Cripple H claimed he would still be who he is without his marriage. Well..Cornette time

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On the latest Jim Cornette’s Drive-Thru, Jim Cornette discussed Triple H’s recent claim that he thought he’d still be where he is today if he hadn’t married Stephanie McMahon and that he became the “booker” after Cornette and Vince Russo left. The Game made the claims during an interview with Barstool Sports. Cornette was, to say the least, skeptical of the first claim and shared his own perspective of what happened on the creative team, saying that Triple H didn’t begin sitting in on production meetings until after he was done and that he wasn’t involved in creative until later.

It’s worth noting that Triple H didn’t actually say he was the “booker” but instead was asked when he was the booker and proceeded to say “Well, it was Vince and two guys. And the first guy had left, and then Vince Russo left to go to WCW, which turned out to be a great decision. So I just told Vince since he was by himself if he ever needed someone to bounce ideas off…”

You can see highlights from Cornette’s comments and the full video below:

On Triple H saying he thinks he’d be in the same place if he hadn’t married Stephanie:“Yes, during the Attitude Era when Triple H was one of the main event guys, he was — the latter stages of the Attitude Era. The first stage of the Attitude Era, he wasn’t a main event guy. But he was giving Vince ideas like every other top guy did. And he always did take more incentive, you know, he would — Michaels I think wanted to sit in the production meetings so he could figure out who to f**kin’ sabotage later on. Triple H started sitting in the production meetings, et cetera, he was always interested in the business end.

“But to — I think it’s a stretch at minimum that he would be whatever his title is now, Vice President and Executive Assistant Grand Poobah of the WWE, had he not married the boss’ daughter. No matter how much Vince has loved somebody, or no matter how long they have worked there in any position of responsibility, there comes a time when you must go. And I don’t know that that time wouldn’t have come for him had he not been part of the family. So yeah, he was always interested in the business, and he was obviously always a politician, let’s say, that wanted to get involved in the office, but Bryan. [laughs] Could anybody have stayed in that position or a position of power, position of prominence, that long in the WWE and not been fired, except if they were part of the family?”

On Triple H’s claim that he became “booker” after Cornette and Russo left: “When the f**k does he think any of this actually happened? He was — first of all, Triple H was never the f**king booker! Secondly, by the time that Russo and f**king Ferrara — paper carrier — by the time they bailed and went, that’s when he was starting to do the f**king TV writer thing anyway. And then Stephanie became the head of Creative somehow with an assist — with a team of writers assisting her. That he just encapsulated about a f**king three or four year period there, and called himself the booker. Did you ever hear it reported that Triple H was the booker of the WWF? … I don’t know about that whole thing.”

On the Creative team lineup in 1996 through 1998: “No, Triple H wasn’t doing anything … This was ’96 and ’97. Triple H wasn’t doing anything but getting heat all over himself. That was King of the Ring ’86 when he participated in the Curtain Call, and nobody wanted to f**king speak to him for six months or so. And with me it was longer. And Pat was still popping in and out [of Creative], yes. Pat would come to a lot of the writing meetings at Vince’s house. Because he lived there in Connecticut still at that time. He wasn’t, and he was definitely working as the top road agent. At one point it was just me and Bruce. Pat would pop in from time to time. J.R. would pop in from time to time. That was through ’96.

“Early ’97 was when we were saddled with S**tstain [Russo]. And then you know, Bruce was back at the office, and it was me and S**tstain. And then by the end of ’97 I was off, and it was just Vince and S**tstain for a little while. And that’s when they brought the pudgy f**king goof Ferrera. And that was for much of ’98. But I never went to a creative meeting that Triple H was involved in, because he wasn’t involved in any at that point. And he didn’t start sitting in on the production meetings until the Russo-Ferrera era. And then he was not, to my knowledge, in the actual creative meetings, but he was sitting in at the production meetings and trying to take more of an agent-type role. But if he did say all that, it was basically an oversimplification of what he said, or it was an oversimplification of what he did.”

 

[stro]

Idk that he'd be the heir apparent without marrying into the family, but he'd for sure have been a dominant top guy and gone into backstage stuff because he's the most political beast this side of Hogan and was scheming from his first day, kliq'd up, and found himself heavily over pushed to the top spot and title even before any involvement with Stephanie.

HHH went from taking all the heat of the Curtain Call to somehow weaseling his way into sitting in on booking and production meetings by the next year.

 

[Silkk]

 

[StarClout]

Let’s go ahead and speed this up

@Da King

 

[WMG the 2nd]

 

[Da King]

GOAT heel still got the workers worked into a shoot


Before the times of fake heat

 

[Ill-Yaz]

Talk about dropping the axe on your own foot

Thanks for confirming that Hunner Holmes was not behind his own booking and creative decisions

 

[jackswstd]

I think he would’ve done just as well even without marrying Steph. He has classic feuds with Foley, Rock, Austin, HBK among others. You can’t deny his ringwork, promo ability and star quality. He also has a mind for the business. Don’t get me wrong, marrying into the family definitely helped but it’s not the sole reason.

 

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I think he would’ve done just as well even without marrying Steph. He has classic feuds with Foley, Rock, Austin, HBK among others. You can’t deny his ringwork, promo ability and star quality. He also has a mind for the business. Don’t get me wrong, marrying into the family definitely helped but it’s not the sole reason.

I can deny it easily. You see, he was a pretty big failure in 1999. Its hard to quantify that because people forget the dead reactions and him NEEDING the Rock interludes in all those 99 feuds he had but he was a pretty big bust until Foley laid two months str8 in 2000...its not a fib. The guy got no reaction at WM 2000 until they he and Foley jumped the Rock. He's a loser. A overrated loser who blew up because of the wealth of talent he was interacting every week for over 12 months. That was when he left Chyna for Stephanie...around WM 2000...thats how he became who he is. A guy who thought going over all the time meant he was actually the best..that Goldberg type thinking shyt and in the end, fans saw through that shyt after that 2002 return that ended up bombing.

This mind for business? No..thats not true...he's good at interacting with talent and sucking up but he hasn't created classics or had a hit story from his own creation. Come on..Katie Vick..Eugene...Arm wrestling contests...a racist story for WM 19?! LOL.

 

[CM_Burns]

Cornette's probably right, he didnt even cut the smark bait bosses daughter promo I expected. But basically everybody, no matter how successful, gets pushed out by Vince at some point.

 

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I can deny it easily. You see, he was a pretty big failure in 1999. Its hard to quantify that because people forget the dead reactions and him NEEDING the Rock interludes in all those 99 feuds he had but he was a pretty big bust until Foley laid two months str8 in 2000...its not a fib. The guy got no reaction at WM 2000 until they he and Foley jumped the Rock. He's a loser. A overrated loser who blew up because of the wealth of talent he was interacting every week for over 12 months. That was when he left Chyna for Stephanie...around WM 2000...thats how he became who he is. A guy who thought going over all the time meant he was actually the best..that Goldberg type thinking shyt and in the end, fans saw through that shyt after that 2002 return that ended up bombing.

This mind for business? No..thats not true...he's good at interacting with talent and sucking up but he hasn't created classics or had a hit story from his own creation. Come on..Katie Vick..Eugene...Arm wrestling contests...a racist story for WM 19?! LOL.

See here's the thing: That he was such a loser and was getting absolutely no reactions as a main event heel and flopping hard, yet Vince pushed him even HARDER, all the way up to donating his brain cotton personally to get HHH over is evidence that he had wormed his way into the spot already.

 

[Ill-Yaz]

I think he would’ve done just as well even without marrying Steph. He has classic feuds with Foley, Rock, Austin, HBK among others. You can’t deny his ringwork, promo ability and star quality. He also has a mind for the business. Don’t get me wrong, marrying into the family definitely helped but it’s not the sole reason.

Agree with this

 

[Peter Popoff]

I can deny it easily. You see, he was a pretty big failure in 1999. Its hard to quantify that because people forget the dead reactions and him NEEDING the Rock interludes in all those 99 feuds he had but he was a pretty big bust until Foley laid two months str8 in 2000...its not a fib. The guy got no reaction at WM 2000 until they he and Foley jumped the Rock. He's a loser. A overrated loser who blew up because of the wealth of talent he was interacting every week for over 12 months. That was when he left Chyna for Stephanie...around WM 2000...thats how he became who he is. A guy who thought going over all the time meant he was actually the best..that Goldberg type thinking shyt and in the end, fans saw through that shyt after that 2002 return that ended up bombing.

This mind for business? No..thats not true...he's good at interacting with talent and sucking up but he hasn't created classics or had a hit story from his own creation. Come on..Katie Vick..Eugene...Arm wrestling contests...a racist story for WM 19?! LOL.

The thing is Goldberg actually had talent in his prime. He's one of the reasons WCW got big. When Triple K dominated, ratings dropped.

 

[HipHopStan]

In 1998, when HHH's contract was coming up, he entertained the notion of going to WCW when Nash got the book. Can you imagine how that might have changed the wrestling industry had he decided to go work for Ted?

 

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See here's the thing: That he was such a loser and was getting absolutely no reactions as a main event heel and flopping hard, yet Vince pushed him even HARDER, all the way up to donating his brain cotton personally to get HHH over is evidence that he had wormed his way into the spot already.

Sure..thats cool..we've seen that for years now in the aftermath. Cena was a rejected star yet went over anybody and buried all on the mic. Mahal was universal and got a reign..Jack Swagger..Great Khali...Edge and Blandy given a million non drawing terrible title reigns.