics are making class reductionist arguments these days. They each have their own reasons.

 

[mastermind]

Breh I said he is making a class reductionist argument. I’m not calling him an idiot or anything. A lot of black leftists, conservatives and academics are making class reductionist arguments these days. They each have their own reasons.

The article is about black people.

People like throwing around "class reductionist" because they don't want to acknowledge poor people, especially poor black people. You are chatting shyte.

 

[Unemployed GM]

The article is about black people.

People like throwing around "class reductionist" because they don't want to acknowledge poor people, especially poor black people. You are chatting shyte.

dis you?




He is saying both because it is a fact.

It’s a fact because Mass Incarnation of poor black people was the easiest way lockup the most black people as quickly as possible. Black people were targeted because they were black.

 

[mastermind]

It’s a fact because Mass Incarnation of poor black people was the easiest way lockup the most black.

Look at what you just wrote and think about what the article is saying.

Now think about your use of class reduction and try and square that with your statements in this thread.

 

[Unemployed GM]

Look at what you just wrote and think about what the article is saying.

Now think about your use of class reduction and try and square that with your statements in this thread.

What I’m saying is mass incarceration was never aimed at an economic class it was aimed at the black community as a whole and it’s application was based on race.

 

[mastermind]

What I’m saying is mass incarceration was never aimed at an economic class it was aimed at the black community as a whole and it’s application was based on race.

If 80% of the black people in prison are poor, then who else could it be targeting? The number is similar for other racial groups too.

This nation has always targeted and victimized lower class people. Being black and poor is a bonus.

affluent black peoples aren’t going to prison at the same rate.

I am from PG County. Police is heavily concentrated inside the beltway in the poorer communities. The further you go away from the beltway, crime drops. And I mean all crime. Fort Washington, Clinton, Surratsville, Chetlhem, Bowie, Mitchelville, and other areas that are heavily black do not have the crime rates. They also don’t have the police presence.

It would be mad disingenuous for black people in those areas to say it’s hard to advance and Russ as a black person when the kids are going to $20,000-30,000 a year private schools.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

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[Formerly Black Trash]

From the prospective of a race first person he is making a “class reductionist” argument. He is just using the entertainment industry to do it. I read the article get what he is trying to say and understand that socialists like this kind of stuff. But, I bet if you asked him does a black person’s class matter more than than his race in the USA he would say yes.

Don’t get me wrong “class reductionist” and “race reductionist” terms are really just insults that people throw at each other nowadays so

You're an idiot

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

From the prospective of a race first person he is making a “class reductionist” argument. He is just using the entertainment industry to do it. I read the article get what he is trying to say and understand that socialists like this kind of stuff. But, I bet if you asked him does a black person’s class matter more than than his race in the USA he would say yes.

Don’t get me wrong “class reductionist” and “race reductionist” terms are really just insults that people throw at each other nowadays so

its worse that he's playing footsie with actual right wing activists and hoping no one notices.