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Chris Mauro

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Ahh that's EXACTLY my point! Until someone can explain God you'll be skeptical. But you can't fully explain your position either which should make one equally skeptical, no?

You hit the nail on the head though: Both sides are in the same boat.

No. you're completely off.



That's religion v.s Atheism.



Two Philosophies


That have absolutely nothing to do with science.
 

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Wait a minute. Are you telling me you're the first human being ever to witness evolution? :gladbron:


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Are you telling me you're the first human being who's never seen a person with a genetic defect? Are you the first human being who's never seen certain species adapted to suit the circumstances of their environment? Are you not experiencing time passing?

We've all seen evolution, all day, every day.

If you've ever seen a polar bear, you've experienced evolution.
If you've ever met a diabetic, you've experienced evolution.
 

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Correct


But I am not a scientist and there may be plenty of people more educated than I in the topic who probably have fascinating ideas or how it came to be. It would also be interesting to see if they could created DNA from non living matter. Which could possibly even be inevitable. Human beings are capable of mind blowing things.


This doesn't mean that Religious people's answers are legit or hold any weight.


Regardless of how it started there's plenty of evidence that details what happened AFTER it happened. And anyone who doesn't agree is simply perverse in their understanding.

Breh, read your post to yourself and explain how you are NOT operating on faith. :heh:



You, yourself, admittedly don't know. But you have faith.

There "may" be people with fascinating ideas? That's faith.

It would be interesting to see "if" they "could" create DNA from non living matter. More faith.


What happened "after it" happened? What is this "it"? That's the most important thing the "it" and thus creates the biggest hole in the theory.
 

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macro evolution has been observed.

Macro-evolution observed in the laboratory | Digital Bits Skeptic

no, most things in science are not faith based.

no, i can't explain the origin of the universe or of life on earth. there are plenty of theories for each though.

i'm not deflecting or putting you in a box or whatever emo dweeb feeling you're having. i just know where you're going with that line of questioning.
 

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Are you telling me you're the first human being who's never seen a person with a genetic defect? Are you the first human being who's never seen certain species adapted to suit the circumstances of their environment? Are you not experiencing time passing?

We've all seen evolution, all day, every day.

If you've ever seen a polar bear, you've experienced evolution.
If you've ever met a diabetic, you've experienced evolution.

Seeing a polar bear is evolution? Wow. I thought evolution was a gradual change in a species making a new species. But apparently simply looking at a polar bear is witnessing evolution. :ohhh:
 

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Breh, read your post to yourself and explain how you are NOT operating on faith. :heh:



You, yourself, admittedly don't know. But you have faith.

There "may" be people with fascinating ideas? That's faith.

It would be interesting to see "if" they "could" create DNA from non living matter. More faith.


What happened "after it" happened? What is this it? That's the most important thing the "it" and thus creates the biggest hole in the theory.

That's not faith it's called speculation. I could very well be wrong on all counts. You can't possibly be so dim-witted not to know the difference.


and you're right the "IT" is an important question, unfortunately at the moment science nor religion has a legitimate answer for it.
 

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macro evolution has been observed.

Macro-evolution observed in the laboratory | Digital Bits Skeptic

no, most things in science are not faith based.

no, i can't explain the origin of the universe or of life on earth. there are plenty of theories for each though.

i'm not deflecting or putting you in a box or whatever emo dweeb feeling you're having. i just know where you're going with that line of questioning.

No you don't know where I'm going because what you said was incorrect. And it was incorrect because you based it on a false assumption.

Now to your link... is that natural evolution taking place in a controlled lab environment? :usure:
 

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No you don't know where I'm going because what you said was incorrect. And it was incorrect because you based it on a false assumption.

Now to your link... is that natural evolution taking place in a controlled lab environment? :usure:

religion and science aside.


How do we explain the variation between species without natural selection/evolution?
 

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That's not faith it's called speculation. I could very well be wrong on all counts. You can't possibly be so dim-witted not to know the difference.


and you're right the "IT" is an important question, unfortunately at the moment science nor religion has a legitimate answer for it.

Not faith but speculation? :pachaha:

Come on, breh. What happened to you KNOW because of "overwhelming evidence"? Now your confidence has been reduced to "speculation"? :heh:

Religion does have a legitimate answer for it. There is a force outside of nature responsible. And to be honest, that sounds a lot more convincing than "it's magic". At least religion acknowledges a magician. Scientists will have you believe there is indeed a magic wand, but no one to wield it.



Again, both sides are in the same boat.
 

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religion and science aside.


How do we explain the variation between species without natural selection/evolution?

I already told you I believe in evolution. I'm simply asking how the whole process got started. Where did this first organism come from? We all evolved? Evolved from WHAT?
 

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No. you're completely off.



That's religion v.s Atheism.



Two Philosophies


That have absolutely nothing to do with science.

You can toss religion and atheism in the bushes for right now. Bottom line is NO ONE, theist, atheist, deist, pantheist, agnostic, whatever (that would include EVERYONE, thus making your distinctions irrelevant), can answer that question without sounding absurd to some degree.
 
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